The Sound of Gold with guest Bobby Gugliuzza

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0:51 Hi, and welcome to the Sound of Gold. If you've been here before, welcome back. If you're new, Welcome. My show is based on music and everything that has to do with music, musicians, music venues, music teachers, music schools. I'm here broadcasting out of my live obviously out of my studio in my music studio at home, and I'm here at my piano and other than radio show host, I'm a music teacher. I love to teach and work with my students learning how to read music and play piano and music theory. And why I do this show is I have this great passion for connecting with people and especially musicians. We have so many artists and talent in our environment, in our communities, all around us all the time, and you know what, we don't get the recognition or the acknowledgment that we deserve, and so I am that voice to say, hey, we want to be noticed, we want attention because we have something to share with the world. It's not a personal selfish like, oh I need to be acknowledged. It's more like I have a gift to give you, and music is a gift. Music is healing, Music is world language. It's it brings us together in unity, and it's just such a Personally. I prefer the piano because it's my favorite instrument and I teach it, but there are lots of instruments and lots

2:23 of musicians that play different types of music, different type of instruments, and it's all, like I said, worldwide, we speak that same language in unity. You know, every week when I have a show, I don't ever say who my next guest is going to be for the next week because I hope that you continue to tune in to find out. I believe every guest that I have on my show is so special and so talented. And I have a friend of mine. I know him and his wife many many years, and I'm so privileged and honored to invite my friend on the show today. Bobby.

3:03 G Bobby, I know you're sitting backstage. Come on, come on, come on down and join me. I'm here. Hey, aw, thanks thanks for having me. You're welcome. And Bobby, I don't know if you've listened to my show before my other than what I mentioned having you on my show. You are my. Star guest and you are so talented and we met we met through Michael elden Lop singer. Well, you guys are working on mustard Seed. Wow. That's a classic now, yes, and. That was on a film. So that was film score that you guys did back.

3:43 Back in Oh gosh, I can't remember how unny. I don't even know. Usually Mike listens to this stuff and he starts texting me it was two thousand. Because you haven't talked to you in a while. I love him. I miss him so much. He's awesome. So Bobby, tell us a little bit about your I want to hear about the film score stuff and how you got into that. And so this is my audience, but for an audience who is like new to the music world and wants to get more involved, Like, what's been your journey? What has gotten you to where you are today? Oh? God, just when I was fifteen years old, like fourteen fifteen, I wanted to play music. I knew it.

4:25 And my dad's a jazz drummer. He was a jazz drummer and so you know, watching him play, and he used to take us to a couple of his jazz gigs and then we'd be just sitting there trying to, you know, be kids, and we just got we got hooked. We knew it. And the music, the music flows through our blood, all of us kids, and it's just it's like magic. And we just knew we were all going to be musicians. And so I wanted to play the guitar because my other brothers were playing drums and I'm like, no, I'm not going to be a drummer. I want to do something else. So I got got into the guitar and fifteen. The next thing I know, I was I was playing covers, you know. And this was when I was living in outside of Buffalo, New York, and a little place called Lockport. It's it's a very cool place.

5:15 And I got a couple of bands there and I won we won a talent show at the local theater and it was and it was so amazing. It felt so good that that that, you know, it was my first you know example of like working really hard, practicing and seeing something come out of it. That's like just amazing. And then from there I started playing in other bands and then then we opened up for a national act up there. But then I moved down to Florida and started playing down here in West Palm Beach. And next thing I know, I had a band called Leyden. It was an original band and we and we did that was an ninety eight I think we released a record that did like two thousand copies. We still like two thousand copies, and it was it was like it was a really good record. It was it was like a little bit of progressive rock and a bunch of stuff.

6:15 And I wrote a lot of political stuff as far as what was going on in the world. I wrote about your music, your. Music, yeah, yeah. And then and then after that, I just kept writing. I just kept writing and did like five or six things. I have all the CDs here. I'll let you guys see them. I got them so I can so you guys can check them out. And I don't know, I don't I don't want to miss anything, but I got so much where was I? Okay? Then after that? Then after that I joined a Christian band. Hello, let me interpt me. So like, for us musicians out there that are not where you're at, right, what would you like? Times are different now? You know, there's so much more technology in so many ways. It makes it easier, but then it takes away from the authenticity of the real you know, the real thing. But I mean, who's to say it?

7:04 Whats better? What's worse? I believe in the instrument itself. Yeah, writing without AI destiny personally, I'm not thank you. I love that. I want to ask you though, how like you got involved with recording, you got involved with getting records out there with bands and and and getting on stage, like what was your what was your way to do that? Like, how did you do that? The way we did that was well, well, when we when we released Laden this this CD right here, Laden Politics of Life, Okay, it goes And it was so expensive back in the day. I mean, you know, it was so expensive to be able to go in and record a CD. You know, to do the CD you had to you had to figure out how to how to record if you wanted to keep going you had to figure out in a less expensive way. So but then know as the as the new gear started coming out and it made it like easier to go buy a piece of gear and do it at home. We just started doing that a little bit at a time, poking around, learning from a you know, some some of my some of the best songs I recorded were done on a little roll in VSA and eighty. It's like as big as a it's so small and it's so packed with stuff. It was a long learning curve, but we had fun with it. I mean we really took everything we could out of it, and and that as far as that. And then you start learning a little bit of a time from your friends, Hey do this, this will help you. Hey, if you want to, if

8:37 you want if you want your room to sound good when you're using mics. You just start learning everything from from your friends making mistakes and us making mistakes. And of course, now are you kidding on YouTube, it's like all the secrets and everything's right there. You really don't have to you know, you don't have to experiment. You can kind of like get an idea and then try that, see if that's what you like. But Yeah, it was. It was pretty It was pretty crazy when that whole thing started. And then making the connections. Did your brothers play with you, did your family help you make connections. Or did you kind of just know we all were on around? Yeah, we were all on around separately. My brother Andy, he was he was the hitchhiker of the family and he hitchhike everywhere he went, and no matter where he went. To Chicago, all the musical hotspots, he was so talented. All he would do is go there and show up at and the hottest club. They say, hey, man, can I son? And his name is Andy. By the way, he's not with us anymore, but he left the legacy behind for a lot of people in clubs all over the US. And he would go in there and be like, Hey, I just got off the bus. Can I can I jam a couple of songs? And they're like, who is this guy? You know? And he would get on the drums and he would be there for the rest of the night. Everybody knows anybody that knows him. So he made his own connection and I was doing my own thing.

10:03 But I should have listened to him, because when he was in Los Angeles, you know when La even like when Guns and Roses came out, he was like, I know these guys are going to get signed. I'm telling you they're going to be the big thing. You should come out here, because he knew that I was writing and I was getting better at it, and he was trying to get me to go to LA. He goes, you need to go where the music's at to get discovered. And I and I I just didn't listen. See what you get for not listening? And then big bands myself, Well, I want to know about you. Regarding Andy, did he get to play with Guns n' Roses.

10:44 And no, he just he just became friends with him, and he was in the as a matter of fact, when they got their record deal. He was he was at Guitar Center in LA and he was helping the drummer pick out his snare. He talked cool, he's you know, he's amazing. And but he played with a lot of famous people. I can't remember everybody. My mind doesn't work too but yes, he hung out with some of the greatest, some of the best. And yeah, have you do you. Have any specific role models that have influenced you that you got to meet and work with. No, not really, I just I was blessed to open up for a lot of the bands that I grew up listening to, Like where's my little list here? I don't kind of remember some of them. Some of them was like when I opened up for let's see, like the smither Rings was a good one that was in Tennessee State. I didn't know their music. And that's when A Girl Like You came out, which is a really good A girl like You. It was a really it was really hot, and we opened up for them. My gosh, I opened up. We opened up for a Fog had a couple of times. Fog had Night Ranger was a great show to open up in Jacksonville. And this was Laighton with Leyton. I opened up with him, then we opened up. We played at Freedom Vest in Jacksonville and we opened up for Travis Tritt and Alan Jackson, which

12:15 and here we had like a medal. We were we were like a adult triple A whatever they call it, labeled it and we were opening up for them. We're like, hey, is this gonna work? Because you know these guys a country and we're like kind of like Rocks, Spandex. You know, stuff like that, and we had great time. It was excellent and we did a great job. What about I came out and I saw you guys in Abacoa when you were doing the Journey tribute band? Are you still doing? That's a whole chapter. You want to hear that chapter? Yeah, let's let's stort in there. Okay, okay, okay. Odyssey Road famous the most famous Journey tribute band ever because of our backgrounds, because we we all did cool stuff. I got a call from a keyboard player that I worked with on my musical. I wrote a musical called a Tense Symphony rock and roll Musical.

13:10 And it's the reason why it's not finished right now and it's sitting there is because it takes a lot of money and it's just too expensive to do something like that on the air, and you have to have somebody that's going to help you out, you know, to what do you call that when you would shot when you work work it? But anyways, he worked on that with me and it was great, and uh he called me up. He goes, Bobby, what are you doing? I'm like, well, I just got out of who called you? Mike soper A keyboard player, a fantastic singer, and he's a vocal coach too. Shout out Michael Soper. And he called me up and said, you want to do a Journey tribute because I heard this guy sing and he's really good.

13:55 I'm like, first of all, I said, what am I going to do? Because I've always front of my own band. It's always been me up front, singing lead and playing. And he said, well, we already have a guitar player, you have to play bass. I'm like, okay, and you sing backups. And I went, oh, okay. But but my mind, I'm fair about everything. My mind was always open and say don't don't shut it out. And I trusted him so much that we got together. I said let's try it out. We had our first rehearsal. We said, let's learn five songs. We played those five songs so well and that was it. That it was like a magic. When you have the right guys together and everybody puts in two hundred percent, it's a big difference. That is one key to success. As far as my success. From my first gig at the at the Little Theater, everybody put two hundred percent in laden everybody put two hundred percent in every every band I've been in. It's just like everybody puts everything in. There's no slacker, no slack and and Odyssey Road and Odyssey Road just took off.

15:04 We just kept going and kept going, and we sounded great. And Bubba Bubba Sanderford who was the lead singer and people know him around town around this area. He runs sound and he's a funny person, a great person, and uh he he got the band gone. We started, I mean right out of the gate after we rehearsed like for a year solid. Our first gigs I think was like the Orange Bowl tailgate party. And after that then we got the South Florida Fair a tribute contest. We took that twice and then after that we just you know started doing our gigs. We went to Montana to Canada.

15:47 Really good band. It's it's if you haven't seen us and you get a chance, we're really good. There's other Journey, yeah, Odyssey Road tribute to Journey, and we're more about honestly, I mean, we look cool and everything, but we don't have the really the really the Journey look. But we're we just have good attitude. Everybody's funny, we have good and we play our instruments well and we sing our asses off. There's there's three of us that are like lead singers in the band. Bubba's the lead singer, Michael Soaper the keyboard player I was telling you about, and myself, but the other guys sing backups too, and it's good. And let me while I'm here, we uh. Bubba said, you know what I think we should We should record all their hits. And we're like, dude, you can't do that.

16:35 So he he did all the work and he got all the permissions for all the songs and we recorded. It's called uhs since Recaptured Odyssey Road and it's like their greatest hits and it's on iTunes and and right now we get over six million plays, I think so, and we're a it's a good band to go see and so can you. Okay, we're broadcasting live, so we're on television and we're on radio. So for our friends out there that aren't able to see us, okay, scroll going on on our screen. For those that are listening, how can they find that? Is it just E S S E n CE or how does that spell?

17:19 Yeah? I don't even know how it is. I don't even know. I'm a terrible speller and I should have been more prepared. But if you look under Odyssey Road okay O d Y S S E Y Road Essence recaptured on iTunes, you can find that. And from what I hear it's been it's been used a lot on TikTok for some reason I don't know, and then some of the other places I don't know how, but it's cool. Yeah, So that's how you can find that tribute, you know, a Journey tribute band, and we'll show up Odyssey Road and that's another way to find us. No you guys, I'm sorry, go ahead, are you guys?

18:01 Yes we are. We got a fourth of July gig. We play that every year. It's in Orlando somewhere, okay, and uh. And that's a fun gig. It's like a it's like a community, a golf community. Sure, and they rock it out. They're like, We're like, are you sure you want to have like this Journey tribute band. We got all the big sound system everything and everything like that. He goes, hell, yeah, So we went there and it was it was just so much fun. It was so much fun. People driving around their golf carts and listening to us and having a great time and meeting a lot of people. And what's good about this band is everybody's our age. You know, we're the we're the ones.

18:46 We're all together and you know, back in the day when we used to go see Journey and everything, we remember and it was like, that's it. It just connects. That's so awesome. It's great now now to you guys, this is the hardest part for all musicians because I'm a musician too, so I kind of have my foot in the door and I know a little bit and I know that getting gigs and setting up the time and the the ongoing shows. Do you guys do that yourself? Do you have a manager? What's the secret? Well, right now are it's word of mouth. They call they know Bubba or the people you know, They say, where did you get these guys?

19:26 You know? They say, just call James Sanderford or you know, go on Odyssey roadband dot com. So Odissey road band dot com. You can. You can find out more and book us through that. But we don't. We're not going through a book an agent yet because they everybody's different we're trying to find the right one because we're not that we're not easy to work with as far as usually when you do a band, you totally commit one to the the people that book you, the book and age. But we can't do that. We have it has to be a you know, Bubba gets a text, can you guys do this show? Then he texts all of us. We do it that way because because everybody is very professional and and this it's almost like it's kind of weird, but honestly wrote to us was it started out as a midlife crisis for everybody, like let's do something really big so we don't feel like we're getting old. It started out like that, and then it ended up being so good that the bigger, you know, the bigger uh what do you call him? The book and agents wand to pick us up. But Bubba's Bubba's very busy, and so is Brian and Michael. He's a vocal coach, so we have to we have to pick it, you know, gig by gig instead of being able to just like them tell us, oh you're going here, here, here, here, here, And we've done that a couple of times. We're playing in Virginia A couple up for truerra Winer where you

20:57 played every year and that was great up in the in Virginia. And but that that's what we're doing right now. That's how we have to do it. So it's kind of like not normal. We're like, uh, Weekend Warrior Journey tribute band, but really really good and we get and we but we do get some really excellent, excellent I mean headlining gigs. One is like, we we got a call, Hey, it's a balloon festival in Louisiana, way out there, and it's you know, one hundred thousand. People were like, are you kidding me? So somebody through somebody knew and we went out there and I mean the stage is like a rolling stone stage. It's incredibly massively and we headlined that night that day, and it was incredible because we're sitting there playing, We're looking around all these balloons. We could hardly pay attention to our instruments seeing all these balloons taken off. And then from there we got other stuff and it goes like that. It's when people hear you, it's word of mouth and it just takes off because and and the people like yourself. It's very important for for like what you're doing, because like you said, it brings people attention to who's doing what. Hey, I was going, you know what we have? We have eight cats, and I'm like, how do I cack it on your show?

22:26 Wait? There was one behind me? Yeah, but that that's that whole episode. Let me ask you, Bobby, that's interrupt you because I want to hear so much more so so we're people. We are people. We are you know, we're living, breathing, we have families. We most of us have a job that you know, gives us a consistent paycheck. There are so many musicians out there where they're like, I'm just going to quit my job and I'm just going to do music. But like my as a music teacher, I've been in music since I was five. My advice is like, well, don't don't really do that. You need to have something consistent. Yeah, that's one thing, but what's your take on that? And then I have another question to follow.

23:14 Okay that that's a loaded question right now, because right now it's pretty tough. But on the other hand, if you excel and you're so good and you're a prodigy and you are like so amazing, You're the people around you will will lift you up. Yeah, I mean that's how it really, I mean honestly, because the people around me, they're like, you know, when things aren't going so good, you're like, Okay, what are we going to do? That's why I shifted. I went from one thing to the other. And it's and it's listening to the people around me, and they want they know that I'm going to hit one. I tell everybody I'm gonna knock one out of the park sooner or later. And I want to touch the sky one time. And you know, whether it's one hit, wonder I get a song on a big movie or something, you just you just you can feel it, you know, you know when it's time to take a chance. My particular, I'm married. I have a wonderful wife. She is she is amazing, amazing, Maria is so awesome. Everybody loves her.

24:16 They see that. And it's not she doesn't just pay attention to me. She loves all my friends, she loves everybody around us where music and art people and and yeah, you'll know when it's time. You know. Sometimes sometimes when you're younger, you you know in your heart saying I need to try to go somewhere where the music is at to try and make it. And I've heard that a lot with like the Nashville thing girls or anybody going to Nashville and you say, and you say yourself, you know what I want to tell them If you go there, there's thousand people there as good as you, maybe even better. But but don't ruin her dreams. Go ahead, go for it. Now?

25:02 What about I'm sorry, did I cut you? No? So what about the traveling part? Like, okay, we have to get on a plane or get on a bus or get in the car and go. So it's like consistent gigs. I mean you can drive on that. You'd thrive on that for so long. And as a musician, even speaking for myself, like you asked me to play, I'm there, I'm playing cool. However, you know there's there's life. Yeah. Also, so how do you how do you juggle that? I don't call it a struggle. I call it a juggle. How do you do? That's a nicer term for that, because yes, well you get used to it. And I'm glad I waited. I'm glad I waited until my age now because it was easier to do because I was more focused on not getting in trouble not you know, because when you're younger and you're out there trying to do it, like with Out of Sea road and we started going like we were away for like or four weeks a couple of times a year, and you learn real fast, you know.

26:02 At first we were like, oh my god, oh my god. But bought a bus. He bought this he bought this old this bus from from from uh where was it from Canada? It was old, it was. It was a bus that was converted, uh for a camp or for this guy to pull racing boats. And we bought that thing. And he put the big journey logo on the side, our journey logo, which is not the same as journeys. But we were and we were all like, oh my god, we're going on the road. But you'll learn really fast. You learn fast about uh, being organized and trying not thrown out of gas. You talk in the morning, especially with a diesel engine. You meet people and you know, you just you just learned so much. It's it's a learning it's a learning curve. Where to eat, where not to eat, what to bring, what not the bring. I mean, I'm telling you, the first time we went on that bus, it was so loaded with so much crap everything. It's like, you know, and then after you're under you're like, god, there's no place for me to sleep. You start learning to to travel lightly only what you need, you know, including clothes and everything. It's just it's it's it's a learning it's a learning curve. But we don't do that a lot now.

27:22 And what's been like your favorite place that other than the place with the balloons? Is there another place that you remember being like it made such an impact on you that being. There, Oh my gosh, they're they're they're all I think. I think it's Terrera Winery. It's a winery, a winery in Virginia. And they they're not there anymore. They just they just sold it. But while they were while they were in existence, while they were still doing the wine, they had concerts series every summer, okay, and it was off the charts, you know. You know, we would show up there and do our show and it was always like like it was journey playing and you know, it was great and and everybody loved it. Up north, people, you know, they really love their music when you start going up. We played in Canada one time and it was amazing. One of those islands and it was like it was like a fair I mean, we had to play and they said, were you guys playing a gas limo and everything. We pulled up to this big fairgrounds and they go, you guys are in there. So we go in there and it's and it's all hey as horses, you know, the big Clydesdale's, all the Clydesdale's going around this like arena and we're looking at each other, going, hey, we're supposed to be playing there, and there's all hey.

28:46 But they cleaned the whole place up in like twenty minutes and next thing you know, there's a stage and everything. It was. It was crazy, you know. It sounds like fun though. And the South Florida Fair was fun too. I mean as far as special gigs, that was great because the first year when we played the the during our during our show, the system, something happened with the system and the only thing that the audience could hear is our vocals. And thank god, the all three of us are really good, you know, the band has really good sing singers and and it was like a capella for like almost a whole song. And when when the sound came back on, you can hear everybody like, yeah, that was great.

29:32 You guys are on the inside like, oh jeez. Oh my god. You know that's the whole thing too, when you're when you're playing a show and stuff's not working, you got to smile and you got to pretend nothing's wrong. Yeah, you know. We we just did a show at a Constitution Park in Jupiter somewhere like that. And I'm out there playing. Yes, yeah, I'm playing my butt off and the band looks great. They have this amazing show. It's unbelievable. And if you're looking at I mean, you couldn't tell. I couldn't. I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear my bass at all. So I was going. I was going by memory muscle. You know most of the show, and you get you get good at it, you learn how to do it.

30:15 Yes, yes, fake it till you make it, Yes, till you make it. So I want to go back. I want to rewind a little bit, and going back to Mustard Seed when you were working on the film with with Michael elden Lop singer I forgot. I think I had worked with Michael at Palm Beach Film School and Literal Films with him, and that's how I know Michael. And so that's how I got to meet you, and paul and and Pauline and yes and and so how how did you meet Michael? How did you get involved with doing film score for him? And that? Okay, it started out started out with the Mustard Seed because a friend of ours, some friends Tom and Rachel Strifle, they were they had a lot to do with the city of David, which is the Christian city. They got the band together, they funded that, they took care of that and put that out there, and they also were good friends with Michael, and every once in a while she would say, Bobby, you guys got to get together because he's so creative on the film thing, you're so creative with the music. We got to get you together.

31:26 It's one of those stories. We finally got together and we're like, well, you want to do you want to do a music video? And he's like, okay, yeah, let's try one. And I sent him all my songs and he he texted Rachel back and me and he goes Mustard Seed. It was a song I wrote for the follow up of City David City, City of David CD, and the band split up, so I had it laying around, so I recorded in my studio and he loved that song so much. He goes, this is gonna be like an epic because it gave him the ability to show what he was capable of. There are some shots in there that are so amazingly planned out that the guy must have been practicing. The camera angles and is where he led for hours, I mean in his living room, in his in his bedroom and outside.

32:20 What was the name of that film, I'm drawing a blank. The Mustard Seed. The film was The Mustard Seed Off. Yeah, no, no, that wasn't That was a music video. The Mustard Seed was a long music video that he turned into like a film because there was like a little beginning to it in the end, and then he did a documentary on us working on it, and you could see that that's kind of like the filmy part of it. I see that, and you know, great ideas, a lot of people helping it must It must have been ninety eight degrees. It was bogging muddy out in my friends Okachobe Mosquitos. I mean we we really we were Oh god, it was crazy, but we we came through.

33:04 It was fun. We were making up stuff. Jason Land, Jason Land, he's a filmmaker and and and he took and he was learned from Michael. At first he was one of his students. Now he's I wrote. I wrote the music for the past three of his films, you know, including mister Theme Music that is so funny and it's so excellent and was so fun that and then okay, yeah mister theme music. Yeah, as the name of the film. Jason Land's a director and the writer. But let me let me go forward now, Michael, So we did two or three and then he's like, he's like, you know what, I'm doing my first short film. It's a really good I got the script ready. It's called Rotten Mangoes. We didn't think about doing anything musically. He's like, man, we need, we need, we need somebody on set for catering and stuff like that. I'm in so so Marie and I were like, were like so in because a friend of ours was doing catering, Elaine Cohen. She taught me about that and I did some for Disney, and it was fun.

34:08 But I said, you know what, sure it was in Lake Worth. It wasn't too far and I know, I know the ropes. I went and bought all the stuff and then I showed up there, set up the station and they filmed all night. Michael filmed one night a week for like three months, and it was it was crazy because we only had so much time to film because it had to be quiet Dead's Quiet, and then we had to hire security. It was it was a real deal learning experience with him. And now while I was there, of course I brought my acoustic, my little Spanish guitar. By the time I was by the time we were done with the second night, I had already I didn't know it, but I started writing this song and I was and I was listening to them with the dialogue, and I was reading a script and I wrote trying to Find Love and it was prett much about the story. And now after after the film was done finally in the can, we had another major problem.

35:11 The guys that he that he hired to do the audio all the dialogue, the computer got stolen, so Michael had no audio, no no dialogue for the whole film, and then we went home, Like said, he has to put it away. He goes, I'm gonna have to put it on the shelf. And Maria, my wife, comes over to me that night. She goes, you're gonna go in the studio and you are going to do it. You're capable. And I was like scared to death. I was scared to death. I was so scared to death. And she said, you can do it. I know you can do it. I know you can do it. And I started shaking and Rachel's like, Bobby, try it. And then I talked to Mike and let says it's called a d R Automatic Dialogue replacement or something like that. Yeah, And I went crazy on YouTube, you know, eating, eating, eating junk food, watching YouTube videos. How do you do this? How do you?

36:09 I got to get a I gotta get a projector. So I set up a projector. I put it in my studio and then we had everybody come in. I set up the microphone. We had everybody come in that played in it, and they watched it. We turned the lights down, they watched their clip that we were going to do the replacement, and then after they watched it, we said, Okay, now we're going to play it again, and I want you to say it, you know, just do the ball. And we did it, and we nailed it. We nailed everyone, and it was like a miracle. So after we got after we got all that done, I was already writing stuff Mike, Mike was by the time we got down, we had two computers. I had my music computer. Mike had his editing software to the right, and he was sending me little clips. He goes, we need music for this, and I go on there and I put it on my timeline. Next thing I know, I was banging them out and we did. I think it was sixteen tracks. It was so much. It was like independence movie magic. Yeah, And I knew then. I knew then that I can do it. At first I would be scared. But if somebody says I need to do I mean even a big, full feature film, I'm ready.

37:22 I can take it out because I have friends to help me. And that's how that ended up. And that's it. And now and then he did a couple other music videos for me and the new song, and now I'm focusing on releasing this new song like really properly, you know, And all the channels that you should use. And because I'm trying to lock in, I'd like to be with a music publisher, a well known music publisher, and try to create some revenue that way. Then doing the streams, you know, six million streams, you make fifty bucks. Like that, I'm being you know, crazy.

38:03 But I have a couple of questions for you. So you mentioned I cut you off earlier you mentioned Christian music or a Christian band, and then I want to get into this scrolling. I want to talk more about that. But you had mentioned is it a Christian Christian music that you're writing? No, that I wrote that, I'm not doing any anymore. Okay, but but God is still in my heart. I mean, you know that's the whole thing. No matter, well, you're you're made up of certain things. And city of David self self done. I wrote one song on there called which one that I write wrote to Paradise and uh it was it was with I gotta remember everybody, David, David Kyliss was was the main writer, and then it was it was me and then Seneca McGrath and Bob Bob gus four of us and we we went in my studio and we just started record me songs. David would come over and start playing him and I just helped finish him off. We recorded most of the tracks in my little studio in my backyard, and then we had we had because we couldn't afford the real deal.

39:16 Like I said, you want to go in a real studio record this, it probably would have been this is no way. So we did it in my studio. But we spent the money on having somebody. I think I think he mixed like green Day, one of the Green Day albums. I can't remember his name, but I'll say this too. It really pays pay somebody to do stuff that. That's what that's all they do, you know, pay for somebody. You try to do it yourself, it's going to be sound like you and then you're going to be so hard on yourself it might not ever get out there. So what we did and what we learned, and what I learned is is I'll record all the tracks and get the song ready and then find somebody professional. You know, I'm just somebody that does it all the time. Like Bubba Sanderfert, he mixed a lot of my stuff. And now now I really stepped up. And now I'm I have one guy in Nashville doing some stuff for me, a Songwriter's Paradise. His name is Stacy Hogan. And then I have and Fort Lauderdale, Zach Ziskin, and he's an incredible independent artist. And now he's working with some pretty pretty good names. Arianna Grinde. He did a song for her, and I said, you know what I said, I called him up, Zach, let's try this do this song for me.

40:36 And he did, and that's coming up next. That's going to be called a song called Stairs. But back to scrolling. Now we're going into scout this show scrolling. Yes, I realized that I was at it and I was addicted to this, and you know why, because I'm like, I'm not getting enough music done. What is going on? And Marie is like, well, get off your phone, You're you're before I go to bed, I'm sitting here doing the doom, scrolling all this stuff. And I'm not all of that, but everything seeing who's going because when you're an artist, when you're an artist, you want to see all who cares about what you're doing, who's texting you singing? I like it and and I said I'm gonna write a song about this, and I was. I was in my studio, just putsing around with stuff, setting up some stuff, and I come up with a rift, and I come up with a I don't know if you can, I want to, well, I'll play the riff. Can you hear that? So I'm sitting there and I got this acoustic guitar and I go.

41:44 I'm like, wow, I'm like, this is really really cool gig, a really cool riff. And I'm like, but it sounds like like a maybe a little bit of time pettious because I heard the song done instantly and a lot of times in the past five or six years, I automatically throw it away because I don't want to sound like anybody else. I try to sound like myself. But I started hurting myself by that, and I said, you know what, no keep going. So I finished the song and I started writing the word scrolling and a first line. I feel like I'm talking to myself again because a lot of times people aren't paying attention. And that was a good opening line, and that opening line made everything flow.

42:35 Now you mentioned it was it got released, and you mentioned I didn't understand it something with Paul McCartney. Oh. I love Paul McCarty. I love him so much. When people say, well, who's the guy that you want to be in a studio with, I would say Paul McCartney. I mean, he's like the only person that I would want to be, like in the studio with a whole bunch of instruments because I'm a I'll take instrumentalists too, okay, and Paul plays, you know, except I won't be able to play his bass because he's left handed, or his guitar. But but I feel that we could really do something. And I have a couple of songs right now that aren't released once called Dan's Balloon that I would love for him. But the thing about Paul McCartney is his new album dropped the same day as Scrolling, and I was so happy about that. I'm like, I made it. Yeah, I mean, having a song released the same professionally the same day as is Paul McCartney.

43:36 Oh my god. But you can probably. Connect with his manager and shoot him a message just because like we're all people. I mean, you know, it's it's yeah, I'm sure he'd welcome it. Yeah, And let's see And I released that song. I spent a little bit of money on it, and like I said, you have you have to invest in yourself. Yes, I mean it costs me when to do it this way. But what I did was I used a platform called play m PE and they're a very very professional launch. First you go like if you have CD Baby or you have like distroke Kid, you have to have your uh distributor, so you lock into one of those. And then after you have it, after you have your drop date ready right, you go to play MPE and you and you have to you have to have a label.

44:30 That's the only thing. So that's what Bubba James, Bubba Sandiford he he he actually went and opened up a label so that way we could get a couple of other songs out and that I've done previously. And label is s s I Records, and uh, it'll say it on the song. We did everything professionally, so if you see it'll say you know he did it. So you go on to play MPE and you put all the information in there. I mean you literally have to write the thing about the song. It's like a what do you call that? Just a what would you call that?

45:11 Just the story behind a song. Yeah, and what day it's gonna drop. Because play MPE are very important because they they get the song, you give it to them, and then three weeks before the song drops, they they go boom and they send it to all the people like yourself that you do these shows and stuff like that you would start getting if you sign up for it, you would be getting all the new stuff and an email and then you can look at it yourself and say, hey, let's check the song out. But it goes It goes out the bloggers, it goes out to radio stations, terrestrial, FM, AM, all those things, and you get to choose your your like like your genre, you know, because sometimes you have a crossover, so you have you have the song that would do good in country and pop or something you launch on both of them.

46:08 So I have to I'm sorry, I have to cut you off. I could talk with you for another hour, but we just have a couple of minutes left, and I'm so glad that that we have this time to talk and share. Yes, oh, I want to get one of those shirts. I'll have to have to connect with you so I can buy one of your one of those shirts. Tell so last minute words. We want to keep music alive, we want to keep the authenticity alive. And I'm hoping to get a minute in that I can play a little something and I don't. Okay, we'll have that. But what last words for today in our show? Would you mention to our audience as far as musicians that are wanting to be where you're at, what would be your your guidance or your words, your food for thought?

46:57 Don't don't don't use AI try to write a song without it. I mean, it's inevitable, it's it's, it's it's it's a big problem for me. It is a very problem. I don't like it at all, But just try to do it. No, No, exercise your brain. I'm not saying don't do it because people use it for tools. If you use it for tools, to me, you're not a songwriter if you use it at all. But but use your brain and how to use your friends? How do people connect with you? Those are the audience out there that's listening. And I'm sorry to my audience, is not going to be able to play for you today, but I will pick it up next week. No, I can play the last minute, but how do we, how do we? How do we connect with you?

47:43 Oh my god, I never I haven't even thought of that. So so through my Facebook. I don't even know what it's called though. How do I Can I send you a link or something? Yeah? Can you spell your last name for our audience? Okay, okay, my name is Robert Galusa. Last name g U g l i u z z A. It's a long Italian name. And I know I did everything so hard. I want to get out there and get somewhere, but I chose the last name. Oh my god, how are they going to remember? Thank you so much?

48:23 Yes, thank you, Bobby, and I love to Maria and we will be in touch. Okay, And for my audience out there, tune next week to find out who my next special guest is. I'm always so excited. Strolling. It's great.