Sept. 15, 2025

The Sound of Gold with guest Thia Muilenburg and Soulshine band

The Sound of Gold with guest Thia Muilenburg and Soulshine band

An interview with Thia Muilenburg. The lead singer for Soulshine band. Thia will share with us, her passion for playing music. How it began and how she inspired her whole family to be musicians of their own. We will get to learn howxher inspiration...

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Season 1

An interview with Thia Muilenburg. The lead singer for Soulshine band.
Thia will share with us, her passion for playing music. How it began and how she inspired her whole family to be musicians of their own. We will get to learn howxher inspiration lead her daughter Allegra Miles to be a starvon The Voice.
Thia plays locally at music venues with her band. We will get her feedback on how its important to stay persistent with music venues.

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Gold and I am

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thrilled to be here. I'm here with Calli and we

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are welcoming some great people on our show today. But

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before we do, I want to thank you for being

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here and let you know that the reason we do

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this show is to focus on music, musicians, music venues,

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music teachers, and music schools. And the idea is we

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want to keep music original, and we want to keep

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it going, we want to keep it moving, and so

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venues that have live musicians and live bands, it's just

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so important to keep that thriving. And as a musician myself,

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I know I love to play. I love to perform.

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It's a passion. It's what I love to give from

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my heart. And if you've heard me play before, great,

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If you haven't, you may hear me a little bit today,

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But really the show is not so much about me.

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It's about who I get to connect with. It's about

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who I get to have on my show. It's about

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who I get to represent and uh and today I

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have some very special guests. I have the Soul Shine

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Band joining me, and I just found out there's two

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bands with that name, but the only Soul Shine Band

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I know of has lead singer THEA Mulenberg and Tommy

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Strauss and Nick Fallon and al Johnson, and they are

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such a fabulous local band that plays Their harmonies are great,

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they play a lot of original pieces and I'm so

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so thrilled to invite them on. So let's welcome THEA

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and Nick and Tommy and I think al Is is

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not able to join us today, but that's okay, we

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will have him next time. Welcome. Thank you, thanks, yes,

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thank you much for making the time. If you haven't met,

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this is CALLI. She's going to be joining us for

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the interview here for a little bit anyway. So I

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was just mentioning how important music is and how the

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whole purpose for my show is not so much for

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me but to help her present all these all of you,

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all of us local musicians that have this passion to

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play and passion to share our heart because music is

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not just something we play. It's something we express and

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it's something that we feel. And I know, the more

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we feel melodies and the more we feel what we play,

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the greater it's received by the audience. And I mean,

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there's so much I could just keep going on and

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on about THEIA. I wanted to start with you. I know,

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we just recently told me soul Shine. There's two different

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bands named soul Shine, but in my world, I no

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offense to the other soul Shine band. But I don't

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know that band. So I'm welcoming you. I'm welcoming the

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soul Shining band that I know and I heard you

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guys play. There's so much information I want to get

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to share with our audience about all of you, and

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starting with youth, the I mean, what where did you

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begin your life journey on music? What inspired you to

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get to where you are now?

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Oh wow, that's a big question. So I have been

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a musician since I was seven piano lessons and way

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fast forward, I decided to become a music therapist after

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I was in a horrible car accident, and I healed

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myself through music and art and other creative means. It

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was a fatal car crash, so it was a lot

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to heal. So that spurred me on to becoming a

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therapist because I wanted to use the arts to help people.

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And so I was a music therapist for over twenty years.

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And all that time I was using my music and

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other art and drama and so forth, but using my

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guitar and my singing for various reasons to help people

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of all ages. And I wasn't performing. I was. I

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was helping groups and individuals. So at some point after

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I stopped doing that, I realized that that was one

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thing I really had not done very much of, was performing,

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and that I had a desire to do that. I

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also had a desire to write songs and record them.

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And so all around the same time, when my kids

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had finally flown the coup and I found myself like

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an empty nester, Okay, it's time to really focus on

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that more in my life. And in twenty nineteen I

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started gigging, solo gigging, and there was this wonderful little

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cafe called the Garden City Cafe, which you all know

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always been supportive of musicians, and I was invited to

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come play there on a regular basis and that just

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one thing led to the other and I just loved it,

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and I formed the band in twenty twenty two. That

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was three years ago, Soulsheim and we've had some different

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members over the years, but Tommy, are percussionist, joined in

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twenty twenty three. And it started out as an all

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female fronted band with harmonies, and then you know, various

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changes happened, people moved away and so forth, and now

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we have also a focus on harmony. I'm the only

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female though, but it's been a fantastic, fantastic experience to

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work with this group and I'm looking forward to hearing

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what they have to say to Nick and Tommy. And

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I'm really sorry that Al Johnson can't be here. He

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is working and something came up, unfortunately, but he and

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I joined forces in January, and he has considerable experience

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led a couple of major bands that toured around the

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country and they played and performed for I think over

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sixteen seventeen years something like that. So very talented singer, songwriter,

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guitar player, plays the harp, harmonica, and we've just had

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a wonderful time being open to the genres that we

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both feel comfortable that could be considered different. He's more

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of a country rocker, I'm more of a folk rocker.

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But we've found our middle ground and we love to harmonize,

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and I think we both really appreciate the kind of

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music that we each love, and so that's worked out

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really nicely. We're all acoustic, we focus mostly on the harmonies,

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and I think we're offering something that no other band

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around here offers, which is really fun. And it's been

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inspiring to work with Al because he is so so

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gifted and so experienced, and I feel like the band

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has really kind of come up a notch because or

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maybe two or three notches even because of him being

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a part of it. So I'm so so grateful for that.

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And we have a lot of exciting things in store

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for the future, I'm sure. And then, of course, you know,

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I want these fine fellows here to introduce themselves, but

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I just feel so grateful to both of them for

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being part of this project. Nick is an incredibly gifted,

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outstanding musician, all self taught, and he will tell you

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about that and he plays the piano and he sings

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gorgeous harmony with us. He has a great year. Tommy

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is just an affixado on drums, but I have him

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playing does because we're doing an acoustic thing here and

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so it's just so great have someone who's really adept

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at that join us and it is somewhat fun and

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I've loved having a part of it for so many years.

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Yeah, I want, I want everybody. Everybody's going to have

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some time to chat and to tell us their part.

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And I'm so excited to get to know each of you.

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I wanted. I had one other question before I wanted

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to move along. Vieah, I'm I have this belief that

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we are a product of our environment, and you, your

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family is I love both you and your husband. You

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are so supportive of our community when it comes to

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music and musicians. Not only that, but your family core base,

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I mean you have I'm not going to give away

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the little like tidbits that that I know, but how

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can you what what would you want to share with

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the audience about like your family core because you so

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much that you you stick together with and you've grown

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with and there's so much your you know, you've accomplished,

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and your daughter has accomplished, and and your husband has accomplished,

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and you've been there for each other and it's just it.

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My heart swells would love to see.

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Yeah, thank you. Oh that's so sweet.

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You know.

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I think that it all started with my mom and

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my grandmothers, who were both musical, and I just grew

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up with a lot of piano playing and singing in

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the house, you know, mostly Broadway show tunes and stuff.

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And my grandmother was a singer and played the piano

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and wrote music that was published. Some of it was

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made famous by other singers. But you know, and so

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I actually have her piano in my house, my grandmother's piano,

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and my girls play it and I play it. It's

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really amazing. But but but we grew up with music,

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and it was it was fostered and encouraged. Luckily, you know,

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when I when I wanted to take lessons, they gave

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them to me. When I wanted to switch to guitar,

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they bought me a guitar. I was very fortunate that

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way that we had the means to be able to

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get a guitar and get lessons and all that, and

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so and I think there was an understanding that music

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was a good thing, you know, that this was something

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they wanted to promote. And so I think that makes

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a big difference. And having a parent in the house

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that is a musician to model, that makes a huge difference.

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And I understood that. So when I had my children,

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you know, as a music therapist now, you know, and

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having got a master's degree and really focused on music

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being a healing modality, I understood how important music was

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inside and out, you know, and and so I just,

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you know, even before they were born, I was singing

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to them while they're there in the womb, and you know,

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just surrounding them with classical music and playing the piano

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while they're going to sleep at night because the piano

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was in their bedroom, you know, just surrounding them with

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music all the time. And I also was teaching music

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to for early childhood education. In my home. I had

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a studio with you know, kids coming and the moms

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would come and my kids would be part of it,

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and they were just it was saturated with music. And

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they both started lessons of four and they're you know,

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a piano and my older daughter still plays the guitar.

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And sings and performs sometimes at open mics. But my

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younger daughter is the one who became a musician and songwriter,

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and she's actually has a career in that right now

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in LA And I've always just felt like it was

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my role in life to promote music in others and

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to kind of bring the music to, you know, to party,

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bring the music to the party, help each other in

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the community, you know, by supporting them in their creativity

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to be songwriters. I run a songwriting workshop and weekend

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every other month and it's been really successful. And now

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bringing it to the stage and expressing through the music

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that I've written, that Al's written, hopefully that Nick has written.

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Someday We're gonna do your songs. Maybe even Tommy, We're gonna,

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We're gonna. I just love expressing through song, you know,

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my experiences in life and El's. It's been a wonderful

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thing to be able to do that and then also

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other people's songs, to just dive in and interpret other

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wonderful songs and provide that for the audience, because the

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audience really responds to music. I mean, I've had people

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over the just the last week alone, I've had two

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people who I know, friends of mine in the audience

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breakdown in tears during a performance.

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I mean it's touching something deep inside that is healing.

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And I don't have to know what that is. I

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just know that whatever I'm doing is opening up that

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door for someone who needed that in a moment, that

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maybe the music helped them in a way that they

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felt supported enough to be able to cry, you know.

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And that's a beautiful thing. So not making music, but

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I mean writing it and all that, but performing it

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is a really powerful thing. And just doing it in

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a way that soothing that is in harmony harmonies itself.

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I mean, when everyone is lined up with the different

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parts of harmony, it's and you're getting into the same

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you know, vibration and harmonizing. It is an amazingly powerful

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thing to write right down.

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How would our listeners if they want to book book

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you guys to come in and play for them, or

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a venue wants to book you, how would they reach you?

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reach out to Soulshine Songs at gmail dot com. That's

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maybe the easiest way. Or they can d m us

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on all the socials we have Instagram and Facebook pages

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that are called soul Shine and they can see us.

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They can see our videos. I post videos up on

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YouTube on the handle is the soul Shine Band on YouTube,

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so they can hear what we sound like. And yeah,

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we have lots of ways people can get in touch

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with us, but maybe the easiest to remember is the

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email soul Shine Songs at gmail dot com.

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Okay, good to know, Good to know, Nick telling me

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I want to hear from both of you. Do you

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have a preference of who wants to chime.

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In first Europe?

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Okay, fair, I've I know I met you at a

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couple of shows and I know you played keyboards fabulously.

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But tell us a little bit about your history, about

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what brought you into the music world and what you

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know what keeps you moving in that direction, and how

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you met how you met THEA and got involved with Soulshine.

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Well, you know, it's I kind of think of it

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as two different things. So music I've always been I

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mean as much, almost as far back as I can

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remember eight ten, I was I wanted to play the piano,

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and I was constantly playing music, but mostly for myself.

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I started working out classical stuff by year and then

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became more contemporary as time went by, and it seemed

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classical wasn't so cool to my peers.

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But but I didn't really.

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I don't feel like I joined the music world or

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the music community until I came down here and I

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started going to the Mondaday nights with Gary Frost at

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Angelo's uh the open Mic, and I would also go

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to the sitting in with Gary on Thursdays. And that's

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that's when I started to define this community and this

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music world and start sharing a little bit of my

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music with others. I've been playing UH pretty really pretty

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solidly from about ten on UH most I was at

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that time piano, then shifted into the guitar because again,

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the guitar I could carry around with me, and I

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think it was cooler uh in the high school college years.

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But yeah, the community is just unbelievable fabulous. It was

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so so supportive. I never thought I would be joining bands.

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And then out of out of the blue, I got

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involved with another one off off the coattails of a

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chance yard sale encounter. They said, hey, you, why are

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you interested in this drummer seat as well? I just

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got a new piano and so we we need a

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piano player. And I got an interview or an audition,

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i should say, with with the tally Men, of which

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Tommy Straus at the time was not a member. This

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was the previous drummer that I was buying the chair from.

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But before I knew it, he was out and Tommy

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was in, and one thing led to another. In two

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bands playing piano when really I'm a prime Primarily I'm

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a guitarist. I'm very comfortable on the guitar, been playing

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that a lot more. That's definitely my primary instrument. But bands,

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they have too many guitarists as it is. That's true

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with the Taliman, that's true with the so with sol

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Shine as well. And I love the piano. It's my

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first love. And I'm trying trying to I'm faking it

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till I make it, but I'm trying to get back.

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In Okay, all right, and yes in Italiman. Yes, I've

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reached out to Scott. I've invited him on the show,

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but he hasn't responded, so.

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I'm sure he will up.

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Yeah, yeah, we could get yeah, yeah we have we

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have the pole.

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Yea. Now tell me, I know I know you for

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a while and my husband. I both you and you

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are a fabulous drummer. In fact, when we came by

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your house and we saw the drug played the drums,

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I mean you kind of blew us away. We had

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no idea the talent that you keep undercover and it's

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just you know what you bring to the table and

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that the drumming, it is just we're always like only.

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Timmy, I appreciate that. Yeah.

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So yeah, I actually started on piano. Okay, it was

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seven years old. My mom played piano and sang a

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little bit. She's an artist. I have some of it

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because she passed away, but I have some of our

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work in my house and she's just saying, you know,

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in the house and played the piano, and I actually

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have the piano now it's a third generation piano.

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When I I actually the recommended a tuner, so.

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I had a tuned after a few years and he said,

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this piano is from like nineteen twenty eight a camp.

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So I started with piano and then when I'm ten

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years old, when I was ten, I kind.

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Of revolted and gravitated towards drums.

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So that's how it started. The piano teacher would leave

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the house I was banging on the drums and kind

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of revolting towards drums, and then by that was like

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fourth grade. In sixth grade, we had elementary school graduation

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for sixth grade. Actually, it's interesting and ironic that I'm

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in a band that's based upon vocals and harmonies, because

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I really can't sing at all. And you know, I

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made mouth a little bit when we're playing, but I'm

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not a singer.

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And the funny.

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Story is, in the sixth grade graduation, there was telling

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ten people in this elementary school class. It was almost

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like going to private school, and it wasn't very nice,

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but they made me mouthed. The singing and the graduation ceremony.

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It made me mouth it. But I made up for

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it because I had my double based drum kit on

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the stage and I blew everywhere and away when I

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was in the program too. I played the inner guttadavita

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drum solo.

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When I was ten. I kind of blew people now.

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And then fast forward.

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To a fourteen years old I was asked to play

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in a band and on drums in a classic rock band.

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And I don't know if it's called classic rock band

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because it was just rock, and these kids, most of

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them were in private school, so I was fortunate in high.

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School to play.

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In high school dances. They were a lot of fun

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and they were pretty good paying. Then they kind of

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paid what people are paying now.

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And it's fifty years ago, but I really enjoyed that.

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I went to college.

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I started shipping out my drums a little bit, but

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I really just kept the.

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Drums in mind.

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And then things passed forward to maybe just under forty years.

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Old, twenty five years ago.

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I really I found out about an open mic where

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I used to live in New Jersey, and I started

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playing in a blues jam there and started going once

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a week. And about the same time, I got asked

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to join a band, which I hadn't.

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Been in a band in years and years, So it

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all came to fruition around the same time. And then

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I was in.

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This classic band rock band cult common Ground before I

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joined the other bands in New Jersey, and we really

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just played about once a month and maybe.

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A little more in some private parties. But really enjoyed that.

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And then Sandy and I were snowbirds in Florida a

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little bit, and Sandy's Michael, what's holding back?

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Or really maybe would like to be in Florida, And

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I was like, well the music community, blah blah. But

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it turned out that I was fortunate to meet the

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music community down in Florida and South Florida really by

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going to open mics.

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I believe I first met there maybe a Double Roads

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and started playing with her and kind of then I've

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had these congas. I've traded a couple of them, but

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they were from like nineteen from like nineteen eighty. I've

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traded a couple of ins, a couple of them in

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with new ones that I'm playing with. Soul Shine and

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Thea like a few years ago approached me maybe five

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years ago.

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You know, I really was looking for congas well. I'm

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really not a conga player. I'm more of a drummer,

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but I've.

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Kind of adapted myself and doing more and more percussion,

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so I feel much more comfortable playing percussion. And I

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mean I'm more comfortable. I'm comfortable on the drums of color.

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Of course, we just the talent man had a nice

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gig over the weekend with Nick on keyboard. But so

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I feel like I'm versatile on drums and percussion. But

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I really enjoy It's kind of ironic. And the point

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is that I'm in a harmony type band. I don't

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think they're looking for four part harmony at this time,

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but looking.

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When you can't you do your counting.

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That's what we're looking for.

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You know, asked me to play with her, and I

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haven't turned back since then. I really enjoyed playing with

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this band. And there's a lot more to come with this.

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We've got some exciting shows coming up. Yeah, I think

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I could show my versatility, you know, playing congress. I'm

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percussion with me, So thank you and thank you. Soul

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Shine and d M May mentioned who I recommended to

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join us on this band. I think it was Nick.

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So we're looking for a bass or a piano or keyboard,

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and I recommended Nick just for a few months playing

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with him with that other band.

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We don't have to mention it. So gold Shine band

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we're talking about.

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So we all wanted dm A want to discuss, you know,

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upcoming shows. I believe we have one this Friday, but

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we'll get to that. But so there's been no turning

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back with the music. And you know, I found point

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being once I was in Florida, I really found there's

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a great music community in South Florida, all kinds of band,

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some good venues, and you need to support the local

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venues to keep this going.

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Really, they could always use support.

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Yes, So that's what I have to say at the moment.

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Thank you, thank you for having us, and thank you

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for thea for asking me to be part of this band.

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I appreciate.

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I'm so happy to have you.

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Thank you.

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Yes, and local venues, you know, there's a certain amount

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of money you mentioned like getting paid, like kind of

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still getting paid today what you got paid back years ago.

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That's kind of true for most venues.

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Yes, yes, and at the door, I have to be

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right back okay.

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In some ways that makes me really sad because local,

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I mean, music itself is energy. It's so healing and

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it it brings us together in unity. It doesn't matter

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what religion, what your political views are, or what country

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you live in. Music brings us together and it's just

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so under rated and underlooked. I think when it comes

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to getting paid, and as musicians, myself included, I have

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no problem paying for tips or playing for tips or

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playing just to play. However, I think the people that

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do not play music do not have that understanding that

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where like, we put so much time and work into this,

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but it's a passion that keeps it going, and it's

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something that in generations to come. I hope to in

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this in our generation or in my daughter's generation, I

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hope to be somewhat of a voice that speaks out

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to say, hey, you know, don't overlook us, like we're

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here to not only share our passion, but our and

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but our good energy and are entertain the masses because

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we want to keep us together in unity and in

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love because you take it everything else away. Again, energy

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is is love and peace, and that's that's what we're

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all here to keep alive. And we want to all

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stay happy and do what we love. One of the

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biggest questions I have is I didn't get to ask,

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and I already know, but I don't know if the

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audience knows. What kind of music is your focus? What

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do you what you like to play when you're out?

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Do you play originals? Do you play covers? What what

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is your go to music when you play?

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Are you asking me?

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It's okay, answer, I can answer, Okay, all right, I'll

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answer this one. We have all and I have written

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a bunch of originals. El has written way more than

468
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I have, but we have our music on Spotify and

469
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.319
Apple Music and all that, so of course we want

470
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.240
to play our own music as much as possible, but

471
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.680
we do understand that the audience may not be familiar

472
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.519
with those and it's wonderful to hear them when they

473
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.200
get to hear them, but I think they really do

474
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.319
enjoy hearing covers, maybe even more until they get to

475
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:25.000
know our songs. So we mostly play covers, and we

476
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:30.160
do it with a smattering of originals in there, and

477
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:35.319
it's Americana and folk rock, because I would say Al's

478
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:39.400
side of the story is more country Americana. He actually

479
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.960
had an Americana band called Americana Jones for seven years

480
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.079
here in this area, disbanded and then I've been more

481
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.680
Oh it's something just happened with the sound. Can you

482
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:50.960
hear me?

483
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:51.279
Okay?

484
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.240
Okay? So I've been more focused on folk rock my

485
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.960
whole adult life when it comes to play guitar and singing.

486
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.839
So so we we actually combine the two of those together,

487
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.559
so we have some more country Americana and we also

488
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:12.960
have folk rock more of a rock and sound. We

489
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:15.079
do a lot. I think one of the things that

490
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.559
we do that probably I have never heard really anyone

491
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.799
else do around here other than in bluegrass bands. We

492
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:25.559
do some really beautiful old emil O. Harris songs that

493
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.319
have harmonies, some two and three part harmony that are

494
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:33.519
just classics that are beautiful. We do you know, some

495
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:42.759
band and and and I'm blanking on names here, Tom Petty,

496
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:51.599
thank You, thank you, Cross Steels, Mashing Young three part yeah,

497
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.160
and and a lot of fun sing along kind of

498
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.759
songs that people know the words too. But we try

499
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.839
not to play a lot of overplayed songs, uh, you

500
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.599
know songs and all the other bands play. We're playing,

501
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.920
you know, things that are touching like I'll do Get

502
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.519
Together by the Young Bloods or you know, Leaving on

503
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.240
a jet Plane by Peter Palm Mary, things like that

504
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.000
that are really touching. And then more rock and stuff

505
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.759
like Jambalaya or you know, Woodstock. We do the Carspills

506
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.720
National Young Version, which is kind of rocking things like that.

507
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.039
So we have a nice mix of up and down

508
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.799
suite and rocking and you know, more country to more

509
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.720
rock folk. It's really it's really a good mix. And

510
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:39.759
I don't know of any other band who's really doing

511
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.079
that at this point in our area. So I think

512
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.359
we offer something different that people are enjoying, and we're

513
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:47.880
we're starting to build a little bit of a following

514
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:50.720
now and we're really pleased about that. We hope it

515
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:51.400
keeps growing.

516
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.680
No Where are you playing this weekend?

517
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.759
This week we're going to be actually al and I

518
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.720
have a duo. The two of us play just the

519
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.359
two of us as a duo. And we've been playing

520
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.359
a bit at the Speak Easy at Double Roads, which

521
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.480
is a members only club, and we'll once a month

522
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.000
for a few months now, and that's a wonderful place

523
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.759
to play. We'd love it. There a great, great place

524
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.400
to be a member, but I mean you don't have

525
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:20.759
to be a member to come in and listen to

526
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.400
the music if you want to stay for a bit

527
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:30.240
and listen, certainly. And the next night Friday night, that's

528
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.759
on Thursday the eighteenth, and then Friday is at the

529
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.000
old Garden City Cafe, which used to be called that

530
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.000
where I got my start and a lot of musicians

531
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.240
around here did it's they've been so supportive along the years.

532
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.079
Now it's called the Rusty Hook Tavern in Juno Beach

533
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.319
and the new owners are equally supportive, and so we're

534
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.440
playing there and then the following week we'll be playing

535
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:58.160
at the brew House Gallery in Lake Park on Friday,

536
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.960
the twenty sixth, and they Joe and Miller. Joe Brockman's

537
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.960
the owner. She's been incredibly supportive of us. We've had

538
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.559
a monthly gig there for most of this year. So

539
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.440
we're so fortunate to have that opportunity to rely on

540
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.279
because it gives us a chance to get out there

541
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:18.920
and perform and have more experience doing that and to

542
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.119
build a following. So that's been great. We have some

543
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.440
more gigs coming up next month that are new. We

544
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.160
have some new venues that we'll be playing at. We're

545
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:30.480
playing at Swamp Glass Willie's, We'll be playing at Angelo's Restaurant.

546
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:37.720
We have Northwood Arts Warehouse in Northwood. Next year, We've

547
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.440
already gotten the R. Bradley's in downtown West Palm booked.

548
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:42.880
Wow.

549
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:48.359
Yeah, so really excited about that one. So yeah, we're

550
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.599
very excited about how things are evolving. It is so

551
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.839
darn hard to get booked around here because there's so

552
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.400
many musicians, but I feel like we're making some headway,

553
00:32:58.519 --> 00:32:59.119
So that's good.

554
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:06.960
Yeah, we're definitely expanding upon our venues coming up to Yeah, right.

555
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:12.079
That's great. No, do you it's a question for our audience.

556
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.720
I guess it's kind of two questions for musicians that

557
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.240
are just getting out there. What is the best tactics

558
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.400
to take to get booked?

559
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:23.720
Do you?

560
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.839
Is it friends through friends kind of figure it out

561
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.920
that way, or do you you know, is there one

562
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.359
of you that manages the band and manages the.

563
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:41.720
Booking well all of that management stuff, but there are

564
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.400
opportunities to come up for the other band members to

565
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.559
to you know, have to get a booking for us,

566
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.880
And that certainly happened, which is I really appreciate that.

567
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.279
And so everyone's on the lookout obviously for a new

568
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.319
venue or a booking opportunity for us, which is great.

569
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:01.440
But I'm I'm I work at I have a spreadsheet.

570
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:04.279
I go through the spreadsheet and I make contact with

571
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.960
people by text, by emails, by phone calls, and sometimes

572
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.760
I don't hear a thing for months, and I'll be

573
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.199
getting to them like every other week or something subtly

574
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:18.360
out of the blue, they email me, Hey, can you

575
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:20.840
you know, can you do this that's okay, So it's working.

576
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.519
This is actually working, but it does take a lot

577
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:27.960
of perseverance, and there's a lot of you know, banging

578
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.280
on doors and not getting anywhere at all, which is

579
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:33.440
very frustrating. I think probably if I had some advice

580
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:35.679
for somebody who's just getting started, like I did in

581
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:41.000
twenty nineteen, you know, having people letting your friends know

582
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:44.719
that you're interested, and then maybe they can suggest a

583
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.039
place for you that maybe you have a friend who's

584
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.679
a musician who plays out or gives can give you

585
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:53.639
a recommendation to a person who owns a restaurant or whatever,

586
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.000
and then or going in there and introducing yourself, but

587
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.559
certainly having since they've never heard you before, or if

588
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.800
you can show them what you sound like, that would

589
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.920
be great. You know, like give them a link to

590
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:11.920
a YouTube video that you you've put up there somehow

591
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:13.960
getting it across what you sound like. And you know

592
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.719
it's not going to be you walking in with your

593
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:18.480
guitar and playing a song. More than likely you're going

594
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:20.840
to have to give a link to something or give

595
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.920
them a little thumb drive or something to listen to,

596
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.760
and that will sell. It's how you sound that's going

597
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.559
to sell them. And then also how professional you are.

598
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.480
You know, if you're blaky and you don't give back

599
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:35.880
to them, they're not going to want to hire you.

600
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.880
But if you are persistent and you're light and you're

601
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:43.000
very grad grateful, they'll probably want to do business for you.

602
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:44.679
You know that they'll figure that you're going to be

603
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:50.159
easy to work with, right, and so offering marketing, you

604
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.159
know that you're willing to do the marketing, you know,

605
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:57.360
putting up the Facebook event, inviting all your friends, making posts,

606
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:01.079
all that stuff. They really want that because that's that's

607
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:02.440
going to bring the customers in.

608
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.559
Nice, nice and it makes sense and it makes sense.

609
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:12.679
Nick and Tommy, Yes, what do you when do you

610
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.360
guys all get together? And I mean do you have

611
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.039
like an agenda for when you practice together or do

612
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.440
you just kind of like know your songs and then

613
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.039
just know like, okay, we're going to meet Friday night

614
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:27.199
and we'll just play that.

615
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:33.800
But we pretty much have a set day usually Tuesdays

616
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.440
at dias and we you know, I try to put

617
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:43.199
that night away for rehearsals personally, So that's really you need.

618
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.920
It's good to have structure with that instead of just

619
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:48.480
winging when you're going to have rehearsals, so then you

620
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:52.840
know and you could plan for it right and if

621
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.559
you can't make that one, they're going to be a

622
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.760
little late. You know, we're pretty good comedy. But I

623
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:57.559
try to put.

624
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:59.599
That aside, okay.

625
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.239
And then just to add one thing to what THEA

626
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:07.000
said before as far as marketing the band, Like if

627
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.880
you're in a new place supporting a friend's band or

628
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:13.599
something you know, and you're supporting there about having dinner

629
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.760
there or something, you say, well, who can I speak

630
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.400
to here about? You know, then we have a band,

631
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.400
or you have a business card, or you can tell

632
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:24.440
them about yourself and get the contact that way happening.

633
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.679
Happened to be in that venue and meeting somebody there.

634
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:30.480
That makes sense.

635
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:37.719
Yes, absolutely great idea as a band. But then again,

636
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.119
individually you have some great original pieces and I know

637
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.000
a lot of them are already on Spotify and what

638
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:49.960
have you. However, with new pieces that you're working on

639
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.199
maybe now or new pieces in the future, Nick Tommy,

640
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:58.559
when you're working together as as a band, but in

641
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.320
practice you and this is a silly question. I know

642
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:04.920
the answer, but maybe for some of our listeners, they

643
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.039
don't know this. When you're working together as a band,

644
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.159
do you all kind of bring your own cards to

645
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.000
the table, per se? Like I have my own style

646
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.559
of playing right, So Tommy, you have your style of

647
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.840
playing drums, if you have your style for playing music,

648
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.480
and you know, we each have our own way to

649
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:27.960
maybe jazz it up ard or bluegrass it up board

650
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:31.360
or tune it up or change it down or what

651
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.280
have you. So when you're together as a band, do

652
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.719
you kind of work on songs where you're working on

653
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.199
it together or do you or theo let's say, do

654
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.840
you have like a like a certain particular way of

655
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.679
how you want a song to go or I mean

656
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.719
collaborating together? Is it a collaboration or is it kind

657
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:57.280
of a collaboration of building the song together. I guess

658
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:58.880
that's a long way of asking.

659
00:38:58.559 --> 00:38:59.679
That you want to answer.

660
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.840
Nick I was thinking, more often than not, it's the

661
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.719
former and not the latter. There there's a we're bringing

662
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:08.519
our cards to the table. So you will have a

663
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.199
song that she has done with previous iterations of soul

664
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.920
shine and has an idea for how it wants, you know,

665
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.440
how she'd like it to be or the key and

666
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:21.280
that that sort of structure. There is definitely flexibility and

667
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:27.360
and a collaborative uh uh environment, very supportive about changes

668
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:29.760
here and there, but to with within within a set

669
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:30.320
of parameters.

670
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:31.760
We don't don't suddenly make it a.

671
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:36.719
Salsa, you know, out of the blue, although that could

672
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.159
be very interesting and maybe, you know, maybe we would

673
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:44.679
try that down the line, but in general, I'm thinking

674
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:48.039
of the example with with my my Randy Newman tunes.

675
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:50.440
I don't think that that was definitely out of the blue.

676
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.199
It was a card in my deck that I played

677
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:53.960
and everyone.

678
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:57.000
Said, oh yeah, I think we could do this, no problem.

679
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.639
It was very very well received, so a veryigh. But

680
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.159
even that we did some alteration. I have this I'm

681
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:08.880
gravitating towards wanting to play it the way that the writer,

682
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:13.639
Randy Newman plays it, and the thought process from the

683
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:15.880
band is that no, no, no, it's three Dog Night.

684
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:17.159
That's what the people know.

685
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.800
That's that's the syncopation that they're expecting, so they're you know,

686
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:22.440
it's there's a collaborative process.

687
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:25.639
Can I add to that? Yeah, I think everything he

688
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.480
said was right on. I just wanted to add because

689
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.800
Al's not here and maybe I should add im he

690
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.199
would not be comfortable saying this himself anyway as well.

691
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.559
He's got so much experience, you know that we can

692
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.159
rely on him to come up with some great ideas

693
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.599
for how to work our way into a song or

694
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.000
make it better and and you know, whether it's an

695
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.960
intro or you know, a type of harmony or whatever.

696
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:53.039
And so it's just.

697
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.599
Really been wonderful having him be in this collaboration with us.

698
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:02.800
I think he really I can trust his musical got

699
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:04.840
on whatever, he you know, his hunch on how to

700
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:09.239
do it better, and that's really great. I feel like, yes,

701
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.639
Nick has particular you know, strengths and the way he

702
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:18.679
plays and how he hears things, and we definitely want

703
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:24.280
to draw that out and feature it because he's incredibly talented,

704
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:27.599
gifted musician. And you know, I don't want him sitting

705
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:31.559
up on stage and just you know, being behind us.

706
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.000
I want him being out front and then audience enjoying

707
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.000
what he has to offer, you know. And I feel

708
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.320
the same way about Tommy. You know, we want him

709
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:41.760
to be out front when we can, you know, give

710
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.199
him a solo or whatever, so that the people in

711
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.440
the audience can see what he's got to offer, you know,

712
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.800
and we all have our strengths, and I think that's

713
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.960
part of making a band really solid. You know that

714
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:58.719
everybody has a chance to express themselves musically, and you

715
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.079
know there may be songs that one of them don't

716
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:03.320
really feel like. I wouldn't listen to this song on

717
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:06.000
the car radio. You know, maybe it's not my favorite song,

718
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.239
but we're playing it. But we're gonna make it even

719
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:11.800
better because we're doing it like Soulcialine does it. You know,

720
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.880
we put our own spin on stuff. Yeah, a three

721
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.960
part harmony or whatever we're doing, you know, to make

722
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:21.840
it ours.

723
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:24.840
But in terms of practice, I think we we do.

724
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.239
We're expected to work that song out, you know, on

725
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.599
our own, learn learn it, and then come to the

726
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.360
table to then come together as opposed to we don't

727
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.840
know the song, you know, blindfolded, we all come in

728
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:39.840
and well, you know, kind of work it out.

729
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:41.599
On the spot. That would take you I might consume

730
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:42.599
an entire practice.

731
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.639
So you have to practice, be so careful with your

732
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:48.199
time because you only get that one three hour practice

733
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.440
a week. And and so we do end up, like

734
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.239
sharing a recording of a song that we want to

735
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.199
learn either one that you know we wrote, then it

736
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.760
would be would be a video of us playing it

737
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.840
in the past with a different band, you know, iteration

738
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.519
that kind of thing, or you know, if it's a

739
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:13.079
popular song of some kind, sharing that and then I'll

740
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.639
even share lyrics and chords a lot of the time

741
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.679
so that we're all on the same key working those

742
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.800
kinds of things out. Sometimes it doesn't stick and we

743
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.239
change it. But I think preparation, good preparation, really makes

744
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:29.400
a difference because you have so little time and you

745
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:33.599
don't want to waste it. So I always have like

746
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.760
a prep sheet for our rehearsals of the songs that

747
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.800
I think we need to go over, and then we

748
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.159
don't usually get to all of them. But and then

749
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.480
I do a set list and we decide whether we

750
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.519
do want those songs in the set list, or we're

751
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:50.519
going to add some more from a rehearsal in there

752
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.440
or not. That kind of thing. So it's just doing

753
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.519
it in a systematic way that really helps us with

754
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:56.519
your time management.

755
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.079
That makes sense, That makes complete sense. You mentioned this

756
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.199
earlier before I had asked if you had I had

757
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.199
asked if you had some words for our audience, and

758
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.719
you gave us a great answer, Nick and Tommy. I

759
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.480
want to also get your feedback and I want our

760
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.639
audience to hear from you. What advice would you give

761
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:20.679
to new musicians or new bands coming together and as

762
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:25.480
we're moving a head wanting to keep our music alive.

763
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.320
You know what, what would I don't know who wants

764
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:33.239
to go first? Uh, what would you advise to your

765
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.559
new people coming into the music world or people that

766
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.360
are musicians that are just trying to figure it out.

767
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:44.599
I would say, when you're with a band, you want

768
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:50.519
to be always be respectful to your bandmates, and you

769
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.719
know sometimes it takes some compromise and working things out

770
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:58.320
and you know, feel a connection with your bandmates and

771
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.840
really that's the first step. But then the next step

772
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.840
is to connect with the audience. So I mean, I

773
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:08.400
enjoy I love playing music. I always have to play.

774
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.119
I kind of step it up when I'm in front

775
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:14.360
of people playing live it kind of I get excited.

776
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.800
By mid connection. Whether there's five people in the audience

777
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.519
are fifty. You just want to connect with people, and

778
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:20.360
that's important.

779
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.679
But the first step is to connect with your bandmates

780
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:25.719
and then go from there.

781
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.199
Thank you, and it well as I said, from my

782
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:33.239
personal experience, I mean, if you're if you're a musician

783
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:36.400
and you're not playing out very often and you want

784
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.360
to get hooked up, you know, connected to that community

785
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.800
that you keep talking about, that wonderful community. I think

786
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.199
the open mics are a great way to do that

787
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.519
and certainly a great place to start. And even once

788
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.079
once you've you know, found yourself in bands, you know, continued,

789
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.360
you meet new people, you'll play different things.

790
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:54.679
You know.

791
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.840
It's a way to workshop things you've written, things that

792
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.599
you are are working on that you can't play with

793
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:02.519
your band because they don't they don't want to do

794
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.440
a salsa, you know what, whatever, whatever it is. Yeah,

795
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:10.760
I think that community aspect that you're you're uh uh

796
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:15.360
so positive about that you My experience with that has

797
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:16.480
been through the through the.

798
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.400
Open mic, so highly highly recommend that.

799
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.119
And and then for playing out, that's I think thea

800
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.920
is if the really takes the reins on that. Although

801
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.199
Tommy does a great job as well finding finding gigs.

802
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:29.719
You know, once you've got a band together and you

803
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.400
want to play out, that is oh man, that's that's

804
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:35.559
it's to me, that's much much harder than the music.

805
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.199
The music is what I focus on. I'm playing the

806
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:39.599
music to for for.

807
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.320
Myself and and God willing for anyone that would enjoy

808
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:47.840
it around me. But the beaten down the doors and

809
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.000
getting h you know, putting putting your face, I think

810
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.639
probably in person to those managers and building that relationship.

811
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.880
That's and it's it's beyond, definitely beyond my skill set.

812
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.719
The then talk talk.

813
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:02.639
Further to that.

814
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.480
You do a wonderful job and we've we've heard you play,

815
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.440
and tell tell our audience again how we get in

816
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.639
touch with you to find out your vanus and your

817
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:15.760
your website and your songs.

818
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.440
Thank you. But before I do that, I just wanted

819
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:22.119
to say that I feel so grateful to have these

820
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:26.079
amazing musicians to get up on stage with. And I

821
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.880
feel like that is the key to making a band work,

822
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.840
because you know, you have to have that chemistry and

823
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.920
willingness to work together and communicate, and that's hard to

824
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.400
do all the time. There's a lot of ups and downs,

825
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.480
and you know, if you can, if you can keep

826
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.760
it together as a band, that's one of the hardest

827
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.840
things about having a band is keeping it together right.

828
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.840
They always break up right well, we're hoping not to

829
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:52.679
break up. I think we have good a good mix

830
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:56.119
right now and just feel so fortunate about that. But

831
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.280
that is like finding the right people to work with.

832
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:03.920
Is that's really key, you know, and it's hard, it

833
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.440
can be hard, but getting out to the open mics,

834
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:10.320
you will find a lot more musicians out there like yourself, right,

835
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:12.920
and that's a great way to network and find the

836
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.320
people that you know ultimately will be your bandmates. Yeah, so.

837
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:21.079
We're that up for a time, so please bear with us.

838
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.599
We get in touch with you.

839
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:28.000
And yeah, they can go to Facebook and Instagram, soul Shine,

840
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.239
the soul Shine Band on Instagram and just soul Shine

841
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.840
on Facebook with pages for those two and then soul

842
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:38.000
Shine Songs at gmail dot com if somebody wants to

843
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:42.039
email me about booking or anything at all, and then

844
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:46.119
they can go to YouTube to the soul Shine bands

845
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:48.480
as well. It's I think it's just soul Shine band

846
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.960
to see our videos of us playing wonderful.

847
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.800
Well, I'm sorry to touch you up, but we're just

848
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.840
we're out of time for today. Thank you so much

849
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.719
for making the time to be on our show, and

850
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:03.880
I look forward to hearing you guys again. You're amazing.

851
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:04.960
I love you.

852
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:10.079
All and thank you. You're wonderful for having us. We

853
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:11.119
really appreciate it.

854
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:15.480
Right. Hopefully look together soon and we look forward to

855
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:18.280
hearing you again. Soon we'll come out and see you.

856
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:21.840
Thank you, thank you, Lisa, Thanks Lisa.

857
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:26.960
Thanks bye, well, thank you so much for being on

858
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:38.719
our show and listening in or tuning in. Remember music

859
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:45.360
is energy, it's very healing, so let's keep music alive.