June 22, 2026

The Sound of Gold with guest Joe Taylor

The Sound of Gold with guest Joe Taylor
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Season 2

Joe Taylor is a singer Songwriter based out of Nevada! You can frequently find him playing at Tommy Bahamas at the Marlin bar at Timesquare. Joe also tours and plays with Sixtiesmania!
Tune in to learn about his musical journey. Everyonevhas a story to rell. What does it take to be regularly performing solo gigs at a local venue and also touring with a band.

The Sound of Gold is broadcast live Mondays at 4PM ET / 1PM PT on K4HD Radio - Hollywood Talk Radio (www.k4hd.com) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com). The Sound of Gold TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com).

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Gold. If you've been here,

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welcome back. If you're new, welcome. I'm here in my

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home studio and I'm sitting here with my cat, Cali.

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I know you can't see her, but she's right here

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next to me. And right now we are broadcasting live.

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It is a Monday afternoon. It is the end of

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the day, So welcome because today I have a very

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special guest. If you've been here before, you know, and

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if you're new. My show focuses on music, and as

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I mentioned, I'm here in my home studio and I

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compose on the moment and I pick up energy from you.

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And of course I'm in my home studio, so I'm relaxed,

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and I hope you are too. And I love what

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I do and I love having this opportunity to do

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this show, because this show is not about me. This

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show is about shining the light on all the talent

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that is in our communities. And we have so much talent.

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It's thundering here and lightning, so if you can hear that,

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sorry about that, But some other nature working at it's

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best today here in Florida. So anyway, music is always

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all around us. No matter where we go, what we do,

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there's music, whether it be food chopping or at a restaurant.

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And the greatest music that we get to hear is

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when it's live, whether we go to a concert, or

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we go to a live show, or we're at a

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restaurant and there's live performances. It is so great to

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be surrounded by talent. And I'm here to shine the

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light on so much talent out there that continues to

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show up for you. However they don't get the spotlight

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that they deserve. And today I'm especially excited because my

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guest is tuning in from Las Vegas and I have

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sitting backstage, mister Joe Taylor. Joe, come on out and

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join me.

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I can't stand to hear anything.

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No volume, oh, no volume really oh that's interesting.

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Something about that, and you do hear anything you're saying, Lisa.

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Okay, all right, so technical difficulties, no problem. While we're

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fixing that, and I thank you to my backstage engineer,

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I still get to play.

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I don't have anything memorized or a planned, so it

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gets a play in.

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The moment, just for you. There's Joe. Can you hear me? Joe?

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Still no audio on your end. This is becoming my

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comedy show. Okay, we're still working on the sound. I

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knew you heard me a few minutes ago.

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Joe.

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Well, Joe is tuning in from Las Vegas. And while

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we're working on the sound, I still get to play

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for you. And Joe is a talented singer, songwriter, producer,

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and he is also the lead singer for Sixties Mania,

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and we will get to hear his story and how

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and where he plays.

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Joe.

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Can you hear me? I guess not. Joe, can you

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hear me? Nope? This is a comedy show.

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Sorry, at least let me answer up real quick. Yes,

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can you hear me? Hello? You can't hear anything? Green

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you just heard us all ago?

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Yes, this is strange. My audience tuning in Please be

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patient with us technic technology difficulties. And it's storming outside here,

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so it might might be in the ethers Internet ethers.

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Because Joe is tuning in from Las Vegas. We are

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on opposite sides of the continent, which is so cool. Joey,

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can you hear me now? Not yet, We're working on it. Jill,

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can you hear me? This is funny? Not still, we

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are still working on sound.

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If you're just tuning in, you have Joe backstage.

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My engineer is working with fixing this sound. You still

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can't hear me.

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You're a joke or something that I can call him,

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I can't. He can't hear me either, Yes, okay, put

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it in the private chat, so we're not giving up everything.

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I tried to put the information in the private chat

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and he did.

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's okay, it might not be open. So my audience

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out there please stand by.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please excuse our technical difficulty.

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Yes, happens the best of us. Right.

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What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna mute you guys.

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So y'all can have a personal conversation without all of this,

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and said, so, go ahead and have a conversation with

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Joe and I will remind everybody that you're listening to

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the Sound of Gold right here on K four HD Radio.

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Please pardon our technical difficulties. Joe Taylor is a guest

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today and momentarily we will have everything going while we wait,

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we put on some backgrounds. Okay, so let's see where

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we're at now, Joe, do you hear us?

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I don't think he does.

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Oh no, so cannot hear us?

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Yeah?

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So Joe? Yes, no, no, I say no. Okay, So

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if we can motion to him to back out and

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come back in, possibly I can.

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I can message him. Okay, let's see. It's funny wack.

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Out and what's he showing up?

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Orlando?

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Oh?

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Yes, and then back in.

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That is so cute. He's going to Orlando.

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Muglaes. Gentlemen, we did hear him when we started the show. Yes, no,

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you didn't do anything.

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I know technology, you know, it was just weird.

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I can hear you now.

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Welcome. Awesome, we did it. We did it thanks to technology,

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thanks to Rebel to Go. Yes, well, it's so good

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to have you here on the show. Thank you for your.

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Patience, my pleasure.

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Yeah you bet, you bet. No, we've been friends for

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a few years. I love seeing the posts that that's

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the greatest thing about Facebook is we get to connect

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to so many people. And I mean, I've seen some

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of the stuff that you post, say, I've listened to

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some of your music, and you are just so talented.

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Oh, thank you, Lisa, You're just You're too kind.

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Thank you. You're welcome. And I want to share with

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my audience all the things that you do. But before

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we share that all your performing and all your talents,

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take us back to kind of the beginning of Joe

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and when Joe is introduced to music, Because you and

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I as musicians, we didn't just wake up and here

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we are. You know, it's kind of like it was

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a process and it was work in a fun way.

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But share with us well.

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The beginning. For me, I would say, it would have

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to go back to grade six. I was in my

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first ever play performance and I was actually in Joseph

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and the Technicolor Dream Code. But I actually got to

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be Joseph. It was so much fun. I did that,

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So I was a celebrity when I was in grade

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six for a couple of weeks. Nice, But that's pretty

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well how it, I'd say that's kind of how it started.

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And then uh, from there, when I was in grade nine,

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I ended up starting to play guitar and learned a

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few guitar chords. Okay, so the first song I ever

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learned to play was a song called rock and roll Music.

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But it wasn't the Chuck Berry version. It was the

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Beatles version.

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Three chords, A D and excuse me, And that is

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how it started. And it was it was just kind

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of like the get the fingers down. Okay, I got

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that A. Now let's do the D and now, okay,

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we're gonna go to the E. The E was always

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the easiest, the E and the E minor, right, So

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but I would say that, yeah, so I started to

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sing Beatles songs. I was a huge John Denver fan.

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I still am when I was a kid. I would

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sing that as well, and that.

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Got me started.

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So but I would say that is my earliest those

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are my earliest moments.

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And when was it that you first began like putting

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yourself out there, because it's you know, it's there's a

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lot of vulnerability that that goes behind that. People don't

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realize that for a lot of us, they think, oh,

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it's just so easy for them. Yeah. No, we we

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we all had to work through that fear absolutely.

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Okay.

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Well, the first gig I ever did. Have you ever

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been to like a Chinese karaoke bar?

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No, but I've seen it on television.

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Okay, it's it's a it's a little it's a bit tacky.

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But let's just say that. It was a place called

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China Landing, okay. And it was this small place and

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the stage was like as big as this chair is

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behind me. Basically it was like four of us. We

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couldn't fit on the stage. And it was in a

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Chinese restaurant and it was called China Landing, and we

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were called the first band I was in was called

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the James Band, Okay until they until we got a

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letter saying you have to change your name and uh.

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But when we did this three hour gig, and it

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was we had spent a couple of months learning all

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these songs and it was the worst.

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You know.

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Our fifty or one hundred friends all came out as

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as is such the first time we ever doing this,

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we were like maybe like sixteen and sixteen seventeen, and

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it was it was a lot of fun, but it

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was nightmare.

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It was a it was a sonic disaster, but everybody

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had a good time. Like nobody knew any better. And

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so it was. It was in the U. I grew

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up in.

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Toronto, Canada, yes, and it was in the western suburbs

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in a place called Mississauga. And this place, China Landing

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was like in some industrial place you know, you have

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those you know.

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It was in the middle of nowhere.

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Okay, but that was the first time that I ever

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I guess you could see, really put myself out there. Yeah,

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and it was a disaster, but it was fun. I mean,

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looking back now.

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It was fun. Did you I mean you started when

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you were in middle school? Did you take lessons or

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did you play by year?

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Well, I.

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Had a religious teacher, which I went to a Catholic school.

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I kind of grew up Catholic. I'm not very religious myself.

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And he was the religion teacher. His name was mister Anderson,

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and he was I think he may have I think

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he was probably a little I think he was a hippie.

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Actually he was, but he was a nice guy. But

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he was out there.

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And he's the guy that taught me my first chords.

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He got me started, and then from there eventually I

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did take some piano lessons over the years, and I

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eventually studied vocal jazz at a place called Homer College

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in Toronto, whis kind of like Berkeley of Canada, and

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so I learned to do all sorts of things there,

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but that was pretty well my formal training.

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Mister Anderson give him a shout out, I.

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Will I am mister Edison's the band.

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Yeah. So when so the friends that you met in

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school who were working with you as far as playing,

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and did you guys evolve together or did you kind

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of was it just like like did you meet people

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along the way to where you are now? Yeah?

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I mean clearly, you know, yeah, I met people along

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the way. I mean those people I probably kind of

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kept up with them until probably about two thousand and

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then two thousand and one I made the move to

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New York and that's when that's when things started to

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That's when the doors started to open up.

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That was the big move.

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Now, tell us a little bit about that experience going

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to New York and why. I mean usually the story is,

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you know, actually a friend of mine posted the other

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day I had thirty five dollars in my pocket, and

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I went to New York and stayed in you know,

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in a commune place and just tried acting.

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I love it.

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That's a great story. It's a great story. I'd love

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to hear about that sometime.

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One of my friends.

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Yeah, but how did it happen for me?

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There was there was actually a friend of mine, a

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mutual friend of mine who I went to college with.

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I was down in New York.

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His name was Scott, and he was doing some shows

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down there and he couldn't make a few shows, so

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he got in touch with one of his friends named Danny,

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who was doing work down there, and he actually had

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a gig at the at the Bitter End, very famous

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place on Bleaker Street in New York, and he needed

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it and they needed a bass player and somebody who

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could sing backups.

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And that's that's pretty well how it happened that.

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You know, I got a call on Thursday, can you

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come down Friday, I left, and then Saturday night I.

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Was in New York playing, uh, doing my.

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First gig in New York. It's pretty yeah, but no,

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that's pretty well how it started.

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It was. It was an insane let's just say it

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was a crazy drive.

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Because I at the time, I had my I had

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my parents start at the time, and I was I

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drove to Buffalo and then I took the train down

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and there's a sky rise in Buffalo.

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Let's just say.

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I kind of rolled in there like late at night,

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around midnight, and I drove the wrong way of the

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sky one of those sky rise you know, big ramps.

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So I kind of had to drive backwards to get

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down one of those when incoming traffic was coming. It

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was quite an experience. Actually, I got over to the

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train station. Eventually. It was an all nighter. It was wild,

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you know, it was quite it was quite a quite

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a journey. My friend picked me up. My friends got

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picked me up at Penn Station like that morning or

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the next day or whatever. Sometime in the afternoon. Actually,

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and this is so funny. He was like, have you

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ever really driven in New York? And I was like,

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it's been a few years. So we were at a

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place called have you ever been to Hula Hans? Yes, okay,

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so in Penn Station. So he's like, let's grab a

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couple of shots of you know, we'll get a couple

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of shots of Rye. It'll you'll handle the drive better,

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and I'm like, okay. And so we had lunch and

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had a couple of shots of Rye and and you

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know he was right, because if I hadn't had the

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shots of Rye, the car ride would have been a

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little insane.

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So but I know it was. It was. It was

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quite a fun experience.

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And then eventually I moved down there started to do

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more gigs, and so I was a bass player.

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So I really started out as a bass player.

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Now, and how many years were you in New York

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or months?

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I was in New York for probably about maybe twenty years.

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Wow, that's a considerable amount of time.

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Yeah, I used to do the commute.

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I would be in I'd be in New York in

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the on the on the weekends, and then I'd be

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in LA and the weekdays. And I did that back

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and forth for quite a long time. I I mean

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had heck, I racked up some major air miles. So

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but that was kind of fun.

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That takes this toll. Now are you doing? I want

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to I want to share with the audience and I

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want to learn too about your beat and how you

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got into.

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That my sixties media.

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Yes, yes, you're sorry.

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You're surciting. That's okay.

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But when we do a thing called sixties Mania, and

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then we do and then we also do a Beatles

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tribute and it's the same guys. Virtually we do a

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thing called for Forever fab so we are forever fabulous.

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Apparently nowhere where are you playing these days? Because we

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have an audience that's watching I's roll right now, but

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we also have an audience that's listening.

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We'll go to the website sixtiesmania dot com and it

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will tell you we play all over the country.

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We're all over the place, like.

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We could be here, we could be there, we could

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be in Malaysia, we could be in China, we could

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be It just depends on where we're touring at that time.

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So sixtiesmania dot com and most likely we will be

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in a city or a place near if not this year,

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next year.

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Okay, So you've been doing this a long time, so

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I'm going to yes, And they say it's not good

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to guess, but I'm going to guess. This is this

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is what you do for income.

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Yes, okay, this is how I make my mula.

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So there's a lot of I have a lot of

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friends that are musicians that are local. I'm a musician,

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my husband's a musician, but we also have jobs. So

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for those of you out there, like, don't go quit

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your job, and and like we all have this dream

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to be big and to be out there and performing. However,

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I think, and it seems common sense to me, you

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started young, and you've grown the momentum into doing this,

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and until that momentum is built up, it's you know,

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it's not something you want to just like bail your

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job from or your regular nine to five jobs or well.

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Here here's the thing.

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You know, you do what you have to do to survive,

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of course, but you have to really, really really love

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music to have it as a full time thing, because

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there will be some ups and they'll some downs, There'll

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be some bumps. It's like, but at the end of

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the day, you just kind of got you gotta balance it. Well,

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what I would say, if you wanted to do it professionally,

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you if you like there's a difference between doing it

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because I.

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Love it and then doing it professionally.

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You have to pretty well do both, I'd say, But

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if you want to do it professionally, my advice if

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I was giving.

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Any advice to anybody out there would.

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Be you have to be willing to grow and to

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be able to step out of your comfort zone. Because

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at the end of the day, we all have about

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a dozen little licks that we like to do.

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We have our go to I'm going to do my

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go to thing. I do my go to you know.

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But when you really expand, it's when you go to

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your things that you have not gone to, where maybe

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you go to part of your go to but then

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you go somewhere else which your brain is not used to.

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So as a result of that, that will create discomfort

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and you'll feel disharmony.

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But got to work through that. So the ability to

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do that, but also it's a business. You have to

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be able to manage yourself as a business. You know,

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you have to be able to put yourself into the

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right situations. But generally you need to really really do

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your homework and know what you're doing, and then from there,

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opportunities will come up, and generally they don't come up

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all the time. If they do come up, when they

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do come up, you have to be more than ready.

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You can't just be oh, I'm gonna see if I can.

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You've got to be You've got to be even more

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than ready, right, you have to be more than like

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if you want to do it professional because there's so

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many people that are there. Right, you have to love it,

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but you have to learn and you have to grow.

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You have to push yourself to constantly push yourself to

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the next level.

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But at the same.

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Time, as an original artist, because I'm also that, yes,

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you also have to really really you have to have

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the mechanics.

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But then from an original artist's point of view.

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You have to step back and then you have to

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to how everybody is. So I do two things. I

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perform as a tribute. Right, I am in a character.

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It's like a Shakespearean imagine a play, Shakespeare play.

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I'm in character.

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I'm John Lennon, I'm whoever i am, Okay, I'm John

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Fogerty whatever. I'm in a character. That is different than

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being an original artist. So it's two separate things.

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Where, yeah, you have to master your skills, you get to.

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A certain point, but then you have to do but

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then you also have to you also have to understand.

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Where you are and what you're doing. Right, what are you?

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What are you doing? Are you? You know?

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And you have to understand you. So two separate hats.

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I just wanted to separate them.

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I love that. Thank you, Thank you. Now, how do

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you go about getting making the connections that you make

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to like get the call from Malaysia or get you know,

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a call the come back to Canada or me.

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Have you ever heard of the ten thousand hour rule.

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Yes, you put in the ten thousand hour rule, you'll

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get You'll get the calls, You'll manifest it. Manifestation putting

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yourself into the right place isn't just I'm going to

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go meet somebody, but it's they're going to be drawn

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to you based upon what you can do. But it's

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not just what you can do in your basement. You

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do have to put yourself out there. So if you're

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a musician, go out to you know, go perform, go out.

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To open mics.

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Social media obviously gets people out there, but at the

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end of the day, you can be a super extraordinary

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talent and that will get you far. But to really

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go farther, there's got to be something inside of you

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that is genuine.

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Yeah.

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So it's a whole It's not just what you do,

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but it's it's it's a whole it's the person. Are

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you are you just getting a face? Are you just

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are you trying to emulate somebody? Are you copying somebody?

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Or are you being inspired by everybody around and saying Okay,

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I really like that. I like this Lisa girls, she

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kind of I love how she kind of tinkles the

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keys and then she kind of goes up high there.

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That's kind of cool. I like that. Okay, so you're inspired.

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But then, but then, Joe, I've got to have my

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own thing. Yes, it can't just be a facade. It

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is a facade, but there's got to be there's got

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to be something behind the mask that resonates. And when

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you start to resonate a certain energy, you will draw,

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you will you will attract. Do I sound like Tony

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Anthony or Tony Robbins or whatever?

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Right, you're like, it's so.

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True, though, because you know what I have this You're

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not silly. I appreciate it. Silly. I like being silly.

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You know, there's there's something that will never lose as

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human beings, and that is authenticity. You cannot buy authenticity

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and you cannot fake authenticity. And if you show up,

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I agree with you one hundred percent if you show

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up one hundred percent authentic and show up for yourself,

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not only just like show up because like you're performing,

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like show up for you because there's so much gratification

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in following your passion and doing what you love for

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yourself first. And there's no again, we should buy that.

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You can't buy that. So with your lifestyle, I'm sure

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you've adapted to it. A couple of weeks ago, I

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had a guest on Steven Abby and he said, you

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know what I travel. I do a lot of performing.

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He does orchestras and travels the world as well.

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And it goes awesome. That's cool, good for him.

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Yeah, it's a little bit lonely, he goes, But I

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love what I do, so it makes up for it.

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So and I can understand that I have a lot

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of friends in the business, and you know, we we

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get used to it.

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But are you sure are you referring to like just

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on the road alone?

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Yeah, not having love, not feeling love, No.

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Not so much that. I mean, you have your bandmates,

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you have your friend.

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You well, I do every now and then I'll give

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them a hug, but I don't hug them.

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They might get the wrong idea, but I do love them.

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00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:13.359
Well, no I'm not. I'm not being like bye, I

477
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.680
am silly, but I'm not being funny about.

478
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:17.039
I'm going to give you a serious answer though. We're

479
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:20.000
gonna dial it and I know what you're talking there. Great, okay,

480
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.319
so let me give Okay, So let me I would say,

481
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.880
is you have to know you. You've got to be comfortable.

482
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:25.799
Like for me, I can be.

483
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:26.440
I can be.

484
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.279
I could go like months on end with just me.

485
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:31.960
I could just be here working in my studio. This

486
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.440
my little sound booth behind me by the way, before

487
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:39.640
I record my vocals. My home is literally a studio.

488
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.000
It's like a studio. It's almost like a James Bond

489
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:44.400
you ever see like the James Bond cars where he's

490
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.160
got all the gadgets. Literally my apartment has just been

491
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.000
converted into this is a studio.

492
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:50.759
Okay.

493
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.079
That's it, you know, like, oh, forget all that other

494
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.880
stuff I have to do. Well, I do that too, Okay.

495
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.799
So you need to be comfortable and confident with with

496
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:02.039
who you are, and that takes a lot of internal work.

497
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.559
And the big thing is validation. You're on stage, those

498
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.720
people are loving you.

499
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:08.519
Oh great job.

500
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.400
You know, you know, Okay, well that's nice, but that

501
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:14.559
can't be your only steam that's driving you, because then

502
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.880
you're going to get into trouble. If you need external validation,

503
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:19.960
you got to have it on the inside. You've got

504
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.160
to be confident with who you are, and you've got

505
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.240
to really enjoy that time alone. Right when you do

506
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:27.519
have that time alone on the road, I love it

507
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.920
because I'm like, Okay, this is cool. I'm going to

508
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.720
read up on this. So I'm gonna there's this really cool,

509
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:36.920
you know, guitar solo. Maybe I'll look at you know,

510
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.000
I'm not really a guitar player. I do play guitar,

511
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.799
but I'm not like an elite player more rhythm. But

512
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.039
I'll look at that. Oh that's a cool reffer. I'll

513
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.920
listen to I love classical music as well, or and

514
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.279
I'll listen to certain things. Wow, you'll take that apart.

515
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.720
Or you know, sometimes I'll just go out in nature.

516
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:57.240
So I just enjoy being on my own because when

517
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.759
you're in front of like a thousand people, ten people,

518
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.039
twenty thousand people, it doesn't matter what it is. It

519
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.440
could be twenty people, it doesn't matter. The point is

520
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:13.119
that I'm almost overstimulated with people's energy. So when I'm

521
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.400
on myyo, it's like I'm going to enjoy this downtime.

522
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:21.759
But again, it can get lonely if you are not

523
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.519
if your head is not in the right it can

524
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.720
it can. So you have to be very mindful about

525
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.079
or you got to do the work on the inside.

526
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:31.880
It's not a serious enough answer.

527
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.079
Yes, it was a great answer, and it's so true.

528
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:39.119
I mean it's and I don't travel like you do, don't.

529
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.880
I don't perform as much as you do. However, when

530
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.480
I do perform, and when I show up on stage,

531
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.000
this is from my audience out there, like again, show

532
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:53.160
up for yourself and know what you're doing. However, there's

533
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.319
this there's a secret beauty and I think it's musician

534
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.319
talk that you just kind of go into the zone

535
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.599
when you're when you're playing, you go into that zone

536
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.640
and you get to just one hundred percent be there

537
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.920
with your instrument, with yourself. And I don't know about you,

538
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.920
but for me, like whoever's watching or listening, like that

539
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.719
all falls away, like I don't even know that they're there,

540
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:17.079
you know.

541
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.320
I call that, I call that therapy.

542
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.559
It's a therapy. Session. Yes, I well, I will say

543
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.760
I am aware. I am aware of.

544
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.119
Oak to a certain degree.

545
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.199
Yes, to a certain degree. But yeah, you get into

546
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:32.599
the zone.

547
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.159
I guess you could say you get to go home,

548
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.519
which is we spend a lot of time outside thinking

549
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:41.519
over here, over here, but we don't spend a lot

550
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.960
of time at home. So when you're performing and you're

551
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.760
in the right place, like you're talking about, I totally

552
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:47.519
get what you're saying.

553
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.639
You are at home, you get to.

554
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.639
Be who you are and then and in a certain degree,

555
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.519
but not completely, because we don't want to be locked

556
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:59.320
up with white coats, you know, and thrown into a

557
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.840
crazy room, but we do get to remove the mask

558
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:06.639
from ourselves to a certain extent, not completely, but quite

559
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.199
a bit where people get to see, Wow, this is this,

560
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.960
you know, Lisa, this is this is this is this

561
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:13.800
is kind of this is who I am. Like you're

562
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.000
seeing more of who I am than you might in

563
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:18.199
a regular conversation.

564
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:20.039
You know, you might get some of it, but this

565
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.079
is even more so.

566
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.679
That energy is just pouring out of you and and

567
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.159
it's so real and it's so refined, and it's like

568
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.519
and sometimes it can be intense. Sometimes you know, but

569
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:33.199
it will affect people in certain ways.

570
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:33.400
You know.

571
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.519
Sometimes with an audience, and this is one thing, another

572
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:38.800
point that maybe you'll get on later or maybe not.

573
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:41.880
You'll do the gig and the audience doesn't seem to

574
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:44.760
be responding as much, but then after the gig they're

575
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.079
coming up to you and they're like, oh my god,

576
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.559
like that just blew my world away, like wow, like

577
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.239
but it can be because the audience is actually with

578
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.920
you and reflecting. So just because you're not getting a

579
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.760
big applause some nights doesn't mean they're not with you.

580
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:05.039
Some times they're with you more. But their process, they're.

581
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:05.320
Listening and they're processing it.

582
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.360
But then there are some nights where they're going crazy

583
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.880
and they have a good time and that's okay too,

584
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:12.559
you know, and that's great too.

585
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:14.199
So there's different levels.

586
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.519
But as a performer, I would say, don't ever be

587
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.480
so quick to judge what impact is happening around you

588
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.320
never know, because but that's why you have to not

589
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.159
worry about that so much and focus here just being

590
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.320
And yeah, if you want to play with the audience,

591
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:30.599
I do.

592
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.400
I have fun. Andrew who is in sixties Mania, he's

593
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:35.199
kind of the main.

594
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.519
Guy in sixties. I'm I'm kind of his lieutenant. I

595
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:41.400
help him out with the vocals. But you know he will.

596
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.280
He's a great MC. He's really good at that.

597
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.199
But but you know, there'll be certain nights, you know

598
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.719
where yeah, you start thinking all bad, did that song

599
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.039
hit that did not hit? And and you think, oh,

600
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.960
maybe it didn't, but then you realize now it it

601
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.119
did hit. It hit so hard that people were just

602
00:36:58.519 --> 00:36:59.880
didn't know how to respond.

603
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.159
No Joe. For our musicians out there that are outperforming,

604
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.159
What is your advice on anxiety?

605
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:16.519
Anxiety? Besides, I would say you have to have some anxiety.

606
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.199
If you don't have any anxiety, then you've then I

607
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:21.400
feel that you've lost it.

608
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.000
You have to have a little bit. You've got to

609
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:24.599
have that there.

610
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.519
So there's the good anxiety that's going to make that

611
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:29.679
adrenaline kind of boost, that's going to make you do better.

612
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.360
Sure, but you're like still a little nervous.

613
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.840
But then there's that other anxiety, which is, oh my god,

614
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:36.400
I can't do it.

615
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:37.079
I'm going to be sick.

616
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.079
If if you are that you have that anxiety, what

617
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.800
I would say is maybe.

618
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.119
Work on it a little bit more, work on it.

619
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:47.960
And I would say work and if you're playing guitar,

620
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.079
singing or piant whatever you're doing, if you have a mirror,

621
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.440
perform in front of the mirror and become very comfortable

622
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.840
with the person in the mirror is my solution. But

623
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:58.599
the other thing is do it so much that it

624
00:37:58.599 --> 00:37:59.880
becomes so second nature.

625
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:01.239
But don't wait forever.

626
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:02.840
At a certain point, even if you haven't got it

627
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.000
all down, go out there, Go do an open mic.

628
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.639
Just get out there and do it. Because once you

629
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.880
do it the first time, you're like, like, what's his face?

630
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:16.239
Rocky Balboa and Rocky three, you're intu bad? What are

631
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:20.320
you saying that you're intu bad? And it's terrible invitation,

632
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.519
But it's it's not so bad. It's like okay, wow,

633
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.760
Like okay, it was I overcame this. So generally, when

634
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.840
you have a fear, I would say, try to overcome it,

635
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.599
even if you're terrified, do it at least at least

636
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.239
you did something right and then and then it gets easier.

637
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.320
But if you lose that anxiety where you have none

638
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.079
of it, then you've lost that's not.

639
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.159
A good thing. You have to have a little bit yes,

640
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.960
the just before you start you're like.

641
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:50.039
There's this saying that if you have anxiety is a

642
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:54.119
signal to you that says that you care, that you're

643
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:58.039
showing up and you care. Yeah, and then you know,

644
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:00.559
I don't know if that means if you're over anxious

645
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.440
and you're overcaring. I don't know if that's true. But yes,

646
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:06.960
it's healthy to have a little we're all cut a

647
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:07.400
little bit.

648
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.000
And then and then, and then you get to the

649
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.079
point where it's you're neurologically crazy because you're so worried,

650
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:17.719
then you know that's something that can be worked through breathing.

651
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.599
There's different pressure points that you can push on your body.

652
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.400
You can reset yourself with certain certain pressure points will

653
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.519
do that. But just breathing, breathing in, breathing in, just

654
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:31.079
focusing for you know, even even if it's for thirty seconds,

655
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.039
just breathe in and breathe out and just and and

656
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:35.920
what do they say? They say this all the time

657
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.119
and every damn thing that like ninety five percent of

658
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:40.800
all your worries never come true.

659
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:42.800
So even less than that, most of the time it

660
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:43.480
never happens.

661
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.159
Yes, right, So okay, so maybe you do make an

662
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.239
ass out of yourself I've made an ass out of

663
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:50.760
myself many times, but guess what you learn from it.

664
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.440
I'm not saying that should be your goal. I'm going

665
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:54.760
to make an ass out of myself.

666
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.880
Yeah, you know, but I have had to say I

667
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.519
have one. I have to say, Joe, that we are

668
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:05.719
each our own judges, and we judge ourselves so harshly.

669
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:09.920
So yeah, you might have come across as more funny

670
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:14.960
and warm than than you're being harshing yourself. So so yes,

671
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.320
a shout out to everyone out there. And I always

672
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.679
say this to my students because I'm also a music teacher.

673
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:23.639
I always say, be kind and be patient with yourself

674
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.000
because you don't know what you don't know, and as

675
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.360
you grow and learn, you know, we get frustrated with

676
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.800
what we don't know. So be open to what you

677
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.039
don't know, because you don't And even like even when

678
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:39.960
I'm practicing and I get you mentioned earlier, like be open,

679
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.920
Be be open to work with other people because again,

680
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.960
what you don't know, you don't know, So be okay

681
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.840
with that, Be okay with learning different approaches or different

682
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:52.239
ways or different rifts or different chords or hey, you know,

683
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.679
I'm playing this. Indeed, but wait a minute, isn't that

684
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.760
normally in c Well yeah, but you know, we're adapting

685
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.840
to your voice or his voice or right. You have

686
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.880
to be easy to work with because it just makes

687
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.079
it more fun for everybody. Nobody wants to work with

688
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:09.320
somebody that's all like all stress down and you know,

689
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:10.639
angry exactly.

690
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:13.519
And you think about the fear too, like some of

691
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.679
its fear, some of it's comfort. We as human beings

692
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:18.760
do not like to go out of our comfort zone.

693
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.000
We'd love to master a few things.

694
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:21.199
You know.

695
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.360
Vocalists they'll master their scales, they have a certain couple

696
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:27.239
of licks they do. Guitar players they have their twelve

697
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.199
and so. And I've produced a few people, and I'm

698
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.280
driven guitar players nuts because I don't they I don't

699
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.480
really play lead, but I can hear everything, right, It's

700
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:40.920
like piano, but I can hear everything. So I don't

701
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:42.719
know this, and I'm like, hey, why don't you try

702
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.440
to add this extra note or take out this note?

703
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.960
And they're like, and they're a little bit defensive about

704
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.119
it initially, But I'm not thinking what I'm producing as well.

705
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:53.000
I produce as well.

706
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.800
I'm not thinking about hey, here's the guitar player, here,

707
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.840
here's the singer. I'm thinking, what is going to put

708
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.599
them in the best place? But what is best for

709
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.480
the song? It's a team effort. If you're doing a song,

710
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.360
what is best for the whole thing. I'm looking at

711
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.400
the big picture, right, So that's another thing that I

712
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.159
would say as well. If you want to improve, think

713
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.679
about the big picture. You know, it's okay to pick

714
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.239
up some of these other instruments. Maybe you don't become

715
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.400
overly proficient, but become proficient enough. If you're a songwriter

716
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.159
that or you just want to jam with people, become

717
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.159
proficient enough where you start to learn some of the

718
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:30.280
other some of the other instruments where you know how

719
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it works, and then your own playing will get better

720
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.320
because you sort of know where to be and where

721
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:39.159
not to and there's no right or wrong place. It's

722
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all subjective at the end of the day. But then

723
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:43.800
you could make the argument when you listen to Bach

724
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.360
and Mozart, well lose that subjective. Yeah, it's subjective, but

725
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.360
I would say, but I would also say, there's genius,

726
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.880
you know, so there still is even with subjective, which

727
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is sort of the layman's term to get out of

728
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.280
it to make the argument. But there still is, you know,

729
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.760
there's still I believe musically is and then there is here,

730
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.400
there and there. So but not that I would say

731
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learn the other instruments. Just learn them basically, you don't

732
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.920
have the master them, but pick one to get good

733
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at first.

734
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.519
But know, how are these what are these other people doing?

735
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:20.599
If you're going to play with other people?

736
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.440
So we have a couple of minutes left. So two questions, One,

737
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how do how does my audience get in touch with you?

738
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.960
As far as producing goes? What type of work do

739
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:34.639
you produce? And then the other question is where are

740
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:35.559
you playing next?

741
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:40.280
Yeah, I produce like basic pop records, I do record

742
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.519
coss co muics well, but I do all sorts of music.

743
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.039
But they can get in touch with me at Joe

744
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.119
Taylorofficial dot com or they can go on the Facebook

745
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.000
Joe t Official okay Facebook, and I think they could

746
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.920
probably just go through you and just look for Joe

747
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.559
Taylor on Facebook is probably the easiest way to do it.

748
00:43:58.039 --> 00:43:59.960
And what was the second question, Oh where are we

749
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:00.639
playing next?

750
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.760
Well, the next gig that I'm doing, I'm not playing

751
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:06.920
for a little while now, So I'm going to be

752
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.480
heading off. But the next gig I believe that I'm

753
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:11.920
doing is going to be at the Eisman Center, the

754
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:17.480
Sixties Mania in July. That'll be in Dallas, Texas, and

755
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.199
it's it's a beautiful theater, which is amazing. And but

756
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.840
there was a little bit more thing. There was one else,

757
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.679
I something I wanted to say. So I've also started

758
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:34.159
to work with a new producer. Okay, so I produced,

759
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.320
but I've also started to work with a new producer

760
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.960
out in California, and so new songs are being developed

761
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.519
and I'm now in the beginning phases.

762
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.400
I'm working on a production. Do you like there? So well,

763
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.559
I won't say anything else my fingers crossed.

764
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:50.239
But if you do see new material coming out, and

765
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.599
you know, into the end of.

766
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.480
This year or next year, there's new material coming.

767
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.840
So and you write your own song.

768
00:44:57.920 --> 00:44:59.360
I do. I do.

769
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.119
That's one of the things I do. I kind of

770
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.480
I do it all. I learned it over many years,

771
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.079
you know it just I love doing it though.

772
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:07.599
It's fun.

773
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.360
That's awesome. I could have you on for another hour

774
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.119
and ask like tons of questions, but where we have

775
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.800
a one minute left? Joe, real quick share the audience.

776
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.480
Any last words of inspiration as far as musicians out

777
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.400
there that want to get more involved.

778
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:27.280
Yeah, I would say just don't ever stop believing. Yes,

779
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:32.599
but don't just be a dreamer. Be a doer. Sometimes

780
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.599
it might be fifteen minutes a day that you're doing

781
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:40.039
something investing towards yourself musically as a musician, as building

782
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.360
your business, and it's important. You've got to be consistent.

783
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.400
You've got to just have some type of incremental things.

784
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:50.960
And final word, if you do have a success, success,

785
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.679
if you have success, celebrated, but also have gratitude that

786
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:58.360
you have that success, and be humble and be humble

787
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.679
and then then move forward, but celebrate your winds.

788
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.239
Yes, absolutely, Joe, thank you so much for being with

789
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:09.840
us today. Thank for my audiences out there. Tune in

790
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:13.000
with me next week. I have another fabulous guest every week.

791
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.280
I feel so grateful and so thankful to be connected

792
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:22.159
with such fabulous talented musicians out there. And Joe, thank

793
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:23.480
you so much. Best version.

794
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:26.400
The next time I'm back in Florida, I think we're

795
00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.559
in Florida in the fall, I will reach out to

796
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.119
you for sure, maybe come out.

797
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:31.519
To a show.

798
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:38.360
Yeah, absolutely, all right, Joe, Yes, we will look to

799
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:39.519
talk to you too.

800
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Bye.

801
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:46.480
Thank you to my audience for tuning in. Whether you're

802
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.000
watching this live now on Monday or another.

803
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:57.880
Day, I wish you much peace and happiness.

804
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:04.320
Always be safe with your travels and everywhere you go.

805
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Must of all be patient, kind, and be happy