The Sound of Gold with guest Coastal Karma Brewing

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0:52 Hi, welcome back to the Sound of Gold. Happy labor day out there, Wishing everybody a very peaceful, enjoyable day with and family. I know many of us will get a break from working, so it will be very good day to take a break from our regular routines. Well, we're here today and we are well. Let me back up a little bit. Let me if you haven't been here before, Just to introduce myself and the show, The Sound of Golds. We are here to talk about music, music venues, music teachers, music schools. We want to keep music alive. We love to go to live events. We love how we get to be entertained at home. We love concerts. We love all the venues that supply that help bring music to life or keep it alive. I'm here in my home studio, I have my piano, and I do enjoy doing online concerts for you. If you haven't seen some of my performances, you can log onto my Facebook to see worms is I have online. And in addition to that, I'm not here for me. I'm actually here to promote my friends and my family members, my extended family members who I call friends, because so many of you are so talented and bring so much to the table when it comes to playing instruments, singing, or whatever you're playing. Today, I'd like to welcome a

2:27 very special guest in our community here in Florida. In Lake Park, we have a place called Coastal Karma, and Coastal Karma is I find it to be a very eclecticol brewery that friends and families do come together and hang out and listen to live music and also get to enjoy the brews that they brew there. And so let me I should say, help me welcome Charlie, the owner of Coastal Karma. Welcome Charlie, good morning, How are you doing good? How are you good? Thanks for having me? Yes, of course, of course I've been to your place several times. I have many friends and family that play instruments as well as myself. And I have so many questions for you, but let's I would like to start at the beginning, kind of like you're the owner of this place, what inspired you to do this? To bring it bring the community together.

3:28 Basically, I had a best friend who wanted me to brew with him one day, and so I did, and I liked it, enjoyed it, and so I started homebrewing myself, and then after a couple of years of home brewing, decided this was the industry I kind of wanted to be in now, and so then I set myself forth to know every aspect of this industry to get started and eventually starting my own brewery. So I did the whole aspect of starting out world of beers to learn more about the beers and serving them properly and everything like that along with home at the time. Then I became a beer repped around so I learned how to distribute beer and sell to customers and then eventually open to my brewery after that. So kind of learning all aspects of the gearing before I opened, so I knew what I was somewhat doing before I opened.

4:16 So I don't know I don't drink beer myself. I know I have friends and family that's too. What kind of beers do you make and serve? We grew a little bit of everything, so we do American styles, we do IPAs, we do Belgian styles, German styles, We make sours. We also do big stouts, so we do a little bit of everything. Some breweries nowadays are more specialized in certain styles, but we find doing a little bit of everything it fits a little bit more of how we'd like to present beer. Instead of being like a one trick pony and just doing one thing really well, we try to do everything really well. But people like our variety.

4:57 We get a lot of people that come in here and it's always like they like one of the main things they like besides the good beer, is just the variety that we have. There's always something different and always something new on and so it brings them in a lot. Okay, And then do you also serve wine or just beer? Well, we serve wine Selcer's beer wine slush for certain events. Okay, and then it's been a little while since I've been back there. Do you also serve food or is just a brewery? Pretty much? We use a food truck mostly okay, So if you're looking for food, it's best to call ahead of time to see if we have a food truck. If not, you can bring in your own food. Nothing against that.

5:40 Well, we do have a caterer opening up next door who's supposed to kind of help us out a little bit with food, but right now we don't know when he's going to open. But the word on the street is that we have a cater moving in next door. Nice. Nice. Now you're located in Lake Park? Correct? Yes? How would people find you? Are you? Do you have a website? We have a website, We have Facebook on Instagram. Uh, we're right off tenth Avenue, right behind the auto zone here in Lake Park. The main street in Lake Park is called Park Ave and so the Park Avenue N Street intersection, we're kind of on the corner of that almost, you know, right next to the advanced auto So pretty easy to find, really easy to get to. So we like, but I'm sorry, like where we're located.

6:35 Yes, it's a it's a great place on your busiest nights. How many people do you bring in or what's the capacity in your. Venue legally or not legally? Well, when we know, we know what the rules are, we know how to break it. Yeah, we can hold up to two hundred people. Uh, we've had one hundred person or slightly over one hundred person parties in here and no shoes with it being too crowd or anything of that. And that's how we designed this place was the upfront section is for people who want to sit hang out. The middle of the back section is more for people who want to stand and hang out. But it gives you a lot of room to walk around and you know, play games because we have cornhole indoor cornhole and stuff like that, and a shuffle board table as well. So and we just added a couple pinball machines, so there's a lot of things to do. We kind of make it, like you said before, a very relaxing place. You want people to feel like they're in their own living room to a certain point, you know, very comfortable, very relaxed environment.

7:37 But also give place a place for people to go to and chill out and have fun with their friends, say as playing cornhole or pinball or shuffle board or these kind of things. Sure, I will say and this is a huge compliment to you, and maybe it's my thing too, Like I love clean places. A place like it's got such a cool vibe to it, like the energy and it is just like, yeah, come in, just have a seat on the couch or or you know, a chair at the bar, and just like hang out. There's no the energy is just so so open and relax and the environment is just so clean, Like I love to come in just feeling like like it's not too dark in every You ever go into a restaurant where it's dark and it's like, I'm I'm afraid if they lift the lights, I'm not gonna want to be here.

8:33 So yeah, that's that's all. My wife I like things a little bit brighter inside because of beer. You want to see the color and all that. She likes. Chat's a little bit softer. So we came to an agreement on a little bit of a softer lighting but still bright enough in here that you know, you can see the colors of the beer and you can see everything in here, and we are. Staff does a good job cleaning up. It's funny that you just say that, because just yesterday we had the guy come in to clean all the furniture and the synthetic or synthetic turf and all that. So everything's been extra cleaned as of yesterday. So nice. You have to clean the furniture once in a while, because, believe it or not, it's amazing. My furniture at home never gets dirty for some reasons somehow here the furniture, you know, people still things and stuff like that. I get it, but it's amazing how much dirty or the furniture gets here and we have to we have to have it cleaned every once in a while.

9:29 Understood, understaid. So I might have mentioned earlier my show is the Sound of Gold, and so I'm a musician, I'm also a music teacher, and I came up with this idea that like we're in this generation where like we're not sure what the next generation is going to bring to the table when it comes to music. We have so much and I know you could probably agree with this. We have so much talent in our communities, and I am like an activist to wanting to keep us alive, to keep the originality of music alive and keep it going. And it's so important to have and to offer, like you do in our communities a venue where musicians can come and play can you know, sign up to play on various days of the week or the month. Tell us a little bit about that.

10:26 So we'll take me wrong. It's a little bit of a give and take sometimes with the musicians. We have a lot of music and we love the musicians. Okay. The problems sometimes we have as a brewery and this is not restaurants. Restaurants are slightly different. They can a restaurant can bring in someone who's going to play music for them and pay them no matter what the music is the ambience of that place, and so they're not worried about how many people the musician brings in. They're more worried about the musician keeping people there, okay, and then so that's how they can afford to pay the guy. Like we're going to be packed anyways, we're gonna have a music and that's the ambiance for Friday Saturday night here at this restaurant. That's what we're gonna do. I don't agree. We're looking to draw people in and so sometimes we have to get. We try to get. We try to help everybody. We give every very band a chance here.

11:14 But the bands that bring the most people in for us are the ones we keep going back to because at the end of the day, if I got to pay you four hundred dollars to one thousand dollars, but you only brought me twenty people, I'm losing money at that point. So it's a little bit of a give or take. Like some bands say like, oh, we have a we have a you know, three thousand followers or whatever, and then they come in here and I only see like fifteen people, and I'm like, well, what happened to all your followers? Like, you know, But we do have some bands that will come in. They we had a band here that would play every Friday. They were kind of like an open mic thing. They did it for free. We would pay them a certain percentage of the sales from the time they came on to the time they left, even though they were playing for free. We would you know, pitch in and help them out and give them a percentage of the sales just so that thank you. We've had other bands come in and if they feel like they weren't worth the money that we had to pay them because they didn't bring in enough people, they would actually give us, you know, the money back or half the money back or be like, hey, we don't earn this much. We didn't earn this full take, so don't worry about it. Because in a way where the breweries are still somewhat struggling. Even though we're doing pretty okay now, we're still not making money hand over fist or anything like that. We're still trying to build a consistent following, even though it has gotten better over the.

12:28 Last two years. But every Wednesday, we have a bluegrass band that plays here from one to three and they come in here. They play for free. They just want somewhere to practice, and we leave, and so we open actually early. We're not supposed to open all three, but we opened for at one for them. They come in and play. Anyone's willing to join them if they want, but they do play specifically bluegrass music. And then that other band I was taking about, they used to play on Friday nights. They used to use Friday night as like one of their practice sessions too. You know, they would come in practice that night and work on new material and things like that and have other people come up and play with them. And it was great. I loved it. But unfortunately that band broke up, and that's why I kind of fell apart on the Friday nights. But they did it for almost a year there and then they, like I said, they split. But yeah, we we'd love to have more bands and more music in here. It's just hard to always kind of pay them maybe what they want, and we don't have anyone come in that day, so to speak. I don't I don't mind putting bands on when we know we're going to be busy, we have events, we know we're bringing in a bunch of people.

13:35 It's we're gonna have a lot of people here for that band to to, you know, people to enjoy that band for. So no problems with that, but it's not always easy for us to have bands consistently all the time. So so that I understand you not to overstep your your profession and what the point that you're making. So let's say there's a local band that's pretty good and they want to come in and they want to play. And if they said, hey, Charlie, we want to set up like this day and this time, but we're just going to play for tips. Don't worry about paying us. We just like want to be out, we want to get noticed. Would you be open to something like that.

14:16 That's that's what I'm talking about. That's what a lot of these bands, we don't know how many people they can bring or so what they can do for us. So they come in and they want to play for tips. You know, they can get free beer the whole time they're playing, and they can play for tips, and look, if we do really well that night, I have no problems profit sharing with them or even paying them a certain amount. If they brought in a bunch of people and I thought it was worth it, We're going to get money. You know. It's a it's a give and take. If they're helping my business, why wouldn't I want to support. Or help them. You know, I love that. But to constantly keep paying and then I'm not making any money from them being here, that that's when we struggle a little bit. I'm just what I was saying. With the restaurants. When they have those bands playing on those nights, they know they're going to be busy. They know they can cover the cost of the band, you know, like I said, and you know, it does keep people there longer, But those people are already showing up. If no one's showing up to watch a band, then they can't keep people here longer because there's no people for them to keep here longer. That's where now if I do already have people here in a band's plane and they're keeping people here longer, then yes, you know I can, I can make the money back and everything like that, and then that warrants paying a band.

15:19 But so that's why sometimes I have them. We do it on an event night or a busier night where we know we're going to have a lot of people, and then the people couldn't stay there longer because of the band. So things work out that way. Interested I have a silly question. So maybe this was a couple of years ago. You guys had a baby grand in there, and then I heard that it was it was leaving. It wasn't staying. Yeah, are you going to be replacing that that piano or you just it was just time for it to go away. That was a somebody that helped us with the brewery, a coffee company that we were selling their cop and stuff.

16:00 It was their baby grand and he didn't want to keep it in stoage, and so he asked us the store and I said that'd be great because it plays itself and I love it and I used to have it played when I was working behind the bar. I would have set it on auto and let it play itself, and I loved it. But when we needed more of that space for other bands and we were moving in more furniture, we were losing some space and so the Baby Grand unfortunately had to go. I didn't want it to go, but it just took up too much space that we were going to need for bands to play. Because, like I said, we moved in more high tops and everything like that, so it took up space and we had to move some furniture over. So that's what happened to the Baby Grand.

16:41 So I'm asking for personal reasons, but for other musicians that you played keyboards, they it would be easier to bring a keyboard. I mean it's not so. Yeah, they would definitely have to bring new on keyboard now because we don't have the Baby Grand anymore. I will see this a lot of bands that do play here. The one positive we get from everybody that plays here is the acoustics in our place. They love I love the acoustics because the sound doesn't bounce all over the place off the walls. We have a fiberglass ceiling, so it absorbs the sound and then the direction they're playing. They're playing into a huge palette wall and so that absorbs some of the sound too, the cement walls behind them where they play, and so it doesn't bounce off that wall. And a lot of the musicians love the acoustics on our place. So that's the one consistent thing I've heard from all the bands that play here. They love the atmosphere too, but they also love the sound that it creates in here.

17:37 So your place does have a great sound, especially I've been there when there's a lot of people and even the I mean the band. It's just the some places I go to, the voices overpower the musicians. That your place, because it's so open, the voices don't overpower the musicians. Yeah, it's something that just we kind of fell into. To be honestly, we weren't planning on I mean, we didn't know this was gonna be a great place to play music. It just ended up that way. We always knew we wanted to have bands here in that because we're a brewery and that's you know, there's a there's a relationship there with with music and breweries, but we didn't know how good the sound was going to be.

18:19 We'll take it, yes, yes, absolutely, no. I also I do a lot of different things, and I know a lot of different people. I know recently actually maybe over the path or six months, you've had venues, you've offered like people to come in, like and set up tents and tables in honor of Coastal Karma was the name that was used to say, Oh yeah, we're gonna we're gonna have our event at Coastal Karma. So tell me a little bit about that. What you offer to the community that people can like come in and share your space with you. What is that about.

19:00 Well, sometimes we'll bring in a food company that's a catering company maybe and they want to serve food, so we set them up inside. We also just had a rummage sale, so a bunch of people brought their stuff in and the runners sale was mostly inside a couple of places outside during season, we do markets. We'll have markets from here from time to time and that'll be indoors and outdoors as well where people can come in sell their stuff. We did have the business Babes here for a little bit, but they've found another spot that they're at now. But we did have that for a time being. But we do do certain events and markets that we'll set up, and we do a lot of fundraisers for animal rescues and veterans because I'm a veteran myself, so we do a lot of a veteran kind of fundraisers here throughout the year, and so therefore we have those.

19:49 Sometimes we have different people come in and set up tents and sell stuff or you know, make people aware of certain things. So sure, we do. Have that because it's great for the community, and it's look, we have a big space and it's nice to get people inside in Florida sometimes so it's not so hot outside form and it does create a nice situation. We wish it would be a little more busy on those kind of days sometimes, but it's some days we're slammed on those kind of things and some days it's a little slower. It just all depends on what's going on that weekend. I think, sure, sure, and thank you for your services. I know there's been some times during the I don't live nearby anymore, but there's been a couple of times where I've been there during the day because you're open from twelve to midnight or what are you do?

20:42 We're open from three to nine or ten, just depends on that, okay, but that's Monday through Thursday, and then Friday, Saturday, Sunday we open at noon and we close at ten or eleven. And what I love. About your place, the vibe at your place is that it's not your typical brewery. At least that's the feeling I get, because there's been times I've gone. I've walked in and they could be a mom with her baby, or you know, there could be a mom and dad with their young child just sitting at one of the tables, just hanging out. And I love that your your place has such that welcoming feeling and you know, maybe dad's having a beer or you know, it's just such a great place to come in and hang out. And thank you for having this available to the community because you have some people might think of the typical brewery, as you know, the sticky floors and the dark bases, and your place is just warm and welcoming, and I love that you you provide that for the community. So thank you for that.

21:48 As well, yeah, we have a lot of families that come in here. We're probably the most family oriented brewery Stormhouse. They have food, so they get a lot of families because they have food, But we just get a lot of families here because they're kids. Since we have an artificial turf area, the kids can kind of run around and play on that, but they have to stay on the artificial turf, And we just get a lot of families here in here on the weekends and during the weekdays sometimes just coming in here to hang out, have a few beers and go just to unwind and let the kids kind of play around. So that's something we didn't one hundred percent plan on because, like you said, a lot of families don't go to buries in this area. If you go to Asheville or Tampa, it's all families at the breweries mostly.

22:32 Like there's a lot of families that do go to breweries, it's they're more like brew towns. They have a beer culture there. We don't really have that here, but here at Coastal Karma, the families really do enjoy coming here and hanging out, and as long as they respect the place, we're happy to have them. And it's fine. It's something that we weren't planning on having as much of in terms of families coming in here, but it's worked out well and we enjoy it. Just got to find that happy medium, because you know, some people don't want to be around the kids they come to a brewery and so you have to find that that middle line there. But I think we've we've established it pretty well. I think the fact that we're wide open, like you said, a group could come in with their family and they can be one area of the brewery and someone that doesn't want to be around kids can be at the other end of the brewery and they probably don't even know the kids are there.

23:23 Sure, whereas in some breweries are small. And the kids are right there with you and you can't get away from the kids because the brewery. Is so small. Whereas that that opens space alsops out and that in that sense. Sure, yeah, it's it's a great place. It's a great place. So for our listeners and our viewers. You you have a website, a Coastal Karma dot. Com or yep, and a Facebook yeats uh, yeah, it's just I think it's just Coastal Karma Brewing uh on the Internet and then uh yeah, you can just type us in Coastal Karma Brewing into Google and all the stuff will pop up. To find us and where we're at and all that. And if you do want to play for us or check us out, or have an event here like a birthday party. Believe it or not, we have a ton of baby showers here. It's yeah, another thing I did not think was going to happen, But we have a lot of baby showers here and birthday parties and corporate events stuff like that.

24:23 Just go to beer. At Postal Karma Brewing dot com and you just contact us with what you want to do here, what kind of event, what day, and then we'll set everything up. Bands if you want to play here, that's another way to get a hold of us, Or you can also get with us through Facebook. Just message us on Facebook too and we'll get back to you. Okay, awesome. And I didn't ask, And I am curious what inspired you to name it Coastal Karma. So I had another brewery I was trying to start with a very close fan to mine, and it was called Holy Water's Brewing. And I'm on my route working as a beer rep.

25:06 And he my buddy, emails me and says, hey, I want to in the partnership and I want to start the brewery on my own. And I was like, and this just came out of nowhere. It wasn't like we were fighting or anything, and then it kind of happened. He just out of the blue said that, and I was like, what, you started it and brought you in and now you will. So I'm like fine, and I go, no one can have the name in Holy Waters, then you can't have it. I can't have it because I'm going to start my own brewery. But I'm not gonna we just so we crabbled over that. But anyways, so I go to the bar and everyone's like what's wrong, and I'm like, my brewery just ended, Like our partnership just ended with my best friend. We just ended the partnership for the brewery. And they go, what are you gonna do?

25:47 And I'm going, well, I'm still going to start my brewery. I just got to find a new name. And they go. And so I had five of my buddies there all drinking for happy hour and we're like, okay, so what are we going to name it, and I go, I know Karma is going to be in the name. I don't know how, I don't know where, I don't know why. I just want karma in the name. And we kept throwing words out there, and then one of the guys and his last name was Beerman, actually goes, what about coastal And I'm like, Coastal Karma, costal Karma, Coastal Karma, Coastal clost Karma, brewing, Coastal Karma. And I go, that's it. We're good, we're done, We're doing it. And so that's that's really. How it came about. There was a group effort between see, drinking can't accomplish things. People out there and drink a few beers, you'll accomplish stuff.

26:29 So I just got the name through that. So that is something I'm trying to work on in the next couple of months here is getting people back to socializing and what brought us all together and how not not drinking to get drunk. Just going out having a few drinks leads to socializing. It actually does lead to problem solving and getting to know one another better and becoming friends. And it's one of the one things about this beer that I never thought what happened. To be honest, and I knew you'd make friends having a but I didn't know the kind of friends you would make having a brewery. And I have so many more new friends and really close friends now because the brewery, and people that have gone to my brewery have become friends that didn't even know one another before, and now they're friends, and now I see them hanging out outside of a bury. And those are things that a brewery really can do that people don't understand. If you're a social hermit, if you're lonely, if you're socially awkward, don't be afraid to come to a brewery. Like I've seen all three of those types. I just need to come to my brewery and make friends, and now have their own little social group outside of my brewery with those friends that they made here at the brewery. It's the one special thing that breweries do have over anything else, and that is the socializing and bringing people together and then eventually they become friends. And they can be from all walks alike. They can literally be Democrats and Republicans and they become friends. Trust me, it can work. You can be friends. And they hang out out outside of this place, and I love that. It warms my heart

27:59 when I see that happen, really does. That's so awesome. And you know, I will, I will stand stand for you by saying, yes, your your facility is so welcoming. And it's not the typical brewery. And I think a lot of us have the perception that, you know, a brewery is like, you know, dump. I don't know, maybe it's just my perception. You know, it's dark and dumpy and like I said, the sticky floors and just like drunk people, and that is not that is not your place at all, Destiny. You're not that far off because most times we're very good to cities to say I want to put a brewery in your city. The city council one of their things is like, oh, now there's going to be a bunch of drunk people around here, and you know, we can't.

28:41 We don't want that. And they don't understand people that actually go to breweries aren't looking to really get drunk. I'm not saying it doesn't happen from time to time, but we've never had one. Five years we've been open knock on Wood, we've never had someone come in here drunken disorderly. Ever, we've had a few people that drank too much. We send them home and an uber or whatnot, or they have someone come pick them up. But we've never had someone get out of line. People come here to have good beer and have good conversation, and that's basically what they come here for. They're not looking to have too many beers or get drunk really, you know, so breweries can get a bad stigma because you think you're going there just to drink, and that means you're going to get drunk. But it's not about getting drunk. It's about having just a couple of beers in good conversation with people, you know. And like I said, you don't have to be a beer drinker to enjoy a brewery.

29:29 You know, they have other things to drink, such as your Seltz's. We also have craft sodas. You can drink water if you want, but you know, it's still a cool place to come hang out and meet some people. I personally, which I mentioned earlier, do not drink, So when I come to your venue, I'll buy a bottle of water, and so yes, it's not I understand what you're saying and explaining the beauty of what you're doing. Also, there's been a lot of research in Europe and I have a lot of family in Europe where community and coming together as family and friends really has an impact on your longevity because your community is what keeps you going and to have like a safe place kind of like remember the movie or the TV show Cheers. There is that one place that like every week, you know, you walk in and it's the same people or the same friends, and those or those people that just seem like wallflowers become your.

30:28 Friends and you know, you expect to see them that they're part of, like the environment, they're part of, you know, they're part of I don't know what we're to use, they're. It's part of a social fabric. Thank you people together and keep people close. It's the same with Yeah, I'm not going to get religious, but it's the same thing the churches do to a point. You know, they bring people together, they bring them socially together. That's a good thing for the community. You know, restaurants as much as people go to restaurants, people go to restaurants and they eat and they leave. You don't sit there and talk to one another across tables, you know, whereas in Europe. In Europe you will have if you've been to Europe before, you sit at tables with other people. You can have your own table, but a lot of times you sit at a very long table with other people right next to you, and so therefore you can be you know, you start to socialize with them as well. You know, the Americans are very much into their their privacy and stuff like that, and it's just some detriment at times. Yes, there are times I want to go out and I do not want to be bothered. Yes, but I can go sit at a private table for that. But I think in the long run, it's nice to sit at a picnic table with other people drinking or eating and maybe get to know them. I mean, it's people. Everybody out there is interesting in their own way. When you talk to people, it's interesting to get to know them and find out who they are, what they are, what they do. You know, you can never stereotype people completely, like into this one pigeon hole that that's what they are. They start telling you about their life and you're like wow, shock, never saw that coming, you know, it's nice to get to know people.

31:58 It's true, and it's true what you said to you. I think being a being in America, well, I don't know if it's it makes a difference in different states, but yes, we were very kept to ourselves. And the fact that you have coastal karma that brings the community together. There's there's no reason why, you know, you can't be more relaxed. And I think ultimately, no matter what our ages and who we are, I think ultimately there's still that child inside that's afraid of rejection or like well that person like me if I if I say hi, or will they say hi back? And in America, we we're I don't know if it is stigmatized the right word to use. I don't know where we're afraid to say hello, We're afraid to has your day going? So what'd you do today? Like just small talk? And you know, sometimes that small talk can snowball into like your best friend, you know, you just don't know, or you could make somebody's day just by saying, hey, that's a great color you're wearing today, you know, and that could be like the only thing you say to that person, or you know, hey, have a great day, or you just don't know what people are going through because everybody is going through something.

33:11 Everybody has a story, everybody has something they're dealing with. And to have a place, a community place where people could come in there is no fee for your place. I know, you could just walk in and have a seat. There's no fee for parking. No, we have huge parking here too. Yeah. Yeah, people come in here, they feel welcome. Like you said, like people come in here all the time and they just they love our vibe as well. Same as you probably are. Number one. What do you called our number one praise is that everyone's like, I feel so welcome, Darren. I love the vibe here. It's my favorite place to go and relax or just to have a good time. And on your end of it, yes, I would love to get more music in here and create that vibe as well and create a mini music scene here because I think we have a great place that can you know, provide something for that music scene. But it takes a little bit from both sides to kind of work that out. But the invitation is over.

34:11 But it's but what you're saying is fair. I mean, that's just I mean, in my common sense, that's just that's fair play. That's like, let's come together, let's let's bring entertainment to the community. But let's see how it works for both of us. Because I'm not going to take from you and you're not gonna take for me. Because what we're doing is we're both giving at the same time. We also want some kind of balance in that give and take. Yeah, I'm a very much on the the fairness thing of you help me, I help you, and if I help you, you help me kind of thing. And so you know, and then sometimes you know, maybe things didn't go as planned, but you know, we'll pay you maybe next time you come back. You know, we'll work off of tips or something. And like you said, it's it's a give and take. You can always work things out.

34:57 Everything's negotiable when you're a business owner and you're in business, that's just how it works. We create the parameters rights as negotiators. Yeah, so we decide what we if we want to play there, will negotiate see if it works out, and you know, if it does, it doesn't. If it doesn't, it doesn't, then we'll get Well, we can always circle back, you know, just because you don't play this time, you can come back. Like let's just say you're a hardline like I need to get paid, blah blah blah, I don't have a huge following. Hey, you know what, when I have our anniversary or we have our October Fest, or we have one of our you know, Saint Patti's day parties here, we'll bring you in as as the first band of the day and we'll let you play and we'll pay you because we'll be able to pay you because we're gonna we're gonna do well that day.

35:40 Anyways. You know, I'm always willing to do that, Like, I don't mind paying you if if you're good and you know you don't have a strong following yet or a following, but you want to play and you want to get out there and you're you're worth the money, then you know what we can. We can take you on a day we know we're going to do well and it's going to be fine, Well, we'll get you out there and play in that and if it shows it's really good and it worked out and you know we can build you a following, then you know we can take it from there. Awesome awesome. Now on your website, do you have a calendar? Do you have like what you have plans like in certain holidays or certain days. Yeah, we have our events and everything posted on there.

36:22 Pardon me, though, but I don't know how far out it is. I want to say. I want to say it's a month out because in the Brewer we have a calendar and it's typically always a month out. So I assume the one on our website is a month out as well as Facebook. Okay, but if there's opens. And you want to give it a shot, I by all means, get a hold of us, contact us, and we'll work something out. Most likely you'll be dealing with Carrie, not me. You'll probably see me here, but Carrie and my and my wife Sarah are the ones that handle all the music and events stuff. So you'll be dealing with one of those two, Okay, to know. And so for for Labor Day, we're airing on Labor Day, and so do you have special hours today or you have regular hours?

37:11 Uh? Same hours today, over the weekend and then on Monday, we'll uh we'll be. Open right, So Labor Day, Yeah, on Labor Day, Memorial. Day, the two that fall on a Monday. We're usually open on those days standard hours. Usually. Uh once in a while we will I do advise people to check the Facebook and all that, or even call us because sometimes we will change the hours on Labor Day Memorial Day and we may open up earlier, but we will always be open no later than three and we usually go to nine. Okay, good to know Charlie again, Thank you so much for taking the time to be on our show today.

37:55 Do you have any last I'm not gonna say last. Do you have don't like that worth last? Do you have my last word? My last word? Do you have in our closing? Do you have any closing words? I think that's better said. Uh. Well, anyone that's heared in this, please tell your friends come check us out. For those who like cats, we have a brewery cat. His name is kids Mitt. He's amazing. Oh it's okay. He was here now he's in the brew house sleeping. I'm pretty sure of it. But he follows me around. But he's a little love bug and he's great and everyone loves him and we have shirts of his and all kinds of stuff. And once you meet him, you'll understand he's a great cat. He's one of the few cats that even a stranger could pick up. And he's okay with it. He's like, oh, this is what we're doing, all right, whatever, and he's great. And then, you know, like I said before, if you have a problem getting out and socializing with people, or you don't like being around a lot of people but you want to meet people, or you have a hard time meeting people, try out our brewery, you know. And if you enjoy good beer, try out our brewery. If you like having fun and you like playing games, come try or brewery. We have a great spot, like she said, And everyone that we've never had anyone come in here and not enjoy this place and have a good time at our at our place.

39:09 Believe it or not. Whether they like beer or not, it doesn't really matter. They still enjoy the vibe in the place and hanging out here and talking to people and everything like that. And football seasons around the corner. So you football fanatics, peace, come check us out. We have five TVs all set up with an eighty eight inch to set up to watch football. We'll be doing college, am Pro, NFL football here and so it's a great place to come watch sports. Even though we're not on a sports bar, it's still a great place to watch sports because you can see the games from anywhere in here. You can see almost all. The TVs the way we have it set up, so it's really nice for that. But please just come check us out and support us, and I promise you will support you. Great sport to good vibes and you know, go get them at attitude. I love that all our regulars come in here, like every time I'll leave here, man, I feel like I'm in a better mood, That's what, because they come in here meant to me and then they then they leave and now I'm angry but they're happy.

40:17 Oh yeah, it's cool. Well, thank you Charlie for for all that you do for Thank you and your wife and Carrie for all that you do for the community and for being such a cool place to come out and hang out hang out at. And thank you again for your time today. And I will I really appreciate it. Yeah, I will make a point to come by and say hi sometime soon. Please do will all right? Than take care? That was great because the Karma is such a cool place and I'm not just saying that because I've had Charlie on my show. But it really is just like a cool buy place where like no agenda, no expectations, it's just it's just a cool place. So if you live in South Florida, especially Lake Park area, or if you just want to take a drive and check out Coastal Karma, definitely look up Coastal Karma Brewing and check it out. You will definitely have a good time, even if you do nothing. Whether you drink or not doesn't matter.

41:25 Definitely check it out. So we have about five more minutes, and I would like to just play a little piano for you. If you're home watching this or if you're home listening, sit back, relax, close your eyes if you and enjoy the music. If you are driving, do not close your eyes. However, please enjoy the vibe of the music. And don't.

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45:20 Thank you so much for joining me today, and as I mentioned in the beginning of our show, wishing you a very happy Labor Day. Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, be safe, be happy, love the people you're surrounded by, and I love you. And yeah, let's keep the music alive in our communities. Let's keep the music alive around us. Everything is sound, and sound is music in my ears. So maybe blessed and I look forward to seeing you next week the same time, and yeah, thank you,