March 30, 2026

THE SOUND OF GOLD with The Jove Comedy Experience.

THE SOUND OF GOLD with The Jove Comedy Experience.
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Season 1

Todays show is a combo MtCC!! Musical theater, Comedy and Confidence. Tune in to meet some of the biggest entertainment inspirations in south florida entertainment. Today is a special episode! Listen in to learn what it takes to make it to the big stage. Its easier than you think.

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Hi there, welcome to the Sound of Gold. It's good

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to be back. It's Monday afternoon in the US and

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or early evening almost and wherever you're tuning in from,

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thank you for being here. The Sound of Gold is

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focused on music, musicians, music venues, music teachers, and music schools.

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I have several special guests today, and I'm so excited

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because today not only are we focusing on music, but

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we're focusing a little bit more into the theater. With

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musical theater, we're focusing on comedy, and we're focusing on

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confidence because when we're on stage and we perform, we

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just don't want to show up and just play our

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instrument and just not give up performance, because our presence

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and our performance is what makes our show. If you

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live in South Florida, you've seen the Jove. You know

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about the Jove. They've been working together for over twenty years.

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I'm so excited to welcome my guest Frank, Jesse and Travis.

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Lise join me from backstage. Hello, Lisa, Hi, Hi, Thank

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you so much for being here. I know how busy

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we all are. You mad time to be on this

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show you have. I could have each of you on

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a show by itself, because you are all so talented.

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You have so much want that you don't want that.

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Lisa, you have so much to give back to the community,

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and I mean, your talents just go beyond the roof.

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So I'm going to kind of rick a schey off

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of each of you. For those of you that are watching,

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you can see all four of us. For those of

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you that are listening, we are all here. So the

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Joke has been around. You guys got together about twenty

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years ago, maybe a little bit more. You guys perform

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at the Jove and at the Performing Arts Academy, now

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the Lighthouse Theater and Jupiter. Before we get to the

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comedy part of it, I would love for each of

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you to share a little bit about your journey as

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far as like how you got to be where you're

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at in the joke, and Frank, I know you just

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got off a flight, so why don't you start us off?

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And we want to keep you awake?

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Oh man, Well, how do I get to where I'm at?

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Well, it's a long, convoluted story, but I'll make it

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as quick as possible. I grew up in Canada, started

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off as a musician and got a scholarship to study

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acting in the city in New York and moved there

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on my nineteenth birthday.

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Worked there for a bunch of.

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Years in theater and TV and film, and then became

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a blue Man and that kind of was the pinnacle

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of my theatrical most people's theatrical lives, and yeah, did

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that show for eleven hundred shows, and then got into

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a place in my life where I was like, Okay,

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now what And everything happened so quickly that I was

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only twenty five at the time and when I got

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that show, So by the time I hit twenty eight,

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I was ready for a change. I was going to

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move to la and wright sitcoms, and I decided to

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move to Florida, of all places, and started a school

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in a theater which is the.

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Theater in school that we perform in to this day.

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So did that.

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And now I'm back up in New York for the

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last almost ten years. I can't believe it, actually it

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is ten years. And back at yeah, back at film

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and TV and producing and making movies.

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And that's my story. That's it.

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That's awesome. And I know you're doing some work and

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right now, and you're like musicians and I've said in

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other shows of my as a musician, as an artist,

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we are always creating. There's never any downtime. When there

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is downtime, we're thinking about what we're going to do next.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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No, absolutely true. Yeah, it never ends. I wish it

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could at times, I really do. I wish I could

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turn it off, but I can't. It's always something going

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on and you just you leap and then all of

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a sudden you're into something completely different that you never

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thought you'd be doing. Like you know, the stuff I'm

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doing now is it's crazy, but it's good.

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It's all good, awesome, Travis.

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Do you I would love to hear a little bit

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about your journey. And I know all three of you

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are like brothers from from other mothers to me. Because

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I know you guys so well and my extended family.

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It's good that we're all together today. Travis, give us

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a little background as to how you've gotten to where

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you are for our listeners.

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Yeah, I was unlike Frank and Jesse, I really don't

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have any acting or musical talent, but I did find

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improvisation living in Boston. Actually, Frank and I were there

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at the same time, but didn't know each other while

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he was and I, you know, I found improvisation by

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taking classes at a theater in Boston called Improv Asylum.

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My wife and I had just moved to the city.

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Wait, wait, did you call that improv asylum?

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Improv Asylum? Yes, yeah, they're still there and they've grown

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quite a bit. But yeah, I was. I went through

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their classes there. It was a training center. It took

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about a year and a half to go through with

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with really no intent of being a performer. I just

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really loved what improvisation sort of taught me. I mean,

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it was fun first and foremost it was fun, and

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then beyond that, it's it helped sort of introduce and

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develop a skill set that I thought was much bigger

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than just you know, comedy and the stage, and so

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when I had the opportunity to audition for their touring company,

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so I did that and actually I made the cast,

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and then over the next couple of years I sort

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of worked my way up to the main stage cast,

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and so that it was about four to five years

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being involved with the theater there. And then so when I,

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my wife and I moved to South Florida around two

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thousand and three, I was looking for you know, improv

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or theaters in the area and found Frank and and

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found Jesse through Frank, and then you know, it was like, hey,

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you know, you guys want to you know, have an

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improv group, produce some improv and they said yes, and

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so two thousand and four, I believe November two thousand

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and four was the first was the first show that

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we did. And now here we are. What are we in?

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Year twenty two?

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Now twenty two?

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Man?

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Yeah? Stuff?

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And boy do we look at Yeah? Have an aged

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a minute?

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Oh it comes back. It's delivering that.

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Jesse, thanks for ching he now, yes, good. I know

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we're all busy. I appreciate each tuning and you're traveling.

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Everybody to say this right now, I don't hear anything.

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What happened?

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Can I just say that everybody that can't watch this

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right now, you have missed Jesse sending everybody unbeknownst to

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him messages on his little subtitle that says.

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Can you hear me?

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I have no sound, I have no picture. We're really

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sorry at lease. So you should have known having a

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song was going to be a train wreck, and Jesse

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is the conductor right now.

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You guys are the best. You guys are the best.

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We should probably let Jesse go Lisa's before before it

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next delivery.

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Jesse, can you give us a can you know? I'm sorry?

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Can you share this a little bit about your para?

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Because the Joe this is the joke live, all scripted,

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This is all scripted.

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Lisa right here.

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Please tell me you started working for Dominoes and that's why.

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Right now it's too funny.

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Oh gosh, people, go ahead, Jesse, tell us how you

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got to where you're at.

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Yet hers. Oh people, this is great. I can tell

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you how Jesse?

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Can I can I tell Jesse's story talk right now?

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I actually know Jesse's story very well.

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And uh Jesse, Uh, Jesse's one of the uh unique

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dudes I've ever met and he's he started off actually

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in in Florida theater.

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Uh did a ton of Florida theater. And I met

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him when I first started cool. Uh And by the.

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Way, Jesse, if you can hear this, you can cut

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in any time you want. But since you can't, I'm

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gonna talk for you. And so I met Jesse in

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my I was teaching an adult acting class and Jesse

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walked in and within probably three days, we were fast friends.

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He was very talented and.

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Uh, he's about to crash in his car. I don't

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know what's happening over there, but this is fantastic.

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Uh.

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So any of you that are listening on radio, here's

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what you're Here's what your chort is gonna be.

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You're gonna go back and you're gonna get the link.

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To the visual of this, and you're gonna want to

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watch this over because this is anyway.

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Jesse started locally. He came into my class.

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I recognized that he had some talent, and we became

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best friends, and he became a teacher at my school,

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became the manager of the theater that we now are in,

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and that he now I believe owns a piece of

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After I sold it back in twenty fourteen. So now

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he's there, and he's a great guy and very funny. Obviously,

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has no clue how to operate technology, which is great,

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and doesn't realize his camera is facing up towards the

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little of his star.

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I mean, it just gets it gets better and better.

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So well, thank you, Frank, thank you for stepping in

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for Jesse.

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Jesse.

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Jesse does a lot of musical theater.

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But not a lot of TV.

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A lot of musical theater not behind the screen but

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on the stage.

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Yep, Lisa, it should be no surprise that Jesse also

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owns a vintage shop called Kelsey Vintage or does his

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knowledge of technology is also vintage.

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Yes, rooted in nineteen forties.

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So right now he's cranking up his gradmophone, hopefully hoping

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he can use he can hear.

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Something when you're ready.

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Please he's obviously, I.

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Mean, he's your probably without him and just yeah.

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Too funny. Well drive safe.

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Whatever he's doing. I don't know what he's doing. I

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hope he's okay, Frank.

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I wanted to I wanted to focus a little bit

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on you do movies, you do film on television, You've

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worked with PBS. You've worked in the movie industry on film,

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what can you tell our listeners out there who want

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to get more involved in acting and getting more involved

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in making connections to maybe take that route.

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Yeah, well, look, I mean I have we lost Jesse

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by the way, everybody, that's why it's quiet, no I

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I yeah, I mean, look, I've been doing it since

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I'm nineteen years old, So it's a matter of there's

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sometimes there's longevity in the business where you stick around

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long enough, you start to make some headway. And I

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think that's probably part of it. I'd like to think

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I was a little talented along the way. But you know,

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the film and TV business has changed so much over

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the past thirty five years that I've been a part

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of it, and it's been kind of it's changed every

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five to six years really, So the old adage of

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you know, get to the major centers, you know, I

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think still, I think still is the way.

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To do it.

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I know that we've become so digital and we've become

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so remote. Now you can work from anywhere, but it's

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all about gaining experience, you know, having that experience. Having

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that now it's a little easier for me in some respects,

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and it's a lot harder in other respects because as

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you get, as you get sort of quote unquote more

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popular or bigger, you're now going up against people that

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you know, people know, so the job become harder to

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get and I often like, right now, I mean just

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I don't know when this is.

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you listen to this right now, I'm up for a

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major role opposite Nicholas Cage for something right, which is writing.

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But I also realized that, you know, it's me and

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seven guys that you've seen on the latest whatever shows.

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in the rung below and I was going up against

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people that were unknowns, and I feel like my talent,

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you know, could shine through that. But now it's become

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more about the popularity side of things, so you're up

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against people that have huge social media followings or names,

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and it becomes a little more difficult. But entry level wise,

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you could do it in any market, you know, it's

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just a matter of putting yourself out there, getting the

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right technical things in place. Today you can audition from

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like we are right now, you could be on your laptop,

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on your at your desk, putting in auditions and auditioning

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for things all over the world. Does it mean you're

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going to be you know you're going to get them? No,

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not necessarily, but you can do it. It's a lot

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more accessible than it was when I first started. But yeah,

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it's it's about putting in the putting in the work.

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it's not just like anybody could just go an audition.

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You want to go through the training, you want to

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take the you want to make an investment. It's not

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about the money. It's about the value you put into

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yourself and it's the knowledge you gain and the people

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seriously as a craft. Right, Like I always used to

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say this in my acting classes. You know you want

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to be a doctor. You can't just show up at

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the hospital and start operating, right. You need to go

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put in the work. And there are certain professions that

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mandate it for you. They tell you you have to

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you need this, you need this, you need a degree,

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you need eight years of school.

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You can't be a lawyer unless you have a B

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and C.

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But our business, as we all know, the creative business.

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we're going to trust that you know how to play,

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but you know, anybody considered a piano and then start

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to go play somewhere right, Like comedy is a great example.

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You just go to your local club and write three

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jokes and you can get up on stage. You can

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sing anywhere. You can pretend to be an actor, you can.

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But if you're really going to take yourself serious you

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want to make a career out of it, whether it

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be music or you know, acting and dance, you're gonna

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need training and you're gonna need it at a at

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a high level if you want to compete with that

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level of people. So yeah, so I went right to

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three years straight. I did a four year program in

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three years in New York, and then did more training

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and got private teachers and and then you learn by doing,

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technical proficiency, right, I would I would equate it to

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music where you've taken your lessons right and you know

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music theory and you know, but then you join a band,

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and that's really where you learn how to play with

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people and you know, so there's a lot of things

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that that are there that go into it. But yeah,

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if you take yourself seriously, then people will as well.

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Great, And it's like music being a musician, it's never ending.

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It's always like there's always something more to learn. There's

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always something more to do, or maybe a song for

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me that I've played ten times, like, oh wait, I

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could play it a little differently. And you play music

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as well, you can always improve your own skill. It's

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almost as if I'll speak for myself, I am my

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own competition.

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Yeah, there's no question because you're you know, especially with music.

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I think you know, like you just said, we could

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play the same song you and I at the piano,

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or sing a song or whatever. The key that makes

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you unique is our own interpretation of it, and you

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can have It's like having an opinion. You could have

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an informed opinion or you could just have an opinion.

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So if it's.

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Informed, that means that your your take on it comes

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through years of work, years of you know, playing in music,

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and years.

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Of watching You're just gonna have to watch the watch

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the show Live's so glad.

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But am I really here? Can you hear me?

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I can hear you.

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I did it, I did it. Oh what did I miss?

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H Well, you missed your own bio, which I gave

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as best I could, because we asked how we got

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to where we got here, and I kind of gave what.

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I remember everything of you because we've known each other

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so long and I knowing knowing your work locally and

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before you met me and all that stuff.

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But oh, yes, looks great.

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It's good to see.

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Yeah, we've got to hear a little background about your

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journey in musical theater and your journey in being with

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the joke.

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Okay, why does my head look bigger than everybody else's.

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That's just who you are.

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That's just who you are. I hate to break it you. Yeah,

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that's you're just talking my head.

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Look, no, no, come back, keep it close, keep it close.

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The Jove, Wow, the Jove journey.

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I'm sure they already told you about the twenty two

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years ago where we we uh where I worked for

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Frank at the studio in theater and we were doing

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you know, normal acting stuff, and then try I was

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sauntered in from Boston and a lightning struck.

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He'd like to mosey in. He mosied in, and yeah,

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we started doing.

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Shows, and there's a you know, a quarter almost a

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quarter century ago, my head was a lot smaller than

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and I'm not I'm not musical theater.

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Really, I've been in a couple of musicals.

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I was more of the guy that would put on

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very little clothing and run around on stage.

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Frank and Travis have the voices. I'm just more of

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the body.

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I don't know if he's ever heard Travis sing, but a.

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Beautiful boy like a songbird.

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But you do teach theater, you I don't.

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Teach the musical theater. I mean, I can fake it

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till I make it, But I do teach theater. That's

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where I am now. I'm in the theater. Now, that's

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where I was going the Hells of ninety five. That's

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I figured nothing would be more entertaining than seeing my

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large head in a car on nine to ninety five,

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coming right.

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Thank you.

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I just figured all of the watchers and listeners would

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want to see that as I struggling technology.

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Well, thank you for making the time to be with

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us today and tell our audience because a lot of

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people out there that are listening are thinking about getting

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involved with either acting or playing an instrument, or even

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musicians that are just getting started. Like your performance like

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you do musical theater, Like how important your performance is

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on stage. You don't just have to play an instrument,

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you have to show up and perform. Can you give

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us a little background on your teaching techniques on that?

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Oh for me, sure, Yeah.

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I teach from ages seven years old to I've just

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student new seventy seven, so it's never you're never too old.

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I have a lot of recent students the last couple.

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Of years that say, I did it in college, I

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did it when I was younger, and I miss it

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and I want to get back, and they're relighting that flame.

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So to speak.

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So, yeah, whatever you feel you're talented in, I think

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it's more of the expression of the art of you

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just going and doing it and enjoying it versus whether

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you know you feel you're good enough or not. I

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think if you enjoy it, I think that fuels most everything.

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It's just your your passion for it, your love, and

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just it's in your blood.

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You got to do it, that's it.

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You got to do it.

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You gotta do it.

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No, Travis, you are. You're each so special and talented

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in your own way. Travis, you bring to the table.

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That sounds a little badcaded Lisa, in.

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Your own way.

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I want to know what way I want Travis to

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explain his way of being talented.

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I can't wait.

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On, Lisa, go on you you have.

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I always wanted to be a part of the show.

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This is so exciting. You don't know how many times

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I wish that you guys would like pick on me

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like I want to be in the background, like raising

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my hand.

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I got a ticket picking on ourselves that anybody else.

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I'm sorry, Lisa, that's okay.

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You do.

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You offer coaching, and I've read your Confidence Book. I'm

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almost done with it. But I've read your Confidence Book

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most of it, and I've learned so much from it.

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Confidence you guys are cracking me up. Confidence is so

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important on stage, let alone in like sports. Can you

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tell our audience, can you share with us a little

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bit about your Book of Confidence and how that applies

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to performing on stage?

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Yeah? Well, the most important part of the Confidence Book,

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or or my use of confidence, Lisa, is you know

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so the book title is called confidence is overrated, yes,

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because I think in you know, in our line of work,

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whether whether you're an entertainer or or trying to be

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successful performing at anything at a high level, I think

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there's that idea that unless I feel confident, I can't

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be good at I can't be good at what I do.

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And so as you know, think of the reasons that

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people wouldn't want to go take an acting class or

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a music class or do something like that because they

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know that they're probably not going to be really good

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at it. So there's not a lot of confidence on

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the front end. There might be excitement on the front end,

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but there's probably not a lot of confidence that they're

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going to be good at it. But when, but when

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it comes to developing a sense of comfort on stage

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as a performer, whether you're a musician or an actor

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or really I think Frank and Jesse would would agree

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that anyone who in any pursuit of their career of

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what they're doing, uh to have taken an acting class,

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you know, whether it's an improvisation class, but even in

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an acting class in general. You know, Frank talked about

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having an experience, there's really kind of no you know,

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replacement for experience, and so by just getting up on stage,

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getting up in front of people, have to get comfortable

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with those nerves, Lisa, you know, and I think it's

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maybe we start to call it confidence at some point,

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but I think it's it's a comfort with a comfort

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with the nerves, a familiarity with the nerves where or

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maybe less intimidated by them, and not having them prevent

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us from moving forward like like it does at the beginning.

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And so my my job as a coach, and you know,

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I really kind of got into the coaching space and

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the mindset performance space, you know, after finding improvisation. And

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so for me, improvisation was such a great tool to

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help people with mindset and performance because it forces you

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to have to stay in the present moment, to think

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on your feet with what is happening in the moment,

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and then to be adaptable and flexible and a problem solver.

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And I think by getting training around that, whether it's

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acting or whatever it is, it just sets you up

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for whatever career path that you're on.

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I love that. I love that, and I've there's a

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book called Talent is Overrated.

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I forgot the author, but yes, Daniel Coil maybe I

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think Yeah.

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I think so everyone is talented. It's a matter of

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what I mentioned earlier, is what you the time and

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attention you put into learning. It's the value you put

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into yourself. It's not oh my god, I got to

478
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.680
spend this kind of money. It's well, what's the value

479
00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:33.359
that you're giving yourself. It's not you know, we put

480
00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:35.759
too much emphasis on on what we're buying, what we're

481
00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:38.440
spending on, but what is it that you're getting back?

482
00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.640
Yeah, And I think just that idea, you know, it's

483
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.359
the difference between fixed mindset and growth mindset. You know,

484
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:46.240
a lot of people still believe in that fixed mindset,

485
00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:48.440
which is well, you'll hear people say like, well, I'm

486
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.240
just not wired that way, or I wasn't born with that,

487
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:53.920
or I you know, and it's like, well, yeah, because

488
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:56.920
most of us aren't sort of born with things. We

489
00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:01.440
all have certain strengths and weaknesses that come more naturally

490
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:08.039
to others. But the idea that uh, there's not there's

491
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.799
not room for improvement, and and someone can have very

492
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:14.880
low ability in a skill set, but by dedicating getting

493
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:17.079
the right training and putting in the time and the

494
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:20.359
effort the practice to it can become really proficient, if

495
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:23.480
not excellent, right at that thing. And so I think

496
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:27.319
we still kind of use that that fixed mindset as

497
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:29.519
a as an excuse for people to not pursue things

498
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:30.200
that they're interested in.

499
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:32.880
Here and you have another book called Yes.

500
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:36.920
It's Three Words for Getting Unstuck. It's live Yes and

501
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:37.319
and for.

502
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:39.480
Those of you who don't know, I remember the yes part.

503
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:43.559
Yeah yeah, yeah, yes and being the basis of improvisation.

504
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:48.680
And so it's it's my attempt at how we can

505
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:53.480
apply some of these principles of improvisation to getting unstuck

506
00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:55.319
in some of the aspects of our life.

507
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:57.640
And for our listeners out there and those that are

508
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.319
watching as well, how do we how do we cannnect

509
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:02.359
with getting your milk? Where do we go? Do you

510
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:04.519
have a website? Or do we just go to Amazon?

511
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:06.680
And you know what, you can make it quick and

512
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:09.279
easy if you go to Amazon right now? Both books

513
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:09.839
are there?

514
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.279
Yeah, okay, nice, nice Travis? What show do you have

515
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.720
coming up next at the theater? Thank you, Travis.

516
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.799
You're welcome of me or Jesse Lisa, Well, now I was.

517
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:26.000
Asking Jesse about what show he has coming up next

518
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:26.640
at the theater.

519
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.240
We have an adult community theater production called The Master

520
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.400
I'm sorry, The Serving of Two Masters. That's the first

521
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.119
two weekends in April, and then we're doing we have

522
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:39.160
a children's production in May called Game of Tiaras. So

523
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.359
those are our next two productions that we're doing, and

524
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.680
we don't have a joke on the lineup. Have to

525
00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.240
see what the we've got to work on the gentlemen

526
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.720
with better backgrounds, what their schedules are available.

527
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:53.240
And Jesse usually, well, I've seen a couple of plays

528
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.519
there and you are not only a teacher, but you're

529
00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.480
an actor that gets involved with with your class, which

530
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.160
is huge because you're not just you know, you don't

531
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.359
come across as the authoritarian. You come across as a

532
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:11.720
team player, and so that is not intimidating and actually

533
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.640
I think as a student very welcoming.

534
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:14.440
Sure.

535
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.119
Yeah, I enjoy the process and like to have fun.

536
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.039
And for years, you know, when Frank and I did

537
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:22.680
Christmas Carol, he was Scrooge and I was Marley and

538
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.920
kids were kids, and I love getting in there to be,

539
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:26.400
you know.

540
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:28.440
Do the shows with them. It's super fun.

541
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.200
It kind of raises the bar for them and gives

542
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:35.039
them a little bit more accountability, and then I've last year,

543
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:36.799
I was just an actor in a show and got

544
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.000
directed by somebody else and loved it and really enjoyed

545
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:39.680
that process.

546
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.119
Oftentimes it's you're you're.

547
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:44.960
A chief, and sometimes it's nice to be an Indian

548
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.559
every once in a while and just get better at

549
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.839
what you do and just enjoy that process versus how

550
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:51.559
he's having to be in charge and pay in control.

551
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.519
And so sometimes it's it's a little bit of both,

552
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:56.720
where you get to, you know, almost direct yourself and

553
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.480
the kids and just enjoy the process, have fun, learn

554
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:00.640
and grow and enjoy it.

555
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.559
That's great. I love that advice. Frank uh I han't

556
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.599
seen the movie Walt Disney or was it just Walt?

557
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:08.920
Yeah?

558
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.680
Well, and you you were fabulous in that film. Could

559
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.119
you share with the audience a little bit about what

560
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.079
it's like to be on film as an actor, what

561
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:18.240
the experience is?

562
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.880
Yeah? Yeah, that was a that one was dear to

563
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.319
my heart. I actually wrote that movie and produced it

564
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:28.119
as well, so I kind of got to and I

565
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:30.359
didn't write myself. That carriage a real person that I

566
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.960
played in that movie. But you know, every experience on

567
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.880
film to me is there's two aspects to you know,

568
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.079
being on film, in film and TV. There's the there's

569
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.319
the technical aspect that I think is the hardest to

570
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:47.720
get to get uh to get over and and where

571
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:53.640
where it's it becomes a process more than it becomes

572
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:55.720
something organic like I love this guy.

573
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:58.920
You guys got to watch this out there.

574
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.559
You have to be actually.

575
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.720
Even speak seriously. No, you know, film is Film is

576
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:07.640
a technical medium.

577
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.119
So I would say of anything that I do, film

578
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.359
is probably as a creative in the actual doing process

579
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:19.200
the least quote unquote fun only because it's so technical,

580
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.759
right and and and that's okay.

581
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:24.640
It's a it's something that you have to sort of

582
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:25.720
be prepared for.

583
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.680
It's not like being in theater, on stage or on

584
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.880
a live stage within any sort of way. So it's

585
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:34.680
a technical medium that that can see can sometimes be

586
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.160
a little tedious. Obviously, there have been different types of

587
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.920
types of moments. That movie specifically was an indie project

588
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.160
that that I produced and and and wrote. And there

589
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:47.119
was a whole other aspect to that because I was

590
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:51.359
also producing, so the understanding of time and budget and

591
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.440
all the other things. I also cast that movie, so

592
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.640
there was a lot going on for me to do

593
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.920
that role, and so when I actually got to act

594
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.519
in the movie, it was a relief because it was

595
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.920
the easiest thing, even though that role was very difficult.

596
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:08.880
He was a Yugoslavian Jew who stutters, which for an Italian,

597
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:12.599
you know, it's a bit of a stretch. But when

598
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.359
I finally got to do the role, it was almost

599
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.160
like I don't have to worry about who's on set,

600
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.680
what's happening, where's the next location. So it was actually

601
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:23.519
relief to actually act in that.

602
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:26.200
Yeah, that's awesome.

603
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.720
So I have some experience, maybe not to your level,

604
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.279
but I will say to the audience out there when

605
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:39.359
it comes to performing on theater in comparison to film,

606
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.920
from my experience, on film, you're on film, you have

607
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.400
a take, take one, take two, take three, and that's it.

608
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.519
You're done. Where theater it's usually like three four times

609
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.160
a week you're you're rehearsing and then you have your

610
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.920
show Friday, Saturday, Sunday and sometimes for two weeks in

611
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.759
a row. But you have that that practice time. So

612
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.880
there's a difference between theater and film acting because of

613
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.559
the presence and the performance you have to put into it.

614
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.720
Yeah, it's it's again the process is different. Like you know,

615
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.920
you talk about takes right like when I you know,

616
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.200
obviously having done a ton of theater before film and TV,

617
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.799
you know, doing nine shows a week of the same show, yes,

618
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.960
affords you a few things depending like and again most

619
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.119
people that don't work. You know, if you're working on

620
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.160
a you know, on an off Broadway equity showcase, you're

621
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.200
only doing twelve shows, but that twelve show run, like

622
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.319
you said, Friday Saturday Sunday, let's say, or Thursday, Friday Saturday.

623
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:36.440
You have it for four weeks.

624
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:39.279
There's an end goal, and you go, Okay, every night

625
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.160
you're trying something different, but you're trying something different for

626
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.480
an hour and a half where you're in character and

627
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:46.400
you're you're immersed.

628
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:46.680
In that world.

629
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.079
And so typically by the twelfth fill you got the

630
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.799
you kind of got the character, and then it's and

631
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.759
then it closes. I had the experience of multiple times

632
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.960
where I could do hundreds of shows of the same character,

633
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.200
and then by the time you were done that you

634
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.759
have now lived in that character's life in so many

635
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:09.640
different ways, with so many different elements and energies. Because

636
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.759
every audience feels different in all those things. In film,

637
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.599
the challenge in film is twofold. It's you have a

638
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.559
character's story, this arc, and let's say from page one

639
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.640
to page one hundred and ten, you have this arc.

640
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.759
Well, you might be filming page.

641
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.640
Sixty five first, so now you have to do all

642
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:32.240
your pre work, prep work prior to shooting. You have

643
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.640
to find through lines, and that's where a director comes

644
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.359
in handy. You have to make sure that your character

645
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.640
is consistent so that when we put this all together

646
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:41.319
and we stitch it in the editing room, it actually

647
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:42.559
looks like you made the journey.

648
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.599
And then you've got maybe.

649
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.680
If you're a well, i'll just call myself if you're

650
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:49.519
a B level actor. And what I mean by B

651
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.079
level is I'm not Tom Cruise. I don't get everything

652
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.359
I want, how long I want to do whatever I want? Okay,

653
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.319
Then you know, once you get on set, you got

654
00:32:58.359 --> 00:32:59.920
to know your stuff and you're probably not going to

655
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:00.480
get more.

656
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.480
Than two to three takes at one scene.

657
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.599
So you have to create that moment, that little two

658
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.440
page scene, which in theater you've had weeks and weeks

659
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.400
to rehearse, and now by the nineteenth show you've got

660
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:12.720
it down and you know the timing.

661
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.319
But in film, you've maybe done one.

662
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.319
Blockthrough and you maybe haven't even gone to a table

663
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.799
read if you're not one of the major stars, and

664
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.960
so you've got three takes to nail that part and

665
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.200
hope that you're doing service to the lead, because that's

666
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.519
really what you're doing when you're a supporting actor, you're

667
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.799
doing service to the story and the leads. And then

668
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:33.759
then you don't get to do it ever again and

669
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:37.759
it's gone. And that's the difference is that now now

670
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.720
on the flip side, it lives on forever. At performance

671
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.480
that you only had a finite amount of time to

672
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:49.119
prepare for, aute takes nothing and then is on and

673
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.400
you have it forever. Theater which you work, you're in

674
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.599
six weeks and then you do a show for three

675
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.559
years you'll never see again, and you'll never see each

676
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.920
performance ever, and so it's it's a very it's a

677
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:07.400
unique blend of things makes it exciting. Both are exciting

678
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.440
in different ways because when the movie comes out, you're

679
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.760
seeing your performance for the first time and you hope

680
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.639
it worked. But in theater, you know, the excitement is

681
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.320
you've gotten to do that hundreds of times and you've

682
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:20.639
gotten to hone it and change it and work with it.

683
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:24.599
And I think that's what makes live performance, you know,

684
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.239
more fun, is.

685
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:27.599
Because there's that thing, you know.

686
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.599
And I just want to add something that what Travis

687
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.400
was talking about. I think we talk about confidence, but

688
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.599
I think it's the wrong word sometimes. I think the

689
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.320
really the word is courage. I think it's the courage.

690
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:39.079
Right.

691
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:40.920
We were taught you talking about to get out there,

692
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.039
and do you need the courage to start anything?

693
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:45.800
Then you can live a.

694
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:50.159
Long time with misplaced confidence where you get out there

695
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.800
and you just know, I'm just gonna do it.

696
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:53.320
Yeah.

697
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.880
When the real confidence comes in is after you've done

698
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.519
the work and you really know your craft, then you

699
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.000
can go out there and confidently be free.

700
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:06.239
It's like Lisa, it's like learning.

701
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:10.599
The music right, like learning knowing the time, signature, learning everything.

702
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:13.239
Then you can go out and play the piece. Then

703
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.400
you can add your nuance. But in the structure you're

704
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.159
confident in the structure where when you first begin you

705
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.719
can be confident, but it's really misplaced because there should

706
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.519
there's no reason for you to be confident. You could

707
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:29.880
be courageous to get out there, But you can't be

708
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.559
really confident going into something. You're fooling yourself if you

709
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:38.719
think you know the NCAA game you're going in. You're

710
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:41.159
playing an opponent maybe you haven't played yet or you

711
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.519
just played once. You really don't know their schemes. You

712
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.360
won't know anything. You don't know the way the game's

713
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:46.840
going to go. You haven't been on the floor yet,

714
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.039
you don't know how tight the nets are, you don't

715
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:50.039
know any of that stuff.

716
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.159
You're going in with courage.

717
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:56.000
And probably a little misplaced confidence, but this comes as

718
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.400
you start to understand the flow.

719
00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.119
Would you agree with that trap?

720
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:00.360
Yeah?

721
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:02.559
I think, you know, in the book, I think the

722
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:06.760
differentiation I make and sometimes we use them interchangeably, which

723
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.599
I completely understand. But as I'm working with athletes, especially

724
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.119
the the we I'll use belief instead of confidence.

725
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:15.719
Yep.

726
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.559
And usually whenever I'm working with an athlete and you know,

727
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.440
these are these are professional athletes, and they they tell

728
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:26.440
me that they're struggling with their confidence. After just kind

729
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.000
of talking and listening to them for a little bit,

730
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.960
I you know, I'll usually ask him I said, hey,

731
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.119
do you believe in your ability? And they'll be like yeah,

732
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.599
one hundred percent. I was like, do you uh you

733
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.360
have you done everything that's been asked of you preparation

734
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.599
wise by the coaches? And yeah, I put in all

735
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:42.440
the time and all the work. All right, So I said,

736
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.400
so you believe? I said, do you believe that whatever

737
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.960
is asked of you by the coach or the situation,

738
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.039
that you have the ability to do it? He's like one,

739
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.719
per I was like, all right, So, so belief is

740
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.239
based on belief is based on evidence. Right. Confidence is

741
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.639
a feeling like the stock market go up and down.

742
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.199
I might sleep wrong, get out of bed and go, wow,

743
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.000
I've got a big game today. I just don't feel great.

744
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:07.880
I don't feel confident. But then I say, do you

745
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.960
believe in yourself? Absolutely one? And believe myself great? And

746
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.320
so confidence if you just see it as like an emotion,

747
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.199
as a feeling that could just kind of come and go.

748
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.119
We don't necessarily control it. But what we do control

749
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.760
is what we do choose to think about and to

750
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:26.039
focus on. And just like anything else, whether it's sports

751
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:30.199
or whether it's the arts or as a musician, Lisa like,

752
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:33.039
if you've got a big show that you're putting on,

753
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:37.199
you know a performance and if all I if all

754
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.519
I talk about in preparation is Lisa, how do you feel?

755
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.480
How do you feel the big how do you feel?

756
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.039
How do you feel compared to Hey, Lisa, what do

757
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.239
you need to do during the performance to have a consistent,

758
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.880
precise performance? And you're going to go, well, I need

759
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:54.599
to make sure that I and you're going to tell

760
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.320
me the behaviors and actions that you need to focus

761
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.400
on to have a good performance. Now, which is more

762
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.000
important those behaviors and actions that you need to focus

763
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:03.960
on or how you feel the actions?

764
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:08.960
I will both the actions, but also as a woman,

765
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.719
I think how we feel affects what you know, how

766
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.320
we're going to take our steps.

767
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.840
But we kind of have to set that aside sometimes.

768
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.480
But I think funny enough, call me silly, but I

769
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.480
think men are more sensitive than women. And I and

770
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:29.519
I mean, I think that's that's not honored enough, because

771
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.599
you guys get up on stage, you show up. You

772
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.519
you know, you carry a lot and you do a

773
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.320
lot and you don't get the recognition for it. And

774
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:43.440
I think, you know, I think even I teach I

775
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.840
teach young kids and I always tell them, you know,

776
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.079
be kind to yourself, be patient with yourself, because that's

777
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.239
something that I think is so important that we have

778
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:53.719
to always remind ourselves no matter what our age is.

779
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:57.920
And you know, it's important to feel good, Like you said,

780
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.760
it's important to wake up and feel good and you

781
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.880
know and know that you're going to have a great day,

782
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:04.920
a great performance, because if you wake up you didn't

783
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:08.519
sleep well, you're not going to feel like as confident

784
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.079
or as courageous as you would if you are feeling

785
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:13.480
good or feeling great.

786
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.280
But I would actually kind of say the opposite, Lisa,

787
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:20.960
that it's less important how you feel when you wake

788
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.119
up because we can't control that, right, we can't control

789
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.840
I think I made her freeze or I froze, yes, right,

790
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:33.079
all right, yeah, so so so again Lisa, you know,

791
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.760
from a performance standpoint, we want to be able to

792
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.079
put our energy into the things that we can control.

793
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:41.519
And my my feelings, my feelings are not one of them.

794
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:45.119
And so what what can I control? I can control

795
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.679
the actions and the behaviors that I need to execute

796
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.320
in order to do the job. And it's just like you,

797
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.920
it's like, how you know, do you only do you

798
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.280
only practice when you feel motivated? To practice.

799
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.639
No, sometimes I'm like, I have do it.

800
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.239
Right because because you have to do it, because it's

801
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.599
required in order to get better. I have to do it,

802
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:09.519
but I don't feel like it. And then you say, well,

803
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.880
what does feeling have to do with it? Oh, I'm sorry,

804
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.320
go ahead, Yeah, no, go ahead. So I was always.

805
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.239
Say this is great because so many people they have

806
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.159
a difficult time getting away from stage anxiety. This is

807
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:26.320
huge because what we're talking about is if we get

808
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:31.039
away from focusing on the feeling, which is not it's unsettling,

809
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:36.320
it's not consistent, and it's not it's not stable. It's

810
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.840
not a stable feeling, it's not security. But if we

811
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:41.960
focus on the job itself and what needs to be done,

812
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:43.880
we take away that anxiety.

813
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.079
Yeah, it's it's it's think of it. It's shifting, shifting

814
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:51.559
my focus. Right, if I'm focusing on feelings, I'm focusing

815
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.880
on literally just how I feel. But if I'm now

816
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.880
focused on actions and behaviors, now I'm moving, I'm doing,

817
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:01.880
I'm doing the things that create the results. And the

818
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.280
more I think we can all relate the more once

819
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.119
we start doing the thing, we're less focused on how

820
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:07.679
we feel.

821
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.639
I'll add to that, Yeah, in two quick things. One,

822
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.360
I think what we're really talking about here, like I'll

823
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.639
give you. When I used to corporate teach, the first

824
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.119
thing I would have people do is it have them

825
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:21.119
get up on stage. And I would let half the

826
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.119
group get up on stage and just stand there and

827
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.079
I'd say, I want you to observe each other. So

828
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.840
the audience would say, we'd sit in silence for about

829
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.280
sixty seconds and I would just have them look at

830
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:35.400
each other and the amount of awkwardness that was on

831
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.519
that stagelen of just like now. I would do that

832
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:42.280
with both groups, and then I would say, all right,

833
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.760
the first group come back up. I'm gonna I want

834
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.880
you to account how many lighting instruments there are in

835
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.119
this theater right now. And they would start to count,

836
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.639
and immediately you would notice the relaxed Everybody would relax

837
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.480
because they were no longer focused on themselves. There's you know,

838
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.920
as performers in any thing, by the way, and that's

839
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.400
why you take improv and acting in business. When you're

840
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.360
only focused and this is a lesson in life. When

841
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.760
you're only focused on yourself, the amount of judgment and

842
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.679
self conscious and like second guessing that goes on is

843
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.840
it's it's endless and really it means fear. I think

844
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:18.360
Travis would agree with that part.

845
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.400
I think we're really just saying fear.

846
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.679
But as soon as you have a to do an

847
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.199
objective and you say, my only concern right now is

848
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.920
to fulfill the objective. Okay, it sounds robotic, but really,

849
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:35.599
then all the energies in your body go towards, step

850
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.000
by step what do I need to do? And you

851
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.239
will be surprised how calm your body comes immediately as

852
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.159
soon as you stop thinking about yourself.

853
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.079
And it's a.

854
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.199
Lesson in life. And I think that's part of present mindedness.

855
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.960
You know, when you're present minded, you're really just looking

856
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.880
at like right now, I'm just with the three of you, right, Yes,

857
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.159
I've already even though it's funny, I've already left forgotten

858
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.639
that Jesse was a a train wreck coming in.

859
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.880
Are right right? But we're now here.

860
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.800
This is all we have this moment, and now everything

861
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:11.519
I just said thirty three seconds ago is gone. So

862
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.000
Tiger Woods had I think Travis knows this cool better

863
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:14.280
than I do.

864
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:15.280
Tiger Woods, they.

865
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.840
Was asked at once, uh was asked uh, what did

866
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:21.239
you think? You know, how did you feel about that shot? Uh?

867
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:24.360
That you you shanked and whatever it was. I'm paraphrasing

868
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.039
in you know, in the seventh holl and he was like, oh,

869
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:28.800
I forgot about that on the eighth to holl. I

870
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:32.679
moved on to the next shot. And so that is

871
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:37.480
the mentality. Gosh, So listeners and viewers, you love the reviewer,

872
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:40.480
you know what's happening. But listeners, Jesse keeps trying to

873
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.199
come back in and so on this on this stream yard,

874
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.159
his picture keeps coming back in and then gone. So

875
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.519
we're all laughing at that right now. But anyway, he

876
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:51.280
has Listen, you gotta admire his toughness.

877
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:57.920
Yes, resilient, persistent, maybe not resilient.

878
00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:57.599
But.

879
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:02.239
Gentlemen, when we don't have an idea of the next

880
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.840
Jove show or Frank, I totally cut you off.

881
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.800
I'm sorry, no, no, no, I was done. I was good.

882
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:11.320
How do we how do we say to our audience

883
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:13.840
visit us at the Jove or or check us out.

884
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:14.920
Do we have a website?

885
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.639
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's through my company, it's through

886
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.320
my production company. It's quite Frankly entertainment dot com forward

887
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.519
slash Jove Hype in comedy.

888
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:23.760
You can see us on there.

889
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:26.719
All the shows and all the way to buy tickets

890
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:29.039
is on that is on that website, and you can

891
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:30.480
actually go to Jovecomedy dot com.

892
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:34.880
I think right direct right Joe Comedy Comedy.

893
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:39.639
And on the scroll we have Facebook the Jove Comedy

894
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:45.119
Experience or entertainment, yes, but frankly entertainment. So for our

895
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:49.480
listeners out there, if you're just tuning in, we've had

896
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.800
the Jove Experience and we've had we've had some comedy

897
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.960
here today with Jesse showing up and then disappearing. He's

898
00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:03.599
been playing the disappearing act a little bit today and

899
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:05.639
again for those that want to get in touch with

900
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.000
it and find out more about the Jove, you can

901
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:09.719
find them easily on.

902
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:14.280
Quite frankly, Jovecomedy dot com, Jovecomedy dot com.

903
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.960
Thank you and frank you are a musician as well.

904
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:21.360
You also add a little music into the show. And

905
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.880
with that being said, the purpose of my show is

906
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:29.119
to help keep music alive. We want to preserve the instrument.

907
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:33.920
We want to preserve our talent and keep teaching and

908
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.679
keep communicating through our music. And with that being said,

909
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.239
I'm in my second season and as we're closing out

910
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.719
for today, I just wanted to play a little something.

911
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:48.119
I don't have anything memorized, I don't have anything prepared.

912
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:50.400
This is just kind of in the moment and this

913
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.440
is what I like to do. So for my listeners

914
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.199
out there and for those that are watching, I'm home

915
00:45:55.199 --> 00:46:00.760
in my home studio and I appreciate you too in today,

916
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:06.880
and I'm here every Monday at four pm. So tune

917
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:11.800
in next week to find out who my next guest is.

918
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:27.280
Oh look it's Jesse. Ah, he's gone again. Gentlemen, thank

919
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:29.159
you for making the time today to be here.

920
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:34.599
Thanks for having us you bet and I will.

921
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.320
Be happy to share the next post when we are

922
00:46:38.360 --> 00:47:10.559
having our next show at the Lighthouse Theater in Jupiter, Florida.

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H m.

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Hm h.

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M hm.

926
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:35.599
H m.

927
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.039
Beautiful Lisa so.

928
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.840
Much, and again we well, we're closing up shop for

929
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:49.440
today and blessings to all of you and Jesse in

930
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:55.119
in the ether. Frank Tradus, you guys are the best

931
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:57.920
and uh and we will be in touch soon.

932
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.519
Thanks Lisa, my thank you.

933
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.679
For my listeners today. By everyone, see you next week.

934
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.800
Take take care. Bye.

935
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:15.559
Tune in next Monday, four pm Easter Time, one pm

936
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.159
Specific Time to find out who my next guest is.

937
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:24.119
I hope you enjoyed today's show. Please help me keep

938
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.880
music alive. It is so important.

939
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.320
We need each other to inspire each other.