June 8, 2026

The Sound of Gold with guest Bobby Gugliuzza

The Sound of Gold with guest Bobby Gugliuzza
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Season 2

Tune in to learn more about Bobby Gugliuzza. He is a true artist. A composer, a songwriter, a musician and performer both on stage and off. Tune in and learn about his brand new single called, "Scrolling" that was released on May 29th, 2026. Playing on WKRPDB Pirate Radio Rock and more.
How do talented musicians like Bobby, keep it all going? What is Bobby's biggest inspiration? Where will Bobby be performing next?

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Hi, and welcome to the Sound of Gold. If you've

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been here before, welcome back. If you're new, Welcome. My

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show is based on music and everything that has to

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do with music, musicians, music venues, music teachers, music schools.

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I'm here broadcasting out of my live obviously out of

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my studio in my music studio at home, and I'm

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here at my piano and other than radio show host,

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I'm a music teacher. I love to teach and work

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with my students learning how to read music and play

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piano and music theory. And why I do this show

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is I have this great passion for connecting with people

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and especially musicians. We have so many artists and talent

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in our environment, in our communities, all around us all

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the time, and you know what, we don't get the

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recognition or the acknowledgment that we deserve, and so I

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am that voice to say, hey, we want to be noticed,

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we want attention because we have something to share with

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the world. It's not a personal selfish like, oh I

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need to be acknowledged. It's more like I have a

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gift to give you, and music is a gift. Music

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is healing, Music is world language. It's it brings us

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together in unity, and it's just such a Personally. I

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prefer the piano because it's my favorite instrument and I

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teach it, but there are lots of instruments and lots

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of musicians that play different types of music, different type

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of instruments, and it's all, like I said, worldwide, we

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speak that same language in unity. You know, every week

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when I have a show, I don't ever say who

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my next guest is going to be for the next

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week because I hope that you continue to tune in

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to find out. I believe every guest that I have

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on my show is so special and so talented. And

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I have a friend of mine. I know him and

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his wife many many years, and I'm so privileged and

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honored to invite my friend on the show today. Bobby.

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G Bobby, I know you're sitting backstage. Come on, come on,

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come on down and join me.

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I'm here. Hey, aw, thanks thanks for having me.

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You're welcome. And Bobby, I don't know if you've listened

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to my show before my other than what I mentioned

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having you on my show.

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You are my.

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Star guest and you are so talented and we met

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we met through Michael elden Lop singer. Well, you guys

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are working on mustard Seed.

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Wow. That's a classic now, yes, and.

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That was on a film. So that was film score

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that you guys did back.

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Back in Oh gosh, I can't remember how unny.

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I don't even know.

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Usually Mike listens to this stuff and he starts texting

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me it was two thousand.

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Because you haven't talked to you in a while.

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I love him. I miss him so much.

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He's awesome. So Bobby, tell us a little bit about

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your I want to hear about the film score stuff

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and how you got into that. And so this is

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my audience, but for an audience who is like new

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to the music world and wants to get more involved, Like,

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what's been your journey? What has gotten you to where

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you are today?

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Oh? God, just when I was fifteen years old, like

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fourteen fifteen, I wanted to play music. I knew it.

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And my dad's a jazz drummer. He was a jazz

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drummer and so you know, watching him play, and he

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used to take us to a couple of his jazz

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gigs and then we'd be just sitting there trying to,

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you know, be kids, and we just got we got hooked.

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We knew it. And the music, the music flows through

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our blood, all of us kids, and it's just it's

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like magic. And we just knew we were all going

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to be musicians. And so I wanted to play the

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guitar because my other brothers were playing drums and I'm like, no,

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I'm not going to be a drummer. I want to

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do something else. So I got got into the guitar

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and fifteen. The next thing I know, I was I

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was playing covers, you know. And this was when I

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was living in outside of Buffalo, New York, and a

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little place called Lockport. It's it's a very cool place.

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And I got a couple of bands there and I

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won we won a talent show at the local theater

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and it was and it was so amazing. It felt

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so good that that that, you know, it was my

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first you know example of like working really hard, practicing

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and seeing something come out of it. That's like just amazing.

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And then from there I started playing in other bands

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and then then we opened up for a national act

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up there. But then I moved down to Florida and

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started playing down here in West Palm Beach. And next

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thing I know, I had a band called Leyden. It

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was an original band and we and we did that

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was an ninety eight I think we released a record

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that did like two thousand copies. We still like two

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thousand copies, and it was it was like it was

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a really good record. It was it was like a

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little bit of progressive rock and a bunch of stuff.

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And I wrote a lot of political stuff as far

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as what was going on in the world.

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I wrote about your music, your.

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Music, yeah, yeah. And then and then after that, I

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just kept writing. I just kept writing and did like

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five or six things. I have all the CDs here.

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I'll let you guys see them. I got them so

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I can so you guys can check them out. And

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I don't know, I don't I don't want to miss anything,

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but I got so much where was I? Okay? Then

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after that? Then after that I joined a Christian band. Hello,

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let me interpt me.

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So like, for us musicians out there that are not

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where you're at, right, what would you like? Times are

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different now? You know, there's so much more technology in

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so many ways. It makes it easier, but then it

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takes away from the authenticity of the real you know,

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the real thing. But I mean, who's to say it?

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Whats better? What's worse? I believe in the instrument itself. Yeah,

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writing without AI destiny personally, I'm not thank you.

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I love that.

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I want to ask you though, how like you got

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involved with recording, you got involved with getting records out

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there with bands and and and getting on stage, like

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what was your what was your way to do that? Like,

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how did you do that?

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The way we did that was well, well, when we

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when we released Laden this this CD right here, Laden

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Politics of Life, Okay, it goes And it was so

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expensive back in the day. I mean, you know, it

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was so expensive to be able to go in and

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record a CD. You know, to do the CD you

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had to you had to figure out how to how

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to record if you wanted to keep going you had

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to figure out in a less expensive way. So but

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then know as the as the new gear started coming

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out and it made it like easier to go buy

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a piece of gear and do it at home. We

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just started doing that a little bit at a time,

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poking around, learning from a you know, some some of

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my some of the best songs I recorded were done

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on a little roll in VSA and eighty. It's like

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as big as a it's so small and it's so

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packed with stuff. It was a long learning curve, but

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we had fun with it. I mean we really took

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everything we could out of it, and and that as

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far as that. And then you start learning a little

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bit of a time from your friends, Hey do this,

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this will help you. Hey, if you want to, if

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you want if you want your room to sound good

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when you're using mics. You just start learning everything from

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from your friends making mistakes and us making mistakes. And

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of course, now are you kidding on YouTube, it's like

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all the secrets and everything's right there. You really don't

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have to you know, you don't have to experiment. You

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can kind of like get an idea and then try that,

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see if that's what you like. But Yeah, it was.

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It was pretty It was pretty crazy when that whole

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thing started.

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And then making the connections. Did your brothers play with you,

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did your family help you make connections.

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Or did you kind of just know we all were

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on around? Yeah, we were all on around separately. My

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brother Andy, he was he was the hitchhiker of the

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family and he hitchhike everywhere he went, and no matter

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where he went. To Chicago, all the musical hotspots, he

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was so talented. All he would do is go there

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and show up at and the hottest club. They say, hey, man,

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can I son? And his name is Andy. By the way,

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he's not with us anymore, but he left the legacy

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behind for a lot of people in clubs all over

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the US. And he would go in there and be like, Hey,

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I just got off the bus. Can I can I

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jam a couple of songs? And they're like, who is

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this guy? You know? And he would get on the

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drums and he would be there for the rest of

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the night. Everybody knows anybody that knows him. So he

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made his own connection and I was doing my own thing.

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But I should have listened to him, because when he

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was in Los Angeles, you know when La even like

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when Guns and Roses came out, he was like, I

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know these guys are going to get signed. I'm telling

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you they're going to be the big thing. You should

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come out here, because he knew that I was writing

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and I was getting better at it, and he was

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trying to get me to go to LA. He goes,

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you need to go where the music's at to get discovered.

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And I and I I just didn't listen. See what

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you get for not listening? And then big bands myself, Well,

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I want to know about you.

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Regarding Andy, did he get to play with Guns n' Roses.

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And no, he just he just became friends with him,

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and he was in the as a matter of fact,

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when they got their record deal. He was he was

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at Guitar Center in LA and he was helping the

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drummer pick out his snare. He talked cool, he's you know,

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he's amazing. And but he played with a lot of

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famous people. I can't remember everybody. My mind doesn't work

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too but yes, he hung out with some of the greatest,

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some of the best. And yeah, have you do you.

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Have any specific role models that have influenced you that

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you got to meet and work with.

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No, not really, I just I was blessed to open

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up for a lot of the bands that I grew

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up listening to, Like where's my little list here? I

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don't kind of remember some of them. Some of them

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was like when I opened up for let's see, like

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the smither Rings was a good one that was in

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Tennessee State. I didn't know their music. And that's when

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A Girl Like You came out, which is a really

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good A girl like You. It was a really it

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was really hot, and we opened up for them. My gosh,

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I opened up. We opened up for a Fog had

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a couple of times. Fog had Night Ranger was a

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great show to open up in Jacksonville. And this was

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Laighton with Leyton. I opened up with him, then we

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opened up. We played at Freedom Vest in Jacksonville and

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we opened up for Travis Tritt and Alan Jackson, which

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and here we had like a medal. We were we

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were like a adult triple A whatever they call it,

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labeled it and we were opening up for them. We're like, hey,

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is this gonna work? Because you know these guys a

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country and we're like kind of like Rocks, Spandex. You know,

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stuff like that, and we had great time. It was

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excellent and we did a great job.

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What about I came out and I saw you guys

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in Abacoa when you were doing the Journey tribute band?

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Are you still doing?

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That's a whole chapter. You want to hear that chapter?

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Yeah, let's let's stort in there.

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Okay, okay, okay. Odyssey Road famous the most famous Journey

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tribute band ever because of our backgrounds, because we we

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all did cool stuff. I got a call from a

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keyboard player that I worked with on my musical. I

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wrote a musical called a Tense Symphony rock and roll Musical.

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And it's the reason why it's not finished right now

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and it's sitting there is because it takes a lot

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of money and it's just too expensive to do something

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like that on the air, and you have to have

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somebody that's going to help you out, you know, to

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what do you call that when you would shot when

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you work work it? But anyways, he worked on that

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with me and it was great, and uh he called

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me up. He goes, Bobby, what are you doing? I'm like, well,

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I just got out of who called you? Mike soper

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A keyboard player, a fantastic singer, and he's a vocal

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coach too. Shout out Michael Soper. And he called me

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up and said, you want to do a Journey tribute

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because I heard this guy sing and he's really good.

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I'm like, first of all, I said, what am I

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going to do? Because I've always front of my own band.

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It's always been me up front, singing lead and playing.

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And he said, well, we already have a guitar player,

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you have to play bass. I'm like, okay, and you

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sing backups. And I went, oh, okay. But but my mind,

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I'm fair about everything. My mind was always open and

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say don't don't shut it out. And I trusted him

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so much that we got together. I said let's try

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it out. We had our first rehearsal. We said, let's

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learn five songs. We played those five songs so well

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and that was it. That it was like a magic.

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When you have the right guys together and everybody puts

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in two hundred percent, it's a big difference. That is

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one key to success. As far as my success. From

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my first gig at the at the Little Theater, everybody

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put two hundred percent in laden everybody put two hundred

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percent in every every band I've been in. It's just

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like everybody puts everything in. There's no slacker, no slack

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and and Odyssey Road and Odyssey Road just took off.

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We just kept going and kept going, and we sounded great.

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And Bubba Bubba Sanderford who was the lead singer and

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people know him around town around this area. He runs

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sound and he's a funny person, a great person, and

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uh he he got the band gone. We started, I

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mean right out of the gate after we rehearsed like

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for a year solid. Our first gigs I think was

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like the Orange Bowl tailgate party. And after that then

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we got the South Florida Fair a tribute contest. We

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took that twice and then after that we just you

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know started doing our gigs. We went to Montana to Canada.

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Really good band. It's it's if you haven't seen us

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and you get a chance, we're really good. There's other Journey, yeah,

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Odyssey Road tribute to Journey, and we're more about honestly,

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I mean, we look cool and everything, but we don't

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have the really the really the Journey look. But we're

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we just have good attitude. Everybody's funny, we have good

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and we play our instruments well and we sing our

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asses off. There's there's three of us that are like

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lead singers in the band. Bubba's the lead singer, Michael

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Soaper the keyboard player I was telling you about, and myself,

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but the other guys sing backups too, and it's good.

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And let me while I'm here, we uh. Bubba said,

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you know what I think we should We should record

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all their hits. And we're like, dude, you can't do that.

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So he he did all the work and he got

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all the permissions for all the songs and we recorded.

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It's called uhs since Recaptured Odyssey Road and it's like

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their greatest hits and it's on iTunes and and right

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now we get over six million plays, I think so,

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and we're a it's a good band to go see

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and so can you.

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Okay, we're broadcasting live, so we're on television and we're

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on radio. So for our friends out there that aren't

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able to see us, okay, scroll going on on our screen.

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For those that are listening, how can they find that?

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Is it just E S S E n CE or

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how does that spell?

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Yeah? I don't even know how it is. I don't

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even know. I'm a terrible speller and I should have

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been more prepared. But if you look under Odyssey Road

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okay O d Y S S E Y Road Essence

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recaptured on iTunes, you can find that. And from what

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I hear it's been it's been used a lot on

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TikTok for some reason I don't know, and then some

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of the other places I don't know how, but it's cool. Yeah,

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So that's how you can find that tribute, you know,

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a Journey tribute band, and we'll show up Odyssey Road

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and that's another way to find us.

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No you guys, I'm sorry, go ahead, are you guys?

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Yes we are. We got a fourth of July gig.

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We play that every year. It's in Orlando somewhere, okay,

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and uh. And that's a fun gig. It's like a

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it's like a community, a golf community. Sure, and they

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rock it out. They're like, We're like, are you sure

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you want to have like this Journey tribute band. We

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got all the big sound system everything and everything like that.

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He goes, hell, yeah, So we went there and it

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was it was just so much fun. It was so

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much fun. People driving around their golf carts and listening

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to us and having a great time and meeting a

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lot of people. And what's good about this band is

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everybody's our age. You know, we're the we're the ones.

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We're all together and you know, back in the day

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when we used to go see Journey and everything, we

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remember and it was like, that's it. It just connects.

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That's so awesome. It's great now now to you guys,

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this is the hardest part for all musicians because I'm

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a musician too, so I kind of have my foot

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in the door and I know a little bit and

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I know that getting gigs and setting up the time

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and the the ongoing shows. Do you guys do that yourself?

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Do you have a manager? What's the secret?

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Well, right now are it's word of mouth. They call

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they know Bubba or the people you know, They say,

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where did you get these guys?

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You know?

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They say, just call James Sanderford or you know, go

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on Odyssey roadband dot com. So Odissey road band dot com.

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You can. You can find out more and book us

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through that. But we don't. We're not going through a

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book an agent yet because they everybody's different we're trying

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to find the right one because we're not that we're

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not easy to work with as far as usually when

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you do a band, you totally commit one to the

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the people that book you, the book and age. But

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we can't do that. We have it has to be

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a you know, Bubba gets a text, can you guys

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do this show? Then he texts all of us. We

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do it that way because because everybody is very professional

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and and this it's almost like it's kind of weird,

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but honestly wrote to us was it started out as

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a midlife crisis for everybody, like let's do something really

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big so we don't feel like we're getting old. It

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started out like that, and then it ended up being

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so good that the bigger, you know, the bigger uh

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what do you call him? The book and agents wand

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to pick us up. But Bubba's Bubba's very busy, and

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so is Brian and Michael. He's a vocal coach, so

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we have to we have to pick it, you know,

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gig by gig instead of being able to just like

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them tell us, oh you're going here, here, here, here, here,

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And we've done that a couple of times. We're playing

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in Virginia A couple up for truerra Winer where you

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played every year and that was great up in the

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in Virginia. And but that that's what we're doing right now.

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That's how we have to do it. So it's kind

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of like not normal. We're like, uh, Weekend Warrior Journey

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tribute band, but really really good and we get and

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we but we do get some really excellent, excellent I

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mean headlining gigs. One is like, we we got a call, Hey,

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it's a balloon festival in Louisiana, way out there, and

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it's you know, one hundred thousand. People were like, are

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you kidding me? So somebody through somebody knew and we

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went out there and I mean the stage is like

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a rolling stone stage. It's incredibly massively and we headlined

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that night that day, and it was incredible because we're

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sitting there playing, We're looking around all these balloons. We

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could hardly pay attention to our instruments seeing all these

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balloons taken off. And then from there we got other

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stuff and it goes like that. It's when people hear you,

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it's word of mouth and it just takes off because

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and and the people like yourself. It's very important for

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for like what you're doing, because like you said, it

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brings people attention to who's doing what. Hey, I was going,

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you know what we have? We have eight cats, and

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I'm like, how do I cack it on your show?

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Wait?

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There was one behind me? Yeah, but that that's that

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whole episode.

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Let me ask you, Bobby, that's interrupt you because I

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want to hear so much more so so we're people.

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We are people. We are you know, we're living, breathing,

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we have families. We most of us have a job

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that you know, gives us a consistent paycheck. There are

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so many musicians out there where they're like, I'm just

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going to quit my job and I'm just going to

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do music. But like my as a music teacher, I've

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been in music since I was five. My advice is like, well,

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don't don't really do that. You need to have something consistent. Yeah,

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that's one thing, but what's your take on that? And

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then I have another question to follow.

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Okay that that's a loaded question right now, because right

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now it's pretty tough. But on the other hand, if

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you excel and you're so good and you're a prodigy

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and you are like so amazing, You're the people around

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you will will lift you up. Yeah, I mean that's

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how it really, I mean honestly, because the people around me,

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they're like, you know, when things aren't going so good,

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you're like, Okay, what are we going to do? That's

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why I shifted. I went from one thing to the other.

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And it's and it's listening to the people around me,

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and they want they know that I'm going to hit one.

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I tell everybody I'm gonna knock one out of the

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park sooner or later. And I want to touch the

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sky one time. And you know, whether it's one hit,

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wonder I get a song on a big movie or something,

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you just you just you can feel it, you know,

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you know when it's time to take a chance. My particular,

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I'm married. I have a wonderful wife. She is she

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is amazing, amazing, Maria is so awesome. Everybody loves her.

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They see that. And it's not she doesn't just pay

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attention to me. She loves all my friends, she loves

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everybody around us where music and art people and and yeah,

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you'll know when it's time.

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You know.

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Sometimes sometimes when you're younger, you you know in your

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heart saying I need to try to go somewhere where

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the music is at to try and make it. And

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I've heard that a lot with like the Nashville thing

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girls or anybody going to Nashville and you say, and

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you say yourself, you know what I want to tell

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them If you go there, there's thousand people there as

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good as you, maybe even better. But but don't ruin

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her dreams. Go ahead, go for it. Now?

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What about I'm sorry, did I cut you? No? So

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what about the traveling part? Like, okay, we have to

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get on a plane or get on a bus or

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get in the car and go. So it's like consistent gigs.

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I mean you can drive on that. You'd thrive on

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that for so long. And as a musician, even speaking

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for myself, like you asked me to play, I'm there,

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I'm playing cool. However, you know there's there's life.

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Yeah.

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Also, so how do you how do you juggle that?

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I don't call it a struggle. I call it a juggle.

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How do you do?

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That's a nicer term for that, because yes, well you

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get used to it. And I'm glad I waited. I'm

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glad I waited until my age now because it was

463
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.319
easier to do because I was more focused on not

464
00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:52.359
getting in trouble not you know, because when you're younger

465
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:53.799
and you're out there trying to do it, like with

466
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.200
Out of Sea road and we started going like we

467
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.680
were away for like or four weeks a couple of

468
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.440
times a year, and you learn real fast, you know.

469
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:05.319
At first we were like, oh my god, oh my god.

470
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.759
But bought a bus. He bought this he bought this

471
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.519
old this bus from from from uh where was it

472
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.319
from Canada? It was old, it was. It was a

473
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.519
bus that was converted, uh for a camp or for

474
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.920
this guy to pull racing boats. And we bought that thing.

475
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:24.680
And he put the big journey logo on the side,

476
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.160
our journey logo, which is not the same as journeys.

477
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.720
But we were and we were all like, oh my god,

478
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.519
we're going on the road. But you'll learn really fast.

479
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:38.400
You learn fast about uh, being organized and trying not

480
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:41.599
thrown out of gas. You talk in the morning, especially

481
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.880
with a diesel engine. You meet people and you know,

482
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:48.359
you just you just learned so much. It's it's a

483
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.920
learning it's a learning curve. Where to eat, where not

484
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.720
to eat, what to bring, what not the bring. I mean,

485
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.000
I'm telling you, the first time we went on that bus,

486
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.039
it was so loaded with so much crap everything. It's like,

487
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.039
you know, and then after you're under you're like, god,

488
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.480
there's no place for me to sleep. You start learning

489
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:14.000
to to travel lightly only what you need, you know,

490
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:17.359
including clothes and everything. It's just it's it's it's a

491
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.200
learning it's a learning curve. But we don't do that

492
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:20.920
a lot now.

493
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.559
And what's been like your favorite place that other than

494
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.400
the place with the balloons? Is there another place that

495
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.480
you remember being like it made such an impact on

496
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:33.599
you that being.

497
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:38.799
There, Oh my gosh, they're they're they're all I think.

498
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:43.480
I think it's Terrera Winery. It's a winery, a winery

499
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:46.400
in Virginia. And they they're not there anymore. They just

500
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.240
they just sold it. But while they were while they

501
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.519
were in existence, while they were still doing the wine,

502
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.480
they had concerts series every summer, okay, and it was

503
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.680
off the charts, you know. You know, we would show

504
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.839
up there and do our show and it was always

505
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:05.400
like like it was journey playing and you know, it

506
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:10.839
was great and and everybody loved it. Up north, people,

507
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.839
you know, they really love their music when you start

508
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.200
going up. We played in Canada one time and it

509
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.960
was amazing. One of those islands and it was like

510
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.599
it was like a fair I mean, we had to

511
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.240
play and they said, were you guys playing a gas

512
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.880
limo and everything. We pulled up to this big fairgrounds

513
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.599
and they go, you guys are in there. So we

514
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:34.920
go in there and it's and it's all hey as horses,

515
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.920
you know, the big Clydesdale's, all the Clydesdale's going around

516
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.880
this like arena and we're looking at each other, going, hey,

517
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:46.519
we're supposed to be playing there, and there's all hey.

518
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:48.880
But they cleaned the whole place up in like twenty

519
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.079
minutes and next thing you know, there's a stage and everything.

520
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.880
It was. It was crazy, you know.

521
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.279
It sounds like fun though.

522
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.759
And the South Florida Fair was fun too. I mean

523
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:01.440
as far as special gigs, that was great because the

524
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:06.799
first year when we played the the during our during

525
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.440
our show, the system, something happened with the system and

526
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:15.000
the only thing that the audience could hear is our vocals.

527
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.960
And thank god, the all three of us are really good,

528
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.200
you know, the band has really good sing singers and

529
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.480
and it was like a capella for like almost a

530
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.079
whole song. And when when the sound came back on,

531
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.039
you can hear everybody like, yeah, that was great.

532
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.880
You guys are on the inside like, oh jeez.

533
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:36.799
Oh my god. You know that's the whole thing too,

534
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:39.599
when you're when you're playing a show and stuff's not working,

535
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.079
you got to smile and you got to pretend nothing's wrong. Yeah,

536
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.680
you know. We we just did a show at a

537
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.319
Constitution Park in Jupiter somewhere like that. And I'm out

538
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.920
there playing. Yes, yeah, I'm playing my butt off and

539
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.880
the band looks great. They have this amazing show. It's unbelievable.

540
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.079
And if you're looking at I mean, you couldn't tell.

541
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.079
I couldn't. I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear my bass

542
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.039
at all. So I was going. I was going by

543
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.440
memory muscle. You know most of the show, and you

544
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:14.759
get you get good at it, you learn how to

545
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:15.119
do it.

546
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.240
Yes, yes, fake it till you make it, Yes, till

547
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.559
you make it. So I want to go back. I

548
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.839
want to rewind a little bit, and going back to

549
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.240
Mustard Seed when you were working on the film with

550
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:33.440
with Michael elden Lop singer I forgot. I think I

551
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.079
had worked with Michael at Palm Beach Film School and

552
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.240
Literal Films with him, and that's how I know Michael.

553
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:41.839
And so that's how I got to meet you, and

554
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:49.079
paul and and Pauline and yes and and so how

555
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.400
how did you meet Michael? How did you get involved

556
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.720
with doing film score for him? And that?

557
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.400
Okay, it started out started out with the Mustard Seed

558
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:02.359
because a friend of ours, some friends Tom and Rachel Strifle,

559
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:04.960
they were they had a lot to do with the

560
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.039
city of David, which is the Christian city. They got

561
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.440
the band together, they funded that, they took care of

562
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.039
that and put that out there, and they also were

563
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.480
good friends with Michael, and every once in a while

564
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:20.000
she would say, Bobby, you guys got to get together

565
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.960
because he's so creative on the film thing, you're so

566
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.920
creative with the music. We got to get you together.

567
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.519
It's one of those stories. We finally got together and

568
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.480
we're like, well, you want to do you want to

569
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.720
do a music video? And he's like, okay, yeah, let's

570
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.039
try one. And I sent him all my songs and

571
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:42.119
he he texted Rachel back and me and he goes

572
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.039
Mustard Seed. It was a song I wrote for the

573
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.680
follow up of City David City, City of David CD,

574
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.319
and the band split up, so I had it laying around,

575
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.640
so I recorded in my studio and he loved that

576
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.440
song so much. He goes, this is gonna be like

577
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.519
an epic because it gave him the ability to show

578
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.960
what he was capable of. There are some shots in

579
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:11.240
there that are so amazingly planned out that the guy

580
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:15.480
must have been practicing. The camera angles and is where

581
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.240
he led for hours, I mean in his living room,

582
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.119
in his in his bedroom and outside.

583
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.680
What was the name of that film, I'm drawing a blank.

584
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:23.559
The Mustard Seed.

585
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:25.519
The film was The Mustard Seed Off.

586
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.039
Yeah, no, no, that wasn't That was a music video.

587
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.720
The Mustard Seed was a long music video that he

588
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:33.680
turned into like a film because there was like a

589
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.440
little beginning to it in the end, and then he

590
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.279
did a documentary on us working on it, and you

591
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.680
could see that that's kind of like the filmy part

592
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.720
of it. I see that, and you know, great ideas,

593
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.279
a lot of people helping it must It must have

594
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:53.640
been ninety eight degrees. It was bogging muddy out in

595
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:59.680
my friends Okachobe Mosquitos. I mean we we really we

596
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:03.880
were Oh god, it was crazy, but we we came through.

597
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.160
It was fun. We were making up stuff. Jason Land,

598
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:10.720
Jason Land, he's a filmmaker and and and he took

599
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.039
and he was learned from Michael. At first he was

600
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.160
one of his students. Now he's I wrote. I wrote

601
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.240
the music for the past three of his films, you know,

602
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:23.839
including mister Theme Music that is so funny and it's

603
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.200
so excellent and was so fun that and then okay,

604
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.680
yeah mister theme music. Yeah, as the name of the film.

605
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:34.519
Jason Land's a director and the writer. But let me

606
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.079
let me go forward now, Michael, So we did two

607
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.720
or three and then he's like, he's like, you know what,

608
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.160
I'm doing my first short film. It's a really good

609
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:48.839
I got the script ready. It's called Rotten Mangoes. We

610
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.599
didn't think about doing anything musically. He's like, man, we need,

611
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.799
we need, we need somebody on set for catering and

612
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.599
stuff like that. I'm in so so Marie and I

613
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.160
were like, were like so in because a friend of

614
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.440
ours was doing catering, Elaine Cohen. She taught me about

615
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.519
that and I did some for Disney, and it was fun.

616
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:10.559
But I said, you know what, sure it was in

617
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.079
Lake Worth. It wasn't too far and I know, I

618
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.360
know the ropes. I went and bought all the stuff

619
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.840
and then I showed up there, set up the station

620
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.840
and they filmed all night. Michael filmed one night a

621
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.480
week for like three months, and it was it was

622
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.519
crazy because we only had so much time to film

623
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:33.039
because it had to be quiet Dead's Quiet, and then

624
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.280
we had to hire security. It was it was a

625
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:39.920
real deal learning experience with him. And now while I

626
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.880
was there, of course I brought my acoustic, my little

627
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.679
Spanish guitar. By the time I was by the time

628
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.880
we were done with the second night, I had already

629
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.639
I didn't know it, but I started writing this song

630
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.199
and I was and I was listening to them with

631
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:56.760
the dialogue, and I was reading a script and I

632
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:00.400
wrote trying to Find Love and it was prett much

633
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:06.480
about the story. And now after after the film was

634
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.320
done finally in the can, we had another major problem.

635
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.480
The guys that he that he hired to do the

636
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:21.280
audio all the dialogue, the computer got stolen, so Michael

637
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.639
had no audio, no no dialogue for the whole film,

638
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:28.000
and then we went home, Like said, he has to

639
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:29.920
put it away. He goes, I'm gonna have to put

640
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:33.039
it on the shelf. And Maria, my wife, comes over

641
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.239
to me that night. She goes, you're gonna go in

642
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:39.119
the studio and you are going to do it. You're capable.

643
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.079
And I was like scared to death. I was scared

644
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.519
to death. I was so scared to death. And she said,

645
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.559
you can do it. I know you can do it.

646
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.480
I know you can do it. And I started shaking

647
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:53.039
and Rachel's like, Bobby, try it. And then I talked

648
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.599
to Mike and let says it's called a d R

649
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.880
Automatic Dialogue replacement or something like that. Yeah, And I

650
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.159
went crazy on YouTube, you know, eating, eating, eating junk food,

651
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:08.960
watching YouTube videos. How do you do this? How do you?

652
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.079
I got to get a I gotta get a projector.

653
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.199
So I set up a projector. I put it in

654
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:18.159
my studio and then we had everybody come in. I

655
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.719
set up the microphone. We had everybody come in that

656
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.760
played in it, and they watched it. We turned the

657
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:25.760
lights down, they watched their clip that we were going

658
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.800
to do the replacement, and then after they watched it,

659
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.800
we said, Okay, now we're going to play it again,

660
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.440
and I want you to say it, you know, just

661
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.519
do the ball. And we did it, and we nailed it.

662
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.199
We nailed everyone, and it was like a miracle. So

663
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.199
after we got after we got all that done, I

664
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.039
was already writing stuff Mike, Mike was by the time

665
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.840
we got down, we had two computers. I had my

666
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:52.519
music computer. Mike had his editing software to the right,

667
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.119
and he was sending me little clips. He goes, we

668
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.440
need music for this, and I go on there and

669
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.639
I put it on my timeline. Next thing I know,

670
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.840
I was banging them out and we did. I think

671
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:06.440
it was sixteen tracks. It was so much. It was

672
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:12.480
like independence movie magic. Yeah, And I knew then. I

673
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.480
knew then that I can do it. At first I

674
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.920
would be scared. But if somebody says I need to

675
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.840
do I mean even a big, full feature film, I'm ready.

676
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.280
I can take it out because I have friends to

677
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:28.719
help me. And that's how that ended up. And that's it.

678
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.280
And now and then he did a couple other music

679
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.119
videos for me and the new song, and now I'm

680
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:43.239
focusing on releasing this new song like really properly, you know,

681
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:47.000
And all the channels that you should use. And because

682
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:50.480
I'm trying to lock in, I'd like to be with

683
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:54.000
a music publisher, a well known music publisher, and try

684
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.719
to create some revenue that way. Then doing the streams,

685
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.159
you know, six million streams, you make fifty bucks. Like that,

686
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:03.920
I'm being you know, crazy.

687
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:07.039
But I have a couple of questions for you. So

688
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.440
you mentioned I cut you off earlier you mentioned Christian

689
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.119
music or a Christian band, and then I want to

690
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.280
get into this scrolling. I want to talk more about that.

691
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.239
But you had mentioned is it a Christian Christian music

692
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:19.880
that you're writing?

693
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:24.840
No, that I wrote that, I'm not doing any anymore. Okay,

694
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:26.840
but but God is still in my heart. I mean,

695
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.440
you know that's the whole thing. No matter, well, you're

696
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:33.880
you're made up of certain things. And city of David

697
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.519
self self done. I wrote one song on there called

698
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.000
which one that I write wrote to Paradise and uh

699
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:47.440
it was it was with I gotta remember everybody, David,

700
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.880
David Kyliss was was the main writer, and then it

701
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.280
was it was me and then Seneca McGrath and Bob

702
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.880
Bob gus four of us and we we went in

703
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.239
my studio and we just started record me songs. David

704
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.079
would come over and start playing him and I just

705
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.119
helped finish him off. We recorded most of the tracks

706
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:12.239
in my little studio in my backyard, and then we

707
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:16.039
had we had because we couldn't afford the real deal.

708
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:17.960
Like I said, you want to go in a real

709
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:21.440
studio record this, it probably would have been this is

710
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.159
no way. So we did it in my studio. But

711
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.000
we spent the money on having somebody. I think I

712
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.800
think he mixed like green Day, one of the Green

713
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.920
Day albums. I can't remember his name, but I'll say

714
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:40.719
this too. It really pays pay somebody to do stuff that.

715
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.239
That's what that's all they do, you know, pay for somebody.

716
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.119
You try to do it yourself, it's going to be

717
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:47.800
sound like you and then you're going to be so

718
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.280
hard on yourself it might not ever get out there.

719
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.440
So what we did and what we learned, and what

720
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.800
I learned is is I'll record all the tracks and

721
00:39:56.840 --> 00:40:00.440
get the song ready and then find somebody professional. You know,

722
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.280
I'm just somebody that does it all the time. Like

723
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:06.800
Bubba Sanderfert, he mixed a lot of my stuff. And

724
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:10.239
now now I really stepped up. And now I'm I

725
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:13.639
have one guy in Nashville doing some stuff for me,

726
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.960
a Songwriter's Paradise. His name is Stacy Hogan. And then

727
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:23.079
I have and Fort Lauderdale, Zach Ziskin, and he's an

728
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.360
incredible independent artist. And now he's working with some pretty

729
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.480
pretty good names. Arianna Grinde. He did a song for her,

730
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.280
and I said, you know what I said, I called

731
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.760
him up, Zach, let's try this do this song for me.

732
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.400
And he did, and that's coming up next. That's going

733
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:42.800
to be called a song called Stairs. But back to scrolling.

734
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:48.920
Now we're going into scout this show scrolling. Yes, I

735
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.719
realized that I was at it and I was addicted

736
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.280
to this, and you know why, because I'm like, I'm

737
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:58.360
not getting enough music done. What is going on? And

738
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:02.079
Marie is like, well, get off your phone, You're you're

739
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.719
before I go to bed, I'm sitting here doing the doom,

740
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:06.639
scrolling all this stuff. And I'm not all of that,

741
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.519
but everything seeing who's going because when you're an artist,

742
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.679
when you're an artist, you want to see all who

743
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.199
cares about what you're doing, who's texting you singing? I

744
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.239
like it and and I said I'm gonna write a

745
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.639
song about this, and I was. I was in my studio,

746
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.360
just putsing around with stuff, setting up some stuff, and

747
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:27.400
I come up with a rift, and I come up

748
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.880
with a I don't know if you can, I want to, well,

749
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.920
I'll play the riff. Can you hear that? So I'm

750
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.920
sitting there and I got this acoustic guitar and I go.

751
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:52.719
I'm like, wow, I'm like, this is really really cool gig,

752
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:54.679
a really cool riff.

753
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.320
And I'm like, but it sounds like like a maybe

754
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.199
a little bit of time pettious because I heard the

755
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.679
song done instantly and a lot of times in the

756
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.960
past five or six years, I automatically throw it away

757
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:10.480
because I don't want to sound like anybody else. I

758
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.679
try to sound like myself. But I started hurting myself

759
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.400
by that, and I said, you know what, no keep going.

760
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:21.320
So I finished the song and I started writing the

761
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.079
word scrolling and a first line. I feel like I'm

762
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.199
talking to myself again because a lot of times people

763
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.519
aren't paying attention. And that was a good opening line,

764
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.440
and that opening line made everything flow.

765
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.840
Now you mentioned it was it got released, and you

766
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.719
mentioned I didn't understand it something with Paul McCartney.

767
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:47.280
Oh. I love Paul McCarty. I love him so much.

768
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:49.800
When people say, well, who's the guy that you want

769
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.119
to be in a studio with, I would say Paul McCartney.

770
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:55.360
I mean, he's like the only person that I would

771
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:58.360
want to be, like in the studio with a whole

772
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:02.639
bunch of instruments because I'm a I'll take instrumentalists too, okay,

773
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.320
and Paul plays, you know, except I won't be able

774
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.519
to play his bass because he's left handed, or his guitar.

775
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.800
But but I feel that we could really do something.

776
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.559
And I have a couple of songs right now that

777
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.719
aren't released once called Dan's Balloon that I would love

778
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.719
for him. But the thing about Paul McCartney is his

779
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:25.199
new album dropped the same day as Scrolling, and I

780
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:28.679
was so happy about that. I'm like, I made it. Yeah,

781
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:33.039
I mean, having a song released the same professionally the

782
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.400
same day as is Paul McCartney.

783
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:37.079
Oh my god.

784
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.480
But you can probably.

785
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:43.039
Connect with his manager and shoot him a message just

786
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.000
because like we're all people. I mean, you know, it's

787
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.719
it's yeah, I'm sure he'd welcome it.

788
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.480
Yeah, And let's see And I released that song. I

789
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.199
spent a little bit of money on it, and like

790
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.320
I said, you have you have to invest in yourself. Yes,

791
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.880
I mean it costs me when to do it this way.

792
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.559
But what I did was I used a platform called

793
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:10.639
play m PE and they're a very very professional launch.

794
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.280
First you go like if you have CD Baby or

795
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.519
you have like distroke Kid, you have to have your

796
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.679
uh distributor, so you lock into one of those. And

797
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.360
then after you have it, after you have your drop

798
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:28.000
date ready right, you go to play MPE and you

799
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:29.800
and you have to you have to have a label.

800
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:33.960
That's the only thing. So that's what Bubba James, Bubba

801
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.159
Sandiford he he he actually went and opened up a

802
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.920
label so that way we could get a couple of

803
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.960
other songs out and that I've done previously. And label

804
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:51.360
is s s I Records, and uh, it'll say it

805
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:54.119
on the song. We did everything professionally, so if you

806
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:58.679
see it'll say you know he did it. So you

807
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.840
go on to play MPE and you put all the

808
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.199
information in there. I mean you literally have to write

809
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.360
the thing about the song. It's like a what do

810
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:11.000
you call that? Just a what would you call that?

811
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:16.559
Just the story behind a song. Yeah, and what day

812
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:20.800
it's gonna drop. Because play MPE are very important because

813
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.400
they they get the song, you give it to them,

814
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:29.119
and then three weeks before the song drops, they they

815
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:31.840
go boom and they send it to all the people

816
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:35.400
like yourself that you do these shows and stuff like

817
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.639
that you would start getting if you sign up for it,

818
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:41.079
you would be getting all the new stuff and an

819
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:43.679
email and then you can look at it yourself and say, hey,

820
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.519
let's check the song out. But it goes It goes

821
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:53.039
out the bloggers, it goes out to radio stations, terrestrial, FM, AM,

822
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.360
all those things, and you get to choose your your

823
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.760
like like your genre, you know, because sometimes you have

824
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:03.039
a crossover, so you have you have the song that

825
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:05.360
would do good in country and pop or something you

826
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:07.119
launch on both of them.

827
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:10.440
So I have to I'm sorry, I have to cut

828
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.239
you off. I could talk with you for another hour,

829
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:14.440
but we just have a couple of minutes left, and

830
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.920
I'm so glad that that we have this time to

831
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:22.599
talk and share. Yes, oh, I want to get one

832
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.159
of those shirts. I'll have to have to connect with

833
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:27.119
you so I can buy one of your one of

834
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:31.840
those shirts. Tell so last minute words. We want to

835
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.840
keep music alive, we want to keep the authenticity alive.

836
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.039
And I'm hoping to get a minute in that I

837
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.519
can play a little something and I don't. Okay, we'll

838
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:45.320
have that. But what last words for today in our show?

839
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.800
Would you mention to our audience as far as musicians

840
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.920
that are wanting to be where you're at, what would

841
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:56.639
be your your guidance or your words, your food for thought?

842
00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:01.280
Don't don't don't use AI try to write a song

843
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:05.719
without it. I mean, it's inevitable, it's it's, it's it's

844
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.559
it's a big problem for me. It is a very problem.

845
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.039
I don't like it at all, But just try to

846
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.840
do it. No, No, exercise your brain. I'm not saying

847
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.639
don't do it because people use it for tools. If

848
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:18.239
you use it for tools, to me, you're not a

849
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:22.599
songwriter if you use it at all. But but use

850
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.920
your brain and how to use your friends?

851
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:29.159
How do people connect with you? Those are the audience

852
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.599
out there that's listening. And I'm sorry to my audience,

853
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.320
is not going to be able to play for you today,

854
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.480
but I will pick it up next week. No, I

855
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.639
can play the last minute, but how do we, how

856
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:41.920
do we? How do we connect with you?

857
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.320
Oh my god, I never I haven't even thought of that.

858
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:50.119
So so through my Facebook. I don't even know what

859
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.679
it's called though. How do I Can I send you

860
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.000
a link or something? Yeah?

861
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:57.760
Can you spell your last name for our audience?

862
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:02.480
Okay, okay, my name is Robert Galusa. Last name g

863
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:08.239
U g l i u z z A. It's a

864
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:13.239
long Italian name. And I know I did everything so hard.

865
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:15.519
I want to get out there and get somewhere, but

866
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.639
I chose the last name. Oh my god, how are

867
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:23.039
they going to remember? Thank you so much?

868
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:27.239
Yes, thank you, Bobby, and I love to Maria and

869
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.280
we will be in touch. Okay, And for my audience

870
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.480
out there, tune next week to find out who my

871
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:36.079
next special guest is. I'm always so excited.

872
00:48:37.079 --> 00:49:09.280
Strolling. It's great.