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Oct. 12, 2026

The Sound of Gold with guest Pam & Dave

The Sound of Gold with guest Pam & Dave
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Season 2

It has been several years, that this amazing duo has been rocking the local stages here in south florida! Tune in too learn about Pam and Dave's musical journey. A journey that has created a popular following. As they continue to make a huge impact to audiences of all ages. Performing at various venues.

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Hi there. Welcome to the Sound of Gold. It is

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so good to be back here with you. Whether you're

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tuning in live broadcasting or I should say on television

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or whether you're tuning into the radio either way, thank

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you for being here with me. And today is presently Monday.

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It's the end of our Monday. And if you're listening

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to this live, I love to play a little Monday

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melody just to kind of like end the day. And

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if you're watching this recorded on another day, no matter

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where you are or what you're doing, sit back, relax.

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Before I introduce my guest for today, and I'm so

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excited to share with you who is here with me,

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before I get there, I just want you to sit

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back and relax and just take a breath. And just

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kind of know that. You're always right where you're supposed

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to be.

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And maybe just take this couple minutes just for you.

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Just to close your eyes and just relax and forget about.

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The day for a minute or two. Thank you. The

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Sound of Gold is my favorite radio show. And of course,

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it's mine. So I'm going to be a little bit particular.

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And if you've been here before, you know, if you're new,

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I want to let you know that our focus is

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on music. It is on music and everything that has

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to do with music venues, musicians, music schools, music teachers.

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Music is all around us, whether we're out walking and

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the birds are singing or the wind is blowing. It's sound,

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it's vibration, it's music. And music is healing. It's healing

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to our soul. And what's even more beautiful is that

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when we go out and about and we get to

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maybe be at a venue, a restaurant or an outdoor event,

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especially here at in South Florida, we are treated by

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musicians that show up and perform for us. And, you know,

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it's not always going to the concert to pay for tickets.

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It's sometimes just going to a restaurant and enjoying, like

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I said, enjoying the entertainment that's there. I am so

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privileged and feel so blessed to know so many wonderful

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musicians in our community here in Florida. And today I

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am especially honored to have my guests on who are

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sitting behind the stage, Ms. Pam and Dave, please join me.

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Hi, nice to meet you.

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Yes, nice to meet you. And Dave, we've seen each

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other at events. Pam, I've seen both of you perform,

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but we've never truly met personally. And it's so nice

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to have both of you on together. I have followed

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both of you and I've seen you perform. over the

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years and you continue to thrive. And you're such an

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inspiration to all musicians and you have such a beautiful reputation.

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Tell us a little bit, choose whoever goes first. Tell

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us a little bit about your journey. Like, how did

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you get to where you are now? What inspired you?

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When did you start? How did you, how did it

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all happen?

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Well, it happened about 2020. 23 years ago?

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Yeah, 2003. 2003 was when Pam and I first met.

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And I have a five-piece band. Excuse me. I have

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a five-piece band, and Dave joined my band.

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Nice.

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I heard him play.

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We probably did two shows together. I heard him play,

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and I was blown away.

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And I'm like, okay, we've got to do something. He's

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just such an amazing guy.

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You know, our band was playing maybe once, twice a month,

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something like that. And so we just decided we'd like

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to do more and we continue to play with the

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band even to this day every once in a while.

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Yes. And I've seen you perform and you guys are amazing. Um, okay.

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Before I have tons of questions, but first off for

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our listeners out there, whether they're watching or just listening,

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we have a scroll as to how to contact you.

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We have the scroll on our screen. And for those

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that are listening, how can our listeners, uh, Find you.

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How can they connect with you if they want to

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hire you or listen to what you play?

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We just happen to have a card here, if I

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can hold it up.

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Pam and Dave.

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There you go. There's a QR code you can scan there,

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and that'll take you right to our website. It's all backwards.

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PamDave.com.

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PamDave.com. That's our website.

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You can go there and see our schedule, see some

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videos and audio clips of us performing live.

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A little bit about our background.

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Yeah, a little bit about our backgrounds.

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So being that we're chatting now, Pam and Dave, I

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want to hear your story too. Pam, when did you

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begin with your journey in music? How old were you?

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Who inspired you?

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Well, I pretty much say that I've been singing all

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my life because I've been singing since I was about

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two years old. My mom would put me and I

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have a twin sister and she put me and my

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twin sister on the stage. And we'd have to recite

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poetry and sing songs at different events and at church.

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And that's been going on since then. It was all

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gospel music and Christian music until I came to the

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United States. And I got into secular music, loved it.

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And the rest is history. It's just been my life.

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I don't know what I'd do without singing.

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Oh, that's beautiful. And Dave, share with us a little

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bit about your background and what... What and who inspired

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you and where you began?

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It's kind of similar.

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I mean, ever since I was a little kid, my

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mom is an accomplished musician, violin player and piano player,

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played organ in church for many years. So I picked

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it up from her and started playing piano when I

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was extremely young. I picked up the guitar in high

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school and started a band, like a rock band in

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high school, doing that. And I was in the jazz

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band at high school, too, playing guitar.

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And then we were getting ready to take a trip

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over to Europe. And a piano player, her parents wouldn't

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let her go. So they asked if anybody else knew

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how to play. So I ended up playing piano. Went

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to London for a week and Paris for a week.

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And then from then, I just played in bands after

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high school. I was living in California at the time.

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We traveled all over the place. Went to Boston and

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went to Berklee College of Music, which was awesome. And

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then moved down here and just been playing in bands

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ever since.

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Do you get to work with Kenny Werner?

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I don't know Kenny Werner. No, I'm sorry.

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All right.

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Maybe I'll message you a link to him. He's written

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several books that you both may be interested in, and

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he teaches there. He teaches at Berkeley.

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Oh, wonderful.

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Okay, cool. It was a while ago that I went.

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That's okay.

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That's okay. We can never stop learning, right? Sure.

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Correct.

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Now, what would you say, not specifically today, but presently,

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what type of music do you find yourself performing most?

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That's the hardest question.

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It really is.

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Because we do a little bit of everything. Okay.

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Etta James, Patsy Clines, Bob Marley, regular music to current

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pop and rock music.

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Ella Langley.

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Bruce Springsteen. You know, everything from the 80s and 90s, hopefully.

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Right up to today.

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I mean, we tried to keep up on the songs

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for today, but not forgetting the songs from back then,

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you know?

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Sure, sure. Admittedly. And, of course, I know, you know,

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it depends on the audience. It depends on the, you know, where,

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the venue, I would assume. Yes, it does.

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It changes.

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It changes from place to place. And then when we

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do private parties, when we do weddings, you know, we

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have to change it up. Dave's very good at reading

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the crowd. I pretty much leave it to him because

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what a lot of people don't know is, which is

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actually fun for me, when we perform, I don't know.

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We don't have set lists.

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Yes we never do the same same thing you know

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we've been doing this for so long but we never

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do the same thing on any given night and dave

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i don't know what he's playing until he starts playing

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the first two minutes and he doesn't tell me she's.

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Pretty good at name that tune i haven't.

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Been asked Sometimes I am guessing right up until I

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have to open my mouth.

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I'm looking at him and I'm saying, Dave, what is it?

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And he's like, he'll just keep playing. He has this

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little grin on his face.

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And then right before I was supposed to sing, then

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it comes out.

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Yes. Oh, I love that. That's so funny. That's so funny. Now,

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for our listeners out there and for our musicians out there,

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whether musicians have been performing for a while or they're

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thinking about performing, I don't know you both well. I

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don't know you well. And so I don't know your life. Yeah.

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But I know for me, I've been teaching music for

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over 20 years and I love playing. And I'm still

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I still have I'm still working my way in the end.

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You know, I'm still progressing.

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And so.

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What I want to share with the audience and what

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I'd like to hear from you both is we have family.

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We have priorities, you know, and then there's the practice time.

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And so how do you juggle it all and, you know,

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make it a blend so it's not a stress?

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It's a piece of cake.

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We play maybe four, six, seven times a week, whatever,

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four at least regularly. I've got a full-time day job.

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I'm a real estate broker during the day.

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Nice.

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I have a couple of kids. I have grandkids all

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over the place. I've got my hands full and I

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try and sleep once in a while.

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I don't know how he does it.

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I don't know how he does it.

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And for me, so I spend a lot of time doing,

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you know, finding songs and things like that.

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But I do a lot, a little online business. That's

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all I do other than singing. Singing is my life.

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Yes.

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So I started this little thing that I do. It's

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called Pamagrammed. And it started during COVID. And during COVID,

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I just learned from so many people that their grandparents

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and parents were stuck.

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In, you know, in their homes and they couldn't see

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each other.

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So they called me up and asked me, would you

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sing a song for my grandmother or whatever? And so

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that's how Pamagrams came about. And I just sing to

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people depending on what they want them to hear.

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Oh, I love that.

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Yes, I still do that every now and then.

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And to both you and Dave, to connect with you,

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let's say to find out more about your Pamagrams or

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Dave about real estate, they can still connect with you

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on pamanddave.com.

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Of course, it's not Pam and Dave, it's just Pam Dave.

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Pam Dave, yes.

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I think somebody already had pamanddave.com and a married couple,

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I think, out in Arizona or something.

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Pam and I, we're not married. We're not married.

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Yes, yes.

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Not to each other, anyway.

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Yes.

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People always think that.

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Mistake that. Yes, yes.

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I think my mom.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry for interrupting, but people will ask how long

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we've been together, and I'll put my arm around Pam's head.

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And I go, oh, you know, 20 some odd years.

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And she goes, no, no, we're not together. He has

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a beautiful wife.

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It's funny that you're saying this because my mom had

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heard you play over in singer Island. And, and so,

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and I go, Oh, they make, you know, they're wonderful together.

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They must practice all the time. You know, they're, you know, they,

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they're such a, a match. And my mom goes, Oh,

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but they're not married. I go, but, but they perform. And,

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and I, and I thought about it and as a performer, yeah,

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you're not always married to who you perform with. So yeah.

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So it was it was. And then I had mentioned

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that to other people that have seen you perform. And

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I'd be like, oh, they're not they're not a couple couple. So,

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you know, people misunderstand or assume. Right. It's that would

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be the best to say.

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But I have to say, I've worked.

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With musicians over my 30 something years of doing this.

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And Dave is absolutely amazing to work with.

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No hassles, no problems, no ego, no.

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He's just amazing to work with.

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Well, and Pam as well. No drama here. We're just

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having fun. Trying to make everybody else happy.

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That's what we always say every time we leave the house.

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Well, he leaves his house.

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We always say that's our intention for everyone to have joy.

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We want to bring joy to everybody. That's wonderful.

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And I wanted to ask, you both have different lifestyles. So,

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What does it take for practice time? Do you put

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in a lot of practice during the week, or is

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that a juggle?

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What is this word? Practice? What is that?

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Honestly, we don't practice a lot. A lot of it

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is we like a song, and we learn it on

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our own, and then we get together on the gig

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and try it out and decide if it's.

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A keeper or not.

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Yes.

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Occasionally, we get together. Very rarely. Maybe four times a year.

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At the most. At the most, yeah.

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That's so funny. I used to, in the past, I

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have my foot in the door with, in the acting world.

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And I used to take some masterclasses and I really,

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I'll never forget that it was said, and I'm not

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going to say it exactly the same way, but when you,

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when you're working with not, I want to say partner,

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when you, when you have a co-actor or a co-musician,

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when you connect and you have that chemistry and, the

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acting is so natural. And so my assumption, because even

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for me as a performer, I prefer to play solo.

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But in a group, you need to have that chemistry

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and you both have that.

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Well, we read each other's mind.

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It's really, it's the strangest thing.

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Sometimes we're playing and I look at him and I go,

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let's do such and such a song, which I don't

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do often. But when I do, it's like, I've already

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got it queued up.

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Oh, that's wonderful.

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It's just amazing.

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But you mentioned acting. I did a masterclass.

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Okay.

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The Burt Reynolds masterclass.

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Oh, yes, yes. Maybe I know you from, maybe we

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met in passing. Probably. Yeah, I was there for many years.

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I did that in the mid-90s.

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Okay.

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I did that, yes. Yeah, it was pretty cool.

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Very nice, very nice. And let me ask you if

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I could, with the here and now, with the way,

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I don't know, I love to think positive and say

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the right thing. And sometimes it doesn't come out the

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right way. But for some musicians today, it's a little

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bit of a challenge to find a gig somewhere or

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to connect or make connections. Pam and Dave, you are

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well known. throughout our community and throughout South Florida. How

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do you keep it going? Do you, do you send

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out demos? Do you go out in person to meet

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different vendors? Do you, what's your secret?

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You know, it's funny at this point, we don't, we

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don't really go looking for it. Thanks. Thanks to the

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little Morris family.

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We've been playing at the food shack every week for,

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I don't know, 15 plus years. We also do leftovers

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every Saturday afternoon for lunch. So between those two, those

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are regular. We do a regular night at Singer Island

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at the Islander on Thursday and a regular night Friday

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night at the Gallery Grill.

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So we have four regular gigs every week.

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And then occasional, like we played McCartney's this last Saturday night,

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and we have people who ask us to come play

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for special events. We don't really have to do what

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we did 20 years ago. 20 years ago, we had

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to go out hunting for We would just go out

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together to places we thought would work and met the

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people and talked to them and I guess gave them

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demos at that point.

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Yes, back then we did. Like you said, we had

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to go looking for work, but now we have a

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lot of, I call them regulars.

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It might be once a year, it might be once

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every five years, but they always come back and we

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love that.

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We get a lot of opportunities. Like you said, we

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have the four regular gigs every week. We're blessed with that.

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People come see us and It's, you know, it's so

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funny as we're talking about this.

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This happened at Poochack. There was a family of four

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that came to see us. And when they came to

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see us 10 years ago or more, 12 years ago,

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the kids, there were little children running around.

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Two years old at the time, but one sister. There's

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two sisters. Two and four.

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And now both of them are singing. And they come

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back every single year. We've watched them grow up.

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Oh, how beautiful.

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And they actually sat in with us a couple times

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this year and last year.

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I love seeing that. We've seen a lot of people.

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Yeah, we've seen a lot of families. A lot of

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kids grow up.

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That's so wonderful. With both of your talent combined, do you,

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have you, and I don't know, have you recorded an album?

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Have you Can somebody go on YouTube to listen to

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your music?

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We've been pretty slack about that, I have to say.

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I mean, we have tons and tons and tons of

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live recordings, but, you know, we're playing other people's music,

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so we don't feel that we, in the past, should

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put it out there, and we're thinking about doing it.

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Yeah, I do have a couple.

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And I'm kind of like you, Lisa, where I sit

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down at the piano, I've probably written a thousand songs

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just like you, it's just I don't remember it, because

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I sit down and improvise and play.

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And Yes.

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And then it's gone.

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I have a couple of.

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Songs that I put out on Spotify under my name,

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Pamela Wyman, and a couple of praise albums, but that's,

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that was a while ago.

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So like Dave saying, I need to get, you need

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to get, get to it.

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Yes. That's, that's beautiful. I love that. And, and Dave,

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thank you for saying what you did. Um, Music is

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so healing. And as a musician myself too, and we're

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musically connected here chatting, I believe as a musician, it's

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such a gift that we give to our audiences because

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it's as if we go to that vulnerable space and

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place within ourselves to express through music. And I just

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think that I said this actually in last week's show.

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I don't, perhaps you saw, I had Tony Solomon on

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my show and I mentioned to him, you know, I

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truly feel like almost, I remember like MTV when it

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first started and I used to watch it all the time.

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And I remember growing up and my parents were like,

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what do you want to be when you grow up?

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And I go, Oh, I want to be a musician.

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I want to be a singer. And they're like, Oh,

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you don't want to do that. There's no money in it. There's,

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you know, and there's, they would talk not positive about

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musicians and, And I truly believe that we are rising

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above like the world needs us. We are the light

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in the life. I agree. No, we, we are that

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healing voice. We are that healing sound. And I truly

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believe that with us continuing to give from our hearts

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and from our souls, because music is soul. And the

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more we continue to put it out there and connect

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with our audiences and I just believe we will rise

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above and we will be, like I said, we will be,

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we already are the healers in the world.

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Well, you know, Pam and I talk about this all

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the time, that our mission here on earth is really

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to do exactly that, share our music with people, make

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them smile and have a good time and get away

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from the humdrum of everyday life and just enjoy.

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Yeah. Yeah. And when we connect with our audiences, we're

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connecting people. Like you said, the rest of the world

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kind of falls away and you get to be present

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and just enjoy the present moments. So today is Monday.

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Can you give us a rundown again about what your

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week looks like? So if listeners out there are in

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town and can come and see you.

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Wednesdays, we play at the Food Shack or Maxi's right

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next to the same restaurant in Jupiter. We play there

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from six till nine every Wednesday. Thursday, we're over on

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Singer Island at the Palm Beach Shores Hotel, the Islander.

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Yes.

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The restaurant inside the hotel. And we're there from 6.30

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till 9.30 every Thursday. Fridays, we play at Gallery Grill.

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That's on Tequesta Drive in Tequesta.

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Yes, yes, exactly.

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Yes, it's fabulous. Fabulous night there every Friday. And then

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Saturday afternoon, we play at Leftovers.

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In Jupiter, and that's 12.30 to 3.30 every Saturday. And

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then we have different places that we play some Saturdays,

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which we put on.

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Our website, camdave.com.

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Wonderful, wonderful. Is your sister, does she still sing? Is

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she local?

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No, she's in London.

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Okay.

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She's still in England. All my family are in England.

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She and her husband are ministers.

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They have a church.

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And she does sing. Yeah. My sister's family, my twin

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sister's family is so musical.

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It's crazy. That's beautiful. Yeah.

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So musical.

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All of them.

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She comes over once in a while and she'll get

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up and sing with us.

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Nice.

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And it's the weirdest thing. It's like stereo pan.

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Oh, I love that.

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That's awesome.

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That's so beautiful.

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You know, another thing about our Friday nights at Gallery Grilled,

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We do something a little different there that we don't

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really do anywhere else.

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We invite some of our friends to come up and

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play with us.

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And my grandson, Jane, is 13 years old.

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He actually gets up and plays tenor sax with us.

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So good.

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Oh, nice.

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My granddaughter is nine years old. And Quinn, she'll get

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up and sing like a Taylor Swift song.

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She's the next Taylor Swift. That's what I say.

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It definitely runs throughout all of my children.

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That's awesome. Well, I'll have to mention it to my husband.

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Maybe we'll come out. On a Friday night, come listen

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to you guys.

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You should.

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Yeah, it'll be good to see you.

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Yeah, yeah. So for our listeners out there that are

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in the music world or just whether they're starting or

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they've been involved in it, what would be your advice

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for getting gigs? Don't do it.

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There's no money in it. There's no future.

475
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.019
That's what my dad said.

476
00:25:22.069 --> 00:25:25.029
If it's in you, just do it. Don't hang around.

477
00:25:25.089 --> 00:25:26.890
Don't wait for anything. Just go do it.

478
00:25:27.309 --> 00:25:27.490
Yes.

479
00:25:27.529 --> 00:25:29.890
Find a place. Find a place to go sing.

480
00:25:29.910 --> 00:25:33.589
There's a lot of open mic nights and things like that.

481
00:25:33.650 --> 00:25:36.690
Just find a place and just get involved. Meet people,

482
00:25:36.769 --> 00:25:39.450
other musicians. But don't hold back.

483
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:40.299
Just go and do it.

484
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:40.880
Yes.

485
00:25:41.420 --> 00:25:43.500
Because music is a universal language.

486
00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:44.480
Yes, it is.

487
00:25:44.500 --> 00:25:48.279
It doesn't matter what you're feeling, where you are in life,

488
00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:52.880
what language you speak. Music touches you. It works, you know?

489
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:57.380
It does work. It does work. And I don't know,

490
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.240
you've been around, you've been performing for a long while.

491
00:26:00.339 --> 00:26:04.769
So I'm saying this for our listeners out there, you know,

492
00:26:05.210 --> 00:26:08.190
it's not, and Dave, you, you work and Pam, you

493
00:26:08.230 --> 00:26:11.349
have a little side gig as well. And, you know,

494
00:26:11.410 --> 00:26:14.750
I want to let our musicians out there, newer musicians

495
00:26:16.089 --> 00:26:20.880
that are maybe just getting involved, or learning, you know,

496
00:26:20.980 --> 00:26:23.720
it's not, how would I say, even if I get

497
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.680
an opportunity to perform, it, you know, it pays a

498
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:31.200
bill maybe, or it buys the groceries for the week,

499
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:35.480
you know, so it's not, I know I was raised

500
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:38.960
with like, okay, have a career and, you know, you

501
00:26:39.460 --> 00:26:42.380
earn money that way, but this is a totally different,

502
00:26:42.529 --> 00:26:45.849
completely different world when it comes to musicians, because it's

503
00:26:45.910 --> 00:26:48.619
not Yes, you have the, like, for instance, you have

504
00:26:48.660 --> 00:26:52.079
the four events that you do a week and that's

505
00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:55.559
consistent and it's a blessing to have that, but not

506
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.609
all of us get that. And so you can't go

507
00:26:59.710 --> 00:27:02.230
into this business thinking, oh, I'm going to, you know,

508
00:27:02.789 --> 00:27:05.569
make a career of it just from the beginning. You

509
00:27:05.609 --> 00:27:08.390
have to kind of like work your way into it.

510
00:27:08.970 --> 00:27:10.569
And yeah.

511
00:27:11.289 --> 00:27:11.950
Yeah, you do.

512
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.680
You have to work your way to, you're absolutely right.

513
00:27:16.140 --> 00:27:17.839
it's not going.

514
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.029
To make you mega, mega rich, unless you are Kayla Swift.

515
00:27:23.849 --> 00:27:26.269
But yeah, it's gig work.

516
00:27:26.329 --> 00:27:29.230
We've been really fortunate that we have the four jobs,

517
00:27:29.269 --> 00:27:32.670
but that's not normal. That's not the norm.

518
00:27:32.690 --> 00:27:34.829
A lot of people have gigs from week to week,

519
00:27:35.130 --> 00:27:37.670
different things they're doing from month to month.

520
00:27:38.170 --> 00:27:40.170
So, you know, that's something that you do.

521
00:27:40.170 --> 00:27:43.650
Yeah, we've been very lucky having the regular weekly gig,

522
00:27:43.670 --> 00:27:43.849
I guess.

523
00:27:44.309 --> 00:27:46.230
Cause that's just not normal around here.

524
00:27:46.529 --> 00:27:49.869
Right. And I have, I mean, I don't know how

525
00:27:49.890 --> 00:27:54.380
much I shouldn't say. I have family that's, that works

526
00:27:54.460 --> 00:27:58.579
with like the Taylor Swifts and, and that, that, that status.

527
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.759
And as much as they love being a part of that,

528
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:05.839
it's also, cause I I've known through the great vine

529
00:28:05.859 --> 00:28:09.640
of family, you know, it's also, it's a job when it's,

530
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.569
when it's, you know, you're working with a band and,

531
00:28:13.170 --> 00:28:16.190
and you're performing and it's so much joy, but it's also,

532
00:28:16.630 --> 00:28:19.029
I'm saying this for our listeners out there, like we

533
00:28:19.089 --> 00:28:22.099
put in the work, right. We show up, we perform,

534
00:28:22.339 --> 00:28:25.079
but we're putting in the work. It's not like this,

535
00:28:25.380 --> 00:28:29.099
like putting groceries in the bag or putting gasoline in

536
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.440
the car. It's yeah. There's a lot of work that

537
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.750
goes into it. Our emotions, right. We put into it

538
00:28:36.930 --> 00:28:39.630
and the time that we take away from our families,

539
00:28:39.890 --> 00:28:44.250
because we all have families, um, And so I'm not

540
00:28:44.269 --> 00:28:46.839
going to use the word sacrifice because it's a choice.

541
00:28:47.420 --> 00:28:49.119
Well, it's like the old joke about how do you

542
00:28:49.140 --> 00:28:51.099
become a millionaire playing music?

543
00:28:51.500 --> 00:28:55.420
Start out as a billionaire.

544
00:28:55.460 --> 00:28:58.940
True, yes. That's so funny.

545
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:04.049
I mean, Dave, honestly, Dave does a lot. He really does.

546
00:29:04.170 --> 00:29:06.609
I mean, we don't have a roadie yet.

547
00:29:08.450 --> 00:29:12.529
Well sometimes sometimes that's true okay my grandson but he.

548
00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:14.470
Does so much he turns up you know an hour

549
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:16.539
and a half for the gig and he does all

550
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.180
the heavy lifting and he i watch him sometimes and

551
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.259
i'm amazed he's he's away from his family an hour

552
00:29:22.299 --> 00:29:24.259
and a half before the gig then we do the

553
00:29:24.299 --> 00:29:26.799
three four hour gig and then we then he has

554
00:29:26.819 --> 00:29:31.480
to pack up and then he gets home Whereas it's

555
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:32.059
not easy.

556
00:29:32.059 --> 00:29:35.460
He works during, before, during and after. And I come

557
00:29:35.460 --> 00:29:37.470
in and yeah, I have, I don't, might not have

558
00:29:37.490 --> 00:29:39.380
a lot, but it's still stuff, but not much. I

559
00:29:39.390 --> 00:29:41.019
put it in the microphone stand, you know.

560
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:43.299
I do a little stuff and then I go home

561
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:45.700
and I sometimes, I don't know how he does it.

562
00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:48.440
I mean, I don't like to use the word sacrifice,

563
00:29:48.460 --> 00:29:50.720
but it kind of is. I'm so grateful to his

564
00:29:50.779 --> 00:29:53.660
wife and his family for allowing him to, you know.

565
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:57.259
Be away from them. But it's, it is work, but it's,

566
00:29:58.940 --> 00:30:01.769
It's fun work. I tell people I love my job.

567
00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:03.109
I love it, right?

568
00:30:03.250 --> 00:30:06.680
That's why we're still doing it. Because we do love it.

569
00:30:07.130 --> 00:30:09.930
And it's not a job. It's a joy.

570
00:30:10.470 --> 00:30:14.490
It's a joy. Yes, it's a joy. Absolutely.

571
00:30:15.269 --> 00:30:19.369
And I can relate because I can feel like when

572
00:30:19.410 --> 00:30:25.019
the audience is just so connected to your performance, it

573
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.609
just brings so much joy that it It almost makes

574
00:30:28.630 --> 00:30:30.089
the performance even better.

575
00:30:31.849 --> 00:30:32.230
Yes.

576
00:30:32.329 --> 00:30:34.009
Sorry, go ahead. No, no, please.

577
00:30:34.269 --> 00:30:36.710
No, I was saying it's, you know, we've got a

578
00:30:36.730 --> 00:30:38.799
really good following. We've been doing it for a few

579
00:30:38.819 --> 00:30:43.119
years and we've got a really nice following. And some

580
00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:45.519
of the people that we see, we see them regularly,

581
00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:48.559
two times, three times a week sometimes. And other times

582
00:30:48.619 --> 00:30:50.789
it's once a year because they go away and come back.

583
00:30:51.289 --> 00:30:53.650
And as much as they show us so much love

584
00:30:53.670 --> 00:30:55.309
and as much as they love to see us.

585
00:30:55.329 --> 00:30:56.789
We love to see them.

586
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:58.059
We really do.

587
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:00.460
We love to see each and every person and we

588
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.519
like to go out and talk to them and see

589
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:03.319
how they're doing.

590
00:31:03.420 --> 00:31:06.710
And it's, it really is just a wonderful time.

591
00:31:06.809 --> 00:31:07.150
It is.

592
00:31:07.230 --> 00:31:09.690
It's almost like we have a family.

593
00:31:09.829 --> 00:31:11.930
Yeah. Everybody. We really do.

594
00:31:12.450 --> 00:31:17.950
It's true. Even, um, uh, I teach, I teach piano.

595
00:31:18.369 --> 00:31:20.490
I teach music theory and the students that have been

596
00:31:20.529 --> 00:31:24.019
with me for years, the students and the families, whether

597
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:28.279
I have adult students, I have children, um, students as well,

598
00:31:28.579 --> 00:31:31.779
but it's almost as though, yes, you build the relationship

599
00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:36.380
and they become part of your, your family in a sense.

600
00:31:37.980 --> 00:31:41.890
I think at church they called it framily or like

601
00:31:41.950 --> 00:31:43.049
the work family.

602
00:31:43.069 --> 00:31:44.930
Yeah.

603
00:31:45.069 --> 00:31:48.990
So it was just, but yeah, it's just, it's beautiful.

604
00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:52.789
And one more time for those listeners that might be

605
00:31:52.849 --> 00:31:55.890
just tuning in and that are not seeing us, but listening,

606
00:31:56.740 --> 00:32:00.599
Please tell us again how to contact you to book

607
00:32:00.619 --> 00:32:01.920
a gig or book an event.

608
00:32:02.500 --> 00:32:04.539
Well, there's two ways. You can go to our website,

609
00:32:04.900 --> 00:32:07.220
just pamdave.com. Is it all right to give out my

610
00:32:07.259 --> 00:32:08.660
phone number? Yes, sure.

611
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.329
You can always call us, 561-262-5212. And, yeah, if you

612
00:32:12.380 --> 00:32:16.150
want us to come play for you, give us a shout.

613
00:32:16.410 --> 00:32:16.829
Either way.

614
00:32:17.430 --> 00:32:20.430
Where do you see, like, the next five years going?

615
00:32:20.509 --> 00:32:24.670
Do you think you'll just still be doing what works now,

616
00:32:24.829 --> 00:32:30.130
or do you have– aspirations that you might be stepping

617
00:32:30.369 --> 00:32:33.390
out of the box to do more? Or is that

618
00:32:33.430 --> 00:32:34.750
something you're not ready to share?

619
00:32:35.150 --> 00:32:37.829
No, I mean, we're talking about sharing a lot of

620
00:32:37.890 --> 00:32:40.410
our live recordings so people can actually hear it when

621
00:32:40.430 --> 00:32:41.789
they're not coming to see us as well.

622
00:32:42.250 --> 00:32:42.690
Okay.

623
00:32:43.029 --> 00:32:45.829
And, you know, I did tell Pam that when I

624
00:32:45.849 --> 00:32:48.430
turn 150, I want to back off to like two

625
00:32:48.490 --> 00:32:49.369
nights a week.

626
00:32:51.109 --> 00:32:52.779
Oh, that's so funny.

627
00:32:53.579 --> 00:32:54.380
I'm going to hold it too.

628
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:56.799
I did want to also say as well that we

629
00:32:57.019 --> 00:33:00.460
do private parties as well, especially in the season.

630
00:33:00.940 --> 00:33:01.640
That helps out.

631
00:33:02.099 --> 00:33:02.619
It really does.

632
00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:04.579
We have lots of fun and people get to invite

633
00:33:04.619 --> 00:33:05.960
us to their homes to perform for them.

634
00:33:06.259 --> 00:33:06.500
Yes.

635
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.859
Get to know people personally, real personally then.

636
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.069
But, yeah, I hope that we can do this as

637
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:14.190
long as we can.

638
00:33:14.309 --> 00:33:15.990
Yeah, that's our goal.

639
00:33:17.049 --> 00:33:18.269
And it works.

640
00:33:18.309 --> 00:33:19.049
Yeah. Yeah.

641
00:33:19.450 --> 00:33:22.069
Put smiles on people's faces and they put smiles on ours.

642
00:33:22.089 --> 00:33:22.569
Right?

643
00:33:22.589 --> 00:33:24.400
Right. And you know who just came out to see

644
00:33:24.460 --> 00:33:25.140
us last week?

645
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:25.960
No.

646
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.359
My mother came to see us over at Gallery Grill.

647
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:30.279
Okay.

648
00:33:30.380 --> 00:33:33.380
And she just turned 96. Oh, wow.

649
00:33:33.460 --> 00:33:35.960
She's where I got everything. She gave me the music

650
00:33:35.980 --> 00:33:38.740
through our blood, through training me, through all of that.

651
00:33:38.769 --> 00:33:41.130
I just wanted to put a shout out to mom.

652
00:33:41.490 --> 00:33:42.049
Yeah.

653
00:33:42.230 --> 00:33:43.349
Come here, mom.

654
00:33:44.390 --> 00:33:45.910
And is mom still playing?

655
00:33:46.609 --> 00:33:47.990
Yeah, she still plays piano.

656
00:33:48.029 --> 00:33:50.009
I don't think she really picks up a violin anymore,

657
00:33:50.049 --> 00:33:51.410
but maybe once in a few minutes.

658
00:33:51.609 --> 00:33:54.680
I think she might be watching. Hi, Mom. Hi, Mom.

659
00:33:56.809 --> 00:34:00.809
And just to, I don't know, maybe another inspiration, I

660
00:34:00.849 --> 00:34:04.490
have a piano student who she will be 96 on

661
00:34:04.529 --> 00:34:06.069
November 2nd. Fantastic.

662
00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:07.730
A piano student.

663
00:34:07.769 --> 00:34:13.909
Yes. And she plays a lot of the ballads and

664
00:34:13.969 --> 00:34:18.639
the fake books. But she's good, and she's so funny.

665
00:34:18.900 --> 00:34:20.019
She makes me laugh.

666
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:20.519
Yeah.

667
00:34:22.469 --> 00:34:23.610
I bet she has some stories.

668
00:34:24.550 --> 00:34:26.860
Oh, I bet. I bet. And I have a, I

669
00:34:26.900 --> 00:34:29.699
have a recital coming up. There's a new Steinway store

670
00:34:30.059 --> 00:34:32.079
in West Palm beach. So I have a recital for

671
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:35.019
my students coming up in November. And I said to her,

672
00:34:35.500 --> 00:34:37.659
I said, I would love to have you come and perform.

673
00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:40.539
And she goes, Oh, I just don't do those anymore.

674
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.159
She goes, I've done them. She goes, I'm over it.

675
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:48.179
I said, okay. I just didn't want to leave you out.

676
00:34:48.380 --> 00:34:50.860
I just want to give you the opportunity. So, so

677
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.280
God bless your mom and, how wonderful it must've been

678
00:34:54.320 --> 00:35:01.059
having her watch you perform. And that's so beautiful. Let

679
00:35:01.099 --> 00:35:05.800
me ask you, do you have any tips or tricks

680
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.239
that you'd like to share with our audiences that are,

681
00:35:08.260 --> 00:35:11.719
I know you kind of did already, but it's not

682
00:35:11.909 --> 00:35:16.789
easy to always find gigs and to, to get to

683
00:35:16.849 --> 00:35:21.489
be on stage and to have the confidence and, you

684
00:35:21.570 --> 00:35:24.829
obviously just show up and perform. And I understand that

685
00:35:25.329 --> 00:35:28.530
I don't have a problem showing up and performing, but

686
00:35:28.570 --> 00:35:34.199
has there ever been maybe from looking back in the

687
00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:38.340
beginning with confidence and standing on the stage and performing,

688
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:41.449
or how did you set that aside?

689
00:35:41.469 --> 00:35:45.329
I guess is what I'm saying. That's an interesting question.

690
00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:48.429
You know, since we've been doing it both so small.

691
00:35:48.949 --> 00:35:52.610
That it's like, you know, I guess we just don't

692
00:35:52.630 --> 00:35:54.710
think about this part of who we are, you know?

693
00:35:54.889 --> 00:35:55.190
Yes.

694
00:35:56.070 --> 00:35:57.820
And it's hard, hard for me to think of how

695
00:35:57.860 --> 00:35:59.340
to give a tip, how to get over that. If

696
00:35:59.380 --> 00:36:01.719
you have like stage fright or something like that, I

697
00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:03.900
tease her about it. What do you have.

698
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:11.340
Stage fright, ma'am? But no, I don't really have any tips.

699
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.079
I think I already gave it as far as, you know,

700
00:36:13.820 --> 00:36:16.159
if you want, I always say this, I say, I

701
00:36:16.469 --> 00:36:17.139
don't care.

702
00:36:18.139 --> 00:36:21.440
How your voice sounds. If you want to sing, sing.

703
00:36:22.019 --> 00:36:25.139
Just do it. Be the loudest voice until someone tells

704
00:36:25.179 --> 00:36:26.369
you to stop singing.

705
00:36:26.630 --> 00:36:27.710
No, that's good advice.

706
00:36:27.750 --> 00:36:29.130
Yeah, just be the loudest voice.

707
00:36:29.170 --> 00:36:29.610
Just sing.

708
00:36:29.650 --> 00:36:32.670
Don't let anybody stop you. Don't let anything stop you.

709
00:36:33.570 --> 00:36:35.510
I have five.

710
00:36:35.329 --> 00:36:38.929
Sisters, four sisters, I'm sorry, four sisters and two brothers.

711
00:36:39.420 --> 00:36:43.360
And I have one sister that her voice wasn't like

712
00:36:43.420 --> 00:36:47.010
everybody else, a little different. And we would be singing

713
00:36:47.050 --> 00:36:49.969
in church and, you know, she'd be singing quietly and

714
00:36:50.090 --> 00:36:50.889
I would nudge her.

715
00:36:50.809 --> 00:36:53.789
And say, sing, sing as loud as you can.

716
00:36:54.070 --> 00:36:56.869
So now, even now, if I'm sitting in the car

717
00:36:56.889 --> 00:36:59.630
with her, she'll be singing away to the radio loud

718
00:36:59.690 --> 00:37:00.710
and I just let her sing.

719
00:37:00.750 --> 00:37:05.349
I'm not going to stop. So she's happy. Imagine if

720
00:37:05.389 --> 00:37:08.690
somebody kept telling her, don't sing, you sound awful. I mean,

721
00:37:08.710 --> 00:37:13.389
you know, she probably would be a different person now. So, yeah, I.

722
00:37:13.329 --> 00:37:18.530
Say that to, I think Dave's, um, granddaughter might be watching, Quinn,

723
00:37:18.570 --> 00:37:21.320
she's nine, and she has a beautiful voice.

724
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:25.570
She has amazing stage presence. I say, girls, sing. Do

725
00:37:25.670 --> 00:37:27.550
your thing. Let everybody know you.

726
00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:33.570
Yes. And, you know, we get so or so many

727
00:37:33.849 --> 00:37:37.329
out there get very caught up in and worried about

728
00:37:37.829 --> 00:37:40.650
what the others might think of them. But I try

729
00:37:40.690 --> 00:37:43.349
and for me and for my students, I should say,

730
00:37:43.429 --> 00:37:46.530
I try and encourage them to say, they're here to,

731
00:37:47.110 --> 00:37:50.920
because they appreciate and they want to hear what you

732
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:58.199
have to say or sing or perform. And so I try,

733
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.039
you know, I don't know how to say this right,

734
00:38:00.099 --> 00:38:05.010
but it's not so much about, it's almost like getting

735
00:38:05.070 --> 00:38:10.030
over being shy and being shy, being heavy with a

736
00:38:10.090 --> 00:38:12.730
stage fright. Like some of my students have a stage

737
00:38:12.789 --> 00:38:15.630
fright and, I don't know if it's so much about

738
00:38:16.130 --> 00:38:20.269
the stage fright other than like we're all big children.

739
00:38:20.670 --> 00:38:23.469
We're always afraid of in some way of being rejected

740
00:38:23.949 --> 00:38:28.360
in some in some form. And so I have I

741
00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:31.019
have a cat and she's 16 and she's just being

742
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.599
very squirmy. So if you see something moving in the background,

743
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:36.059
it's just her being. And I had my other cat

744
00:38:36.099 --> 00:38:39.039
here as well. So I'm in my home music studio.

745
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.559
And so the cats live here, too. And so sometimes

746
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.849
they they want to be part of the show. but

747
00:38:46.269 --> 00:38:49.510
you know, for my, for the audiences out there, like

748
00:38:49.530 --> 00:38:53.869
Pam said, just, just show up and be yourself and

749
00:38:54.409 --> 00:38:55.409
don't be afraid.

750
00:38:55.429 --> 00:38:57.940
Like, yeah, don't be afraid.

751
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.539
And something I just like to say to the audience

752
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.840
out there is, you know, as.

753
00:39:04.780 --> 00:39:06.820
Musicians, we do rely on you.

754
00:39:07.059 --> 00:39:09.719
We do rely on the audience in a lot of places.

755
00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:12.989
And that's kind of how we keep our jobs. So

756
00:39:13.030 --> 00:39:15.269
we'd love to see you, not just to keep our job.

757
00:39:15.289 --> 00:39:18.690
We really, truly would love to see you, you know,

758
00:39:18.750 --> 00:39:20.000
somewhere out and about.

759
00:39:20.019 --> 00:39:26.489
Yes. Yeah. And there's and it's it's the energy. It's

760
00:39:26.570 --> 00:39:28.469
the connection. And yeah.

761
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.059
Definitely the connection. I do feel, I feel we have

762
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.900
a nice connection with our, with our audience.

763
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.659
Most definitely. Most definitely.

764
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:38.969
Yeah.

765
00:39:38.989 --> 00:39:40.809
We try and get out and get to know them

766
00:39:40.889 --> 00:39:41.349
as well.

767
00:39:41.590 --> 00:39:44.090
Well, you know what's nice is that when people come out,

768
00:39:44.110 --> 00:39:46.949
I don't know if it's because we're out all the time,

769
00:39:47.429 --> 00:39:48.789
you know, we feel a connection.

770
00:39:48.849 --> 00:39:52.349
And then if you're a newbie, you're single, if you've

771
00:39:52.489 --> 00:39:52.989
never been.

772
00:39:52.989 --> 00:39:56.409
Out on your own, everybody starts talking to everybody and

773
00:39:56.489 --> 00:39:57.730
everybody gets to know each other.

774
00:39:57.750 --> 00:39:59.989
And they, next time you see them, wave to them,

775
00:40:00.250 --> 00:40:00.829
say hi.

776
00:40:00.889 --> 00:40:03.309
And I just love to see that as I'm singing,

777
00:40:03.849 --> 00:40:06.590
I have this whole story going on that I see

778
00:40:06.630 --> 00:40:07.690
going on around the room.

779
00:40:08.690 --> 00:40:11.429
We see that and we both see it. And it's like,

780
00:40:11.449 --> 00:40:13.300
look at that. Oh, look how sweet that is. And

781
00:40:13.380 --> 00:40:18.119
remember them all. We've got so many, um, First date

782
00:40:18.460 --> 00:40:22.280
when we were on the engagement wedding. We were singing.

783
00:40:22.300 --> 00:40:23.159
So cool.

784
00:40:23.539 --> 00:40:25.989
You know, Pam came up with a phrase that we

785
00:40:26.139 --> 00:40:29.090
use at the bottom of our emails and stuff that says,

786
00:40:29.110 --> 00:40:29.969
never know.

787
00:40:30.449 --> 00:40:30.840
What is it?

788
00:40:30.929 --> 00:40:32.570
You never know who you might meet.

789
00:40:32.610 --> 00:40:34.289
Never know who you might meet. And it's true.

790
00:40:34.610 --> 00:40:35.590
That's so true.

791
00:40:35.929 --> 00:40:37.030
That's so true.

792
00:40:37.489 --> 00:40:39.650
You never know who you might meet. And you just

793
00:40:39.710 --> 00:40:41.949
never know who people are. And you never know who

794
00:40:41.989 --> 00:40:47.239
knows who. Yeah, you know, we... In some ways, I

795
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.500
don't know, maybe I'm just speaking for myself. We live

796
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.420
in like a small world in our mind. But then

797
00:40:52.460 --> 00:40:54.219
when we go out and about and we get to

798
00:40:54.260 --> 00:40:59.699
connect with other people, just like yourselves and other people

799
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.280
that are out, they want to connect with you and

800
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.960
me just as much. And sometimes we get, as I said,

801
00:41:08.219 --> 00:41:10.079
kind of caught up in our own world, like we're

802
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.340
afraid to relate or make a connection or have a

803
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.780
conversation with somebody new. when that new person wants, wants

804
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.429
that just as much as you do. And we forget.

805
00:41:22.889 --> 00:41:23.909
Yep, exactly.

806
00:41:24.409 --> 00:41:28.150
So we have a couple minutes left and I want

807
00:41:28.190 --> 00:41:30.269
to thank you both so much for making the time

808
00:41:30.329 --> 00:41:33.590
today to be on the show. And you're such an

809
00:41:33.730 --> 00:41:39.079
inspiration and you continue to thrive and, and continue to,

810
00:41:39.500 --> 00:41:45.239
your reputation is so strong and, And no matter where

811
00:41:45.300 --> 00:41:49.530
you go, you leave such a legacy for all musicians

812
00:41:49.710 --> 00:41:54.090
because you continue to just thrive. And I thank you

813
00:41:54.150 --> 00:41:58.170
both for being such an inspiration, even to me. You're

814
00:41:58.250 --> 00:41:58.889
so talented.

815
00:41:59.219 --> 00:42:01.500
Thank you so much for having us and for all

816
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:02.260
the kind words.

817
00:42:02.300 --> 00:42:05.699
Thank you. Thank you so much. That's really uplifting. Thank you.

818
00:42:06.219 --> 00:42:10.820
Yes, yes. And it's... It's just such a pleasure to

819
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.800
be connected with you and to get to hear you

820
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:19.260
perform and to get to see that you are, you know, you,

821
00:42:19.739 --> 00:42:22.190
I know you say, you know, specifically practice, but every

822
00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:26.570
time you're on stage, it's like 10,000 practices anyway.

823
00:42:27.010 --> 00:42:31.530
Exactly. My band used to joke about the R word

824
00:42:31.750 --> 00:42:32.389
for rehearsal.

825
00:42:35.179 --> 00:42:36.619
But it is because we do.

826
00:42:36.659 --> 00:42:39.780
We use it sometimes as rehearsal and then eventually we'll

827
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:41.400
get it right after a few years maybe.

828
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.659
Oh, you're so funny. You're so funny. Well, thank you

829
00:42:47.699 --> 00:42:52.420
so much, Pam and Dave. And we will connect and

830
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.380
we will stay connected. And as I mentioned, we will

831
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.619
try and get out to see you on a Friday night.

832
00:42:58.139 --> 00:42:59.340
And that would be fun.

833
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:00.840
That would be wonderful.

834
00:43:00.980 --> 00:43:01.260
Yes.

835
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.800
Thank you. Yes. Well, enjoy the rest of your week.

836
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.400
And we are recording on a Monday and whether you're

837
00:43:08.420 --> 00:43:12.400
tuning in live on Monday or another day, thank you

838
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:16.099
for tuning in the sound of gold. And it's all

839
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:21.230
about the music and it's all about getting to perform and,

840
00:43:21.670 --> 00:43:23.929
and giving it all we've got.

841
00:43:24.349 --> 00:43:24.590
Yes.

842
00:43:25.070 --> 00:43:28.510
Yes. Thank you so much. Thank you.

843
00:43:28.949 --> 00:43:33.570
Thank you. So as we close for this week, I

844
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:36.000
say help me keep the music alive.

845
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:40.900
In the future as next week. Tune in to find

846
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.559
out who my guest will be. I'm so excited. I

847
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:46.980
always have such wonderful guests.

848
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:48.989
And so I'm not going to tell. So you got

849
00:43:49.010 --> 00:43:51.070
to tune in. Thank you.

850
00:44:02.650 --> 00:45:01.719
Thank you. Thank you.