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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Gold. It is so
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good to be here with you. And I love mondays
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because I get to have this show and I necessarily
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cannot see you, but you can see me and you
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can hear me. So welcome. I'm here in my home
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studio with my cat. He is keeping me company, and
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you know it's I hope you all had a good weekend.
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And if you're watching this on a recorded the recorded
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version of this, whatever day it is, I hope you've
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had a great day. And so today's Monday. We just
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had a weekend that I hope you enjoyed yours. For
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those of you that know, you know, and for those
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of you that don't, my new audience members that might
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be listening in for the first time, this is the
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Sound of Gold, and I am the radio show host,
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and our focus is on music, musicians, music venues, music teachers,
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music schools, music composers, and musicology of all kinds. And
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it is my pleasure to represent the sound of Gold
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because I am not only a radio show host, but
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I am also a music teacher and a professional pianel player.
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Today is Monday, as I mentioned, and because it is
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that day and it is the end of our day,
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and whatever day and time you're listening to this, I
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want to just welcome you in and just kind of
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take a couple of minutes to relax if you know,
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as I mentioned, you know, but if you don't, I
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feel like a channel an energy and I play. I
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don't have anything.
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Memorized, So if you take a couple of minutes just
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to relax before I get to introduce an amazing guest
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I have with me today.
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I have been playing piano for over twenty years. Nope,
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I've been playing for over forty five years. I've been
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teaching for over twenty years, and it's a true honor
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to get to love what I do and call that
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work because it's really not work. And as a music teacher,
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as I mentioned, I have the privilege of connecting and
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having friends that our teachers as well. And I have
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a very special guest with me today and he can
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tell you a lot more about what he does with
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his teaching. And I have Jackie Young joining me today
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from pomp Each Atlantic University assistant professor. And Jackie, I
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know you were sitting backstage, please join me. Hi, Lisa, Hi,
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thank you so much for being here today.
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My pleasure. And that was a very beautiful improvisation. I
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already like it.
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Thank you, thank you, and yes, I just kind of
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feel in the moment and I play it out and
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however it sounds. Thank you. I appreciate your kind compliment.
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You play, you play as well, and you play some
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really big con concert pieces, big classical pieces. And what
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is one of your favorite pieces that you'd like to play.
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That's a hard question. It's almost like asking which one
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is your favorite child. So my right now on my fingers,
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I've been playing Rhapsody in Blue lately because it's America
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to fifteen. I think Rhapsody in Blue was celebrating anniversary
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I think last year, and I think that's not the
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most difficult piece, but it has a lot of connection
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with my life. I feel like because you know, it's Rhapsody,
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there's a different episode describing different narratives and stories in life,
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and I just feel a lot of connection to it.
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And there's seriousness, there's beautiful melody, yes, excitement, and the rhythm.
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I think it is almost like, you know, describing a
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life in a short fifteen minutes.
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Oh, I love that, And yes, I guess it is
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a hard question because there's so many and for me
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maybe you can relate too. There are some days where
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I feel a certain way and I'm going to play
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a certain way, where other days I feel differently and
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I'm going to play differently, Like some days you want
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to hear classical and other days you want to hear
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like ac DC rock and roll.
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So exactly.
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Yeah, So I know you because we are on the
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board of mt and A Music Teachers National Association here
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in Florida, and it's been a privilege it continues to
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be a privilege to be on the board with you.
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You do so much. But before we even get to
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that part, Jackie, share with us a little bit about
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your history of music and how how your journey has
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led to you to where you are now.
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Yes, I can give you a sized version of the
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story because I can talk about it all day long.
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My background is a little bit different. If you were
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to have a stereotypical, you know, knowledge of Asian students,
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they would start with four or five right that they
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will go on to lots of competition, that kind of stuff.
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But for me, I actually started fairly late. I only
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started playing piano when I was about fourteen years old.
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I started self taught after going to church, and I
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really like it. One of my friends she introduced, you know,
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some basic technique for me to learn it. I learned
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how to read notes, and I learned them really really fast.
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I practiced a whole lot, and I started accompanying my
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church choir before I started taking my first formal pianel lesson,
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and I got so good at it that the church
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director encouraged me to take a formal panel lesson. But
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I wasn't coming from a very wealthy family, so I
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wasn't able to ask my parents for that. So my
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church director choir director was very kind that the found
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a sponsor for me to pay for my tuition.
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Nice.
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Yeah, I remember the tuition was about sixty dollars, and
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they answered me fifty dollars a month and I would
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use my pocket money to pay for that ten dollars.
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That's why I started. Actually I was turning sixteen that time, okay. Yeah.
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And in Malaysia we use Trinity College London and also
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a br SM, so that's the board zen board system
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that we use over there, and I do it very
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very quickly. The first year, I finished level three with
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high distinction and I actually got ninety nine out of
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one hundred. The only points that I was deducted was
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because of one we're all not in sight reading. Oh yeah.
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And then the following year I took a level of
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five and seven. I also received high distinction and the
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highest score in my city. And then the following year
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I was doing the last year of my high school
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grade eight. That's the highest before going on to diploma
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level okay, and I eventually achieved a licensiate diploma, playing
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some very difficult pieces. And then I was deciding if
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I should go on to you know in college to
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study either medical field or something science or music. I
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only applied to a University of Malaya, the only school
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that I applied for the music program, and I also
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got into some other university too, and I start to
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think about what do I really want to do in
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my life? What is my true calling? Yes, now I
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would foresee myself, you know, doing music in the next
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ten twenty or the rest of my life. So I
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decided to go for music. Yeah, and in Malaysia, the
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public university system undergraduate it's only three years. So I
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finished it three years, and so I was technically applying
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for my master's degree program when I was a junior
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according to the American system. Yeah, so I always feel
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like I'm lacking a lot, you know, I think one
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year less of training. But I was fortunate that I
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got into a program at the University of Tennessee and
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they offered me full tuition scholarship along with graduate assistantship. Yes,
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so that allows me to come to the States to
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begin my you know, American dream. I'm here twenty nineteen,
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and then guess what, twenty twenty. Yes, there is a
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co acdemic, right. It was very hard. I was spending
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most of my time alone in my apartment. But yeah,
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but I get through it, you know, And I was
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applying started to apply for doctoral schools in my second year.
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It was a little bit unusual because everything is online. Yeah, yeah,
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And I decided to go to study with Reed Gainsford
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at Florida State University. Okay, yeah, that's where I did
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my doctoral degree in piano performance. And while I was there,
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I was pretty ambitious too. So the tuition, you know,
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I was al received a graduate assistant that covers my
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tuition and stuff. But I also did three additional certificates
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specialized studies in piano pedagogy, music theory, and on college teaching,
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because I want to make sure myself, you know, unmarketable
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for his college teaching job of course, right, yeah, And
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I think I'm very fortunate and lucky that I applied
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to a different college teaching position in Beach Atlantic University.
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Hire me, and this is I'm mentoring my third year
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teaching here now.
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Wonderful, and so I have a lot of questions for you.
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Now.
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I want to go back now in the United States
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from my training, I started private, taking private lessons when
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I was five, and I grew up with that. And
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I grew up. I had maybe five different music teachers,
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and I think for them quite on me that one
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got sick. But and then you know, life moved on
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and I become an adult and then you find ways
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to connect and learn. So the United States, from my experience,
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is different than Europe. I have family in Europe, and
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my cousin who taught, who was my first teacher was
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my is a piano teacher in her in Italy, and
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so I don't know, but I do know there is
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a sequence. Like you said, there are different segments of
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piano learning that you have to pass in Europe. Is
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that the same in Malaysia? Are there like certain levels
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you have to pass in order to move up?
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Yes? Yeah, So part of the Malaysian history was we
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were colonized by the British, so one of the music
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systems that we were introduced mostly were through London. They
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have several examination board the most famous one would be
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the Associated Board of Royal School of Music. Okay, also
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Trinity College of London, but of course now they're more
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coming in. There are some Australian examination board, and I
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believe the Royal Conservatory of Music is also pretty getting
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more and more prominent. But for the most part, most
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of the students, if they take panel lessons, they will
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go through either the a b RS and or Trinity
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at ZAM in Malaysia.
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Now recently I heard jumping a little bit the S
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A R R or the Yes. They've released the pressure
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of having to pass that it is now more open.
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It doesn't limit the students because I can't explain it well,
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can you share with our audience a little bit more
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about what I'm what I'm hinting to.
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Yes. So the good thing with this examination board system
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is that they're continuously adapting to what the students and
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teachers need. And I remember it was during the pandemic
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where it was challenging for them to send you know,
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a zeminar from the UK to different countries because you know,
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for the obvious reason. They start to do online at
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ZAM and one of the very thing that's difficult to
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evaluate through ZOOM is things like site reading, oral skills
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and technical skills. Right, So they decided to offer an
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option where the students can play four pieces instead of
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three pieces, and one of the additional pieces kind of
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replacing the technical skills, allowing students to focus more on
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the solo pieces. Right. Of course, there's good and bad things, right,
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The thing is that the students get to you know,
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have more solo repertoire that I can use it for
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you know, say audition or competition. And if you look
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at college audition requirement, it usually requires four. Right, so
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we have the Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and the contemporary. Right
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you only have three, then you would have to sacrifice
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one of the period which I think you know, it's okay,
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but we want to mature students have the balanced diet, right, yes, yes, Well,
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on the other other hand, you know, if we take
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that part out of the curriculum, that means we're not
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gonna spend as much time teaching those things like sarating scales.
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They're important for students musical growth. Right. I think it
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depends on how the teachers want to run it. If
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they really want to be ZAM oriented, right, they can
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totally neglect that. But I'm pretty sure most teachers are
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still being you know, honest and accountable. I'm pretty sure
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they still have to teach those things. So this other
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you know, the pros and cons of you know, replacing
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the technical skills with additional solo piece.
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I understand. Now for you share with our audience a
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little bit about your your teaching. You teach at the university,
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you teach privately, how would audiences out there that are listening,
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because those that are watching, they can see the role
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on the bottom of how to connect with you. But
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those that are listening, how could someone want to connect
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How can somebody connect with you to take a lesson
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or to learn from you.
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Yes, So I'm the assistant professor Piano at Pambich Atlantic University.