March 9, 2026

THE SOUND OF GOLD with Nandini

THE SOUND OF GOLD with Nandini
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Season 2

Tune in today to learn how our surrounding plants are impacted by music. Meet Nandini, an author and researcher of music and plants. Listen in to learn how the synergy of sound has a major impact on our environment. 

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Music. I am so

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excited to be here with you today and for my

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listeners that continue you to tune in. Thank you for

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your continual support, and for my new listeners, thank you

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for being here. For all my listeners, my focus is

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on music, the music industry, music schools, music teachers, music venues,

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much anything to do with music, and music is so

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healing for us. It is healing because there are sounds,

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there are vibrations that we all attune to and we

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I think a lot of us don't really think about that.

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And if you're viewing, if you're watching this right now,

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you can probably see I have my cat here, who's

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on stage two. And if you can't see, just know

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that I'm in good company. We'll getting back to the music. Music,

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the fundamentals of music. The sound, the vibrations have such

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an impact on our well being, on our spirit, mind,

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boddy spirit, and I think a lot of us don't

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realize how we are so connected to Mother Nature around

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us because sound is all around us, the birds, the bees,

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the wind, and the trees. That's a rhyme and that

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sounded pretty good if I don't say so myself. But

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I want to let you know that we are so

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connected to this earth in so many ways. And I'm

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so excited today. I have such a phenomenal guest and

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our focus today on our show is the power of

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music and the power that music has on plants. And

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today I have my dear friend sitting backstage, Nandini. Welcome

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to the show.

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Thank you, Lisa, thank you so much. I'm so excited

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to be here with you today.

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Thank you, thank you, and I'm so glad that you're here.

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And gosh, there's so much I want to cover today.

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You know, you and I chatted a little bit, and

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I would love for our listeners to get an idea

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of your background, of your of your journey and what

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has impacted you to be so awake. We should argue awake,

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but what has impacted you two go along on this

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journey with Ai, with not Ai, but a plant intelligence

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and life around us.

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Well, well, my background, first of all, my corporate background

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isn't wholesale banking. I worked in London for eighteen years

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with the Lloyd's Banking Group.

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Yeah, so a very.

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I struggle with the right word to describe that career.

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You know, I could look back on it and thing,

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you know.

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I worked in an industry which really extracts from the earth,

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that does you know, really doesn't add a lot of

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value to the world.

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So that that was my background.

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And when I left wholesale banking in two thousand and eight,

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at the height of the financial crisis, I became very,

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very ill, and I guess that that was a part

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of my weakening, where through my healing process I became

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even more aware of our connection to so much more

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than we have been conditioned to believe. And one of

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the things that really came alive in me is our

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ability to heal, our ability to self heal, and how

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much the natural world gives us. So my healing journey

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has been a natural path, using the gift of the plants,

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you know, the medicine that the plants give us. So,

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you know, I had started building that connection with the

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natural world. And then a few years ago it must

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have been on Facebook. I really have no distinct memory

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of how I heard this music, but it must have

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been a real on Facebook where I suddenly heard this

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strange music. And it's very difficult to explain the effect

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it had on me. It just had a really really

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intense and deep effect on me, and I felt like

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I need to know more about this music. You know,

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what is this music? Where is it coming from? And

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the music was coming from a device called the Music

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of the Dance, so and it was playing plant music.

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So I'll just show you know, the viewers you can

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see this. This is what the device looks at like.

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This is the latest iteration of it.

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And the device has what it does.

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It converts the naturally electrical impedance between a plant's roots

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and its.

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Leaves to musical notes.

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So you have, you know, like a connection that goes

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to the plant leaf and then a connection that goes.

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Into the roots.

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And when you connect the device in that way, the

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naturally electrical impedance converts it into its converted by the

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device into musical notes. So the question then arises, well,

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why why would anybody do this? Right? So, the people

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behind this device is an ecospiritual community called Damenho in

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northern Italy, and their belief system is that at one

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time in our history we were all connected humanity or

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the nature, the plants, and nature spirits, and somewhere along

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our history we became very disconnected. And their mission is

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a reconnection of what they called a three mother worlds,

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which is humanity, the plant world, and nature spirits. And

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I found all of this very very fascinating, and as

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I said, the music touched me very very deeply, and

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I felt it had to be a part of my life.

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And as a writer.

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When I left my corporate career, I became a freelance

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writer and a ghost writer, and I thought, well, I

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need to write about this. And then I thought, well,

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you know, as adults, we are already so very conditioned

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to see ourselves as separate from nature. You know, I thought, well,

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the audience that I really need to speak to is children,

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because they still have that or an inherent connection with

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the natural world which hasn't been conditioned out of them. Sure,

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so I ended up writing I'd never been, you know,

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a children's author before, but I ended up writing the

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very first children's book on the music.

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Of the plants.

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So when I created my platform, I really wanted it

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to be a means of reimagining children's education around nature,

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because you know, the public education system really doesn't have

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much of that. You know, you would learn the mechanics of, say, synthesis.

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You know, you will learn the mechanics.

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Of how our plant grows and what we can take

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from the world, but the real magic and aree of

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what happens in the natural world is not part of

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that education. And being connected with the natural world and

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learning from the natural world.

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Is certainly not part of that education.

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So I really wanted to create a platform to reimagine children's.

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Education around me.

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And one thing that struck me when I was trying

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to find a name, you know.

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A suitable name for that platform, I found out, quite

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by a surprise, that my own name in Sanskrit, you know,

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like how some words have meanings in different contexts.

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So I understood the translation of my name from Hindi

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to English, but I had never come across a translation

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of my name from Sanskrit to English.

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And as it turned out my name in Sanskrit translated

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to a musical composition.

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Wow, I just got the chills.

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So my you know, my my family, my friends, they

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shortened my name to Nandy.

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You know, they don't say Nandy, they.

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Say Nandy and Nandi in Sanskrit as well, you know,

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refers to like a musical note to musical composition. So

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I then decided to name my platform Nandy. So that's

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how I came across that name, and I created When

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I wrote my book, I created a character a young.

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Girl who pairs.

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The music in nature by a fairy. A fairy comes

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to her and shares the nature with her.

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So I wanted children to you know, be aware that yes.

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There is music out there and that you know, like

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a child will come and say to you, I saw

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a fairy and of course it's missus imagination.

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Yes, how are we to know? Right?

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We are conditioned to think that we should only believe

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in something if science tells us it's correct.

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And as science progresses and developed, science is you know,

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proving so many.

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Things that we you know that we would have probably.

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Dismissed in years, right, So I use that story to

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you know, tell children.

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Yes, have that imagination.

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If you think that you've seen a fairy, don't let

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anybody tell you that you haven't. You know, and please

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understand that there is music around.

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Us in everything. We amuse the world around us as music.

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I love that. Now I have a few questions, Nandy,

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for our listeners, and we have we're being viewed, but

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we also have listeners that might be driving that cannot

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see us. Can you please share with us how they

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would find your book, how would they connect with your information?

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Okay, So my website is Nandy n A N D

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I m O t P, which stands for Music of

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the Plants dot org.

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So it's Dandy m OTP dot org. And on there,

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of course, is my book.

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I've created some mini lessons sharing the intelligence and nature

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with children, and as we've discussed Lisa, I'm really working

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on a curriculum.

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The lessons that I have on there are.

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For the younger audience, say around seven eight years old, but.

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Now I'm working on a curriculum for slightly older kids, say.

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Between ten and fifteen, where.

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I want to create a curriculum that shares the intelligence

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in nature because as part of my reimagining of you know,

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children's education around nature. I want this curriculum to provide

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our foundation for our future scientists, engineers, architects, lawyers, artists, teachers,

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you know, by sharing the intelligence in the natural world,

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so that then our future creators will create solutions based

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on nature's intelligence.

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I love that. Now, I do have some question for

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you about that, but I'm gonna setting aside for a minute.

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I want to in our world we call it rewind.

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I want to rewind a little bit back to the

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device that you showed us and for our viewers out there,

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the device makes a sound that once you connect it

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to the leaf and the root. I know behind the scenes,

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I have help. So if I know behind the scenes,

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we are able to play some music to share to

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get an idea of what it sounds like. Is that

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available right now?

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She she, she.

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That's my personal recording of my just seeing a plant

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that sits on my desk. That is, you know, my partner,

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you know, and I mean I that music touches me.

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And what you know, people who use the music of

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the plants what they find. What I found is that

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the plant it's like a communication, you know, the plant

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helps me with what I need at any given moment.

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And what do you mean by that as far as

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would you say emotionally or is it something that I

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don't know if that's the right question to ask.

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No, it absolutely is.

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I mean, you know, like when I sit and meditate

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with this music, you know, like I may have a

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question or some issue that I'm grappling with, and you know,

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as happens when we meditate, sometimes you know, answers come.

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But what I've found is that with the music, it's

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just a very a more intense experience and as the music,

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you realize that the music meets you where you're at.

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It's difficult for me to put into words, but it's

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something that every person that I've spoken with who uses

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the music of the Plants will voice in their own way.

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It's a very very personal experience.

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Yes, yes, I imagine. So I'm getting emotional just thinking

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about it because we all go outside and we focus

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on myself. There's so many times where I'm outside and

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the beauty around me I will, I will, I love

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and I appreciate. But there's been so many times and

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again just being for myself, where I've taken the scenery

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for granted. And after our conversation, our mate the other day,

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and I really thought about it, and even when we

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were conversing, I didn't express it. But it is so

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touching to know and to be aware that we're not

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as human beings. We're not just here on this planet

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to just show up and do a job and and

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and go home and you know, tend to the family

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and and just do our thing, whether you know home

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and routine and whatnot. I think a lot of us

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forget about the connection we have with mother Nature. That

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it's not I mean everything that everything that's around us home,

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everything that's built from wood is taken from the tree.

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Are the paper we write on, the pencil we use

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is taken from the tree. A lot of herbs that

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we cook with are taken from the plant, A lot

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of herbs for healing, for for incense, for sense. I mean,

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it's just the more we think about it, the more

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we're aware of it. And I mean, you've been doing

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the research, you've got received awards for the book that

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you've received, You've there's so much more you can talk

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on off of this from me than I can share.

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things that we don't really think about You know that

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the food we eat, you know, like a book that

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we pick up, you know.

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It has come from a tree. But the very basic

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part of our existence is our ability to breathe. The

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air we breathe is provided by the trees.

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The trees were here before us.

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A plant world was here before we even became possible

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on this planet. So we have evolved from the plants,

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and it's not something that we really think about. So

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something that I you know, mollo over a lot is

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how and when did we become so disconnected from the

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very thing that has given us life, you know.

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And I wonder about.

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The indigenous communities around the world who we have unfairly

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labeled as savage, because you know, they have lived in

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connection with the natural world. They respect the natural world

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in a way that we've not been conditioned to. They

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understand that without the health of the natural world, we

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have no health.

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Person that I'd really like to mention before we run

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out of time is Robin Wall Kimerara. She is a botanist,

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a scientist highly recognized in her field, but she's also

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a Native American and she has written a book called

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Reading Sweet Grass which I highly recommend to everyone.

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It's a beautifully written book.

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But one of the things that Robin wall Kimrara asks

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us to do is to consider our language around the

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natural world. You know, so when we look at a tree,

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we say it. You know, when we look at an animal,

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we say it. But in indigenous communities.

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They would refer to our tree as a person, a

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planned person.

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They refer to the plants as our brothers and sisters.

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And I find that so very beautiful. So, yeah, what

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call chimera?

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She has tried to come up with a word that

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that would help us to change our language around how

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we interact with, you know, how we refer to the

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natural world around us. And she has you know, she

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uses this word from her native language. And I won't

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even try to say it our butcher the pronunciation, but

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the last syllable of that word is key, right, So

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she says, how about if we refer to a plant,

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an animal, a rock, a mountain, a river, every aspect

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of the natural world around us, not as it but

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as key and the plural of that word. She says,

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how about if we call it kin? And we already

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have an understanding of the word kin something we are

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related to, you know. And I found that just so

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very beautiful.

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So now when I speak of my plant, I don't

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see it.

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I say key, Key needs water today. He is asking

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me for watered Key looks beautiful today. You know, you

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can practice it with your cats, Lisa. You know, instead

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of saying head, you say key. You know, if you're

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not calling them by their names, you know, And it's

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just double way because language, excuse me, really affects how

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we see what we're talking about and how we perceive it.

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So when we change.

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Our language around things, then we change how we perceive it.

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So I just wanted to make sure that that was

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part of our conversation.

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Thank you, thank you. Yes, And that's so true how

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we express our words. I've had a conversation with my

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husband many times and I said words have meaning, and

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he's like, what's the meaning you give it? I go, well,

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yes and no, but it has meaning. You can't just

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throw something out and not have a reaction to something

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that might be uh, might be something that's misunderstood. But

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in addition, I want I want to talk more about

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this uh, and I want to go back to the schooling.

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in our conversation, in our sharing of communication, you had

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brought up matriarch and patriarch and and the mother nature,

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the world around us, the plant life, and matriarch patriarch

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we think of, I think of mom and dad. But

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please tell me how you've researched matriarch and patriarch and

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how you find matriarch to be key to be the

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focus for our our world around us, our natural world.

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So there's a reason that we refer to nature as

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mother nature, you know, because what nature teach us is

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how to thrive through cooperation. You know. There are so

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many different species of plants, so many different species of animals,

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and yes there is predation, Yes there is competition, but

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it all comes to a thriving and balance.

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So, patriarchy is very linear, and it's very hierarchical, you know,

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and it's a very it's a dominator paradigm that you

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need to add something that is on top, a person

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who is on top, something that comes, you know, down

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the ladder, a person who comes down the ladder.

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So patriarchy and that's how we're.

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Conditioned to think, right, because we've had patriarchy now for

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what thousands of years, But in the history of humanity,

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patriarchy has existed for only a.

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Very very short space time. But it is what we know,

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and it is what we understand.

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It is what we have been conditioned by, I believe,

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and a lot of people are now, you know, sharing

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these ideas. You know, I've come across so many writers

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on substack who are talking about why we need matriarchy

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instead of the patriarchy. And the mistake that people make

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is that they think, well, matriarchy simply replaces patriarchy where

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you have a world dominated by men. In under matriarchy,

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you'll have a world dominated by women.

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But that is not how matriarchy works. Matriarchy is not

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linear and hierarchical. Matriarchy is circular.

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There is no person on top and there's no person underneath.

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With matriarchy, children are centered because you know, of course.

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The cliche of the children are our future.

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So airing is centered because if we don't care, then

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we have no future, you know. So I would invite

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everyone to do some research, you know, like if they

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find that that would trigger them in the wrong way

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and they think, well, you know, who wants a world

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ruled by women under matriarchy.

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That's not what matriarchy is about.

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So I really encourage everyone to do some research around

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that and find the writers. You know, like if you

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are on substack or any other platform that you're on,

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there's so many people who are writing about it.

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Thank you, Thank you, And for our listeners, please share

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again how we would get in touch with you, to

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connect with your website and your book.

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Yeah, so on my website there is a contact option,

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you know. And also I wanted to say I've mentioned

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Robin Wilkit Mora and her book Reading Sweetgrass. I also

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have a link for bookshop, my own store on bookshop

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dot org, where I have, you know, I share a

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list of books that would help people, you know, learn

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a lot more about the intelligence in nature. So if

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this conversation sparks your curiosity.

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And you want to learn more, you know, there are

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fantastic books that you can read to help you make

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that reconnection to the natural world around us.

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Very nice, And two other things before we finish up,

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because I promised a lot of my viewers and listeners

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that I played piano at the end of my show.

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The two things I want to mention The first thing

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is I know when we have, in your case, put

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in so much research, so much time, and so much

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focus on the music of the plans, I know that

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a grant would be a huge help to you. And

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I'm personally I don't have specific connections, but I want

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to mention this to our listeners that if this is

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a topic that is a focus for you and that

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you are able to support, please reach out to Nandy

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to to help her formulate some type of grant that

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can help this project grow.

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Yes, yes, thank you for mentioning that, Lisa, because I

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really want to build this curriculum. You know, I will

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need the funding to have an artist and animator, a

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social media person to help share it.

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You know, I funded my platform the publishing of my

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children's book on my own, but you know, as I've

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mentioned to you, you know, there's been challenges with my

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husband being very ill and with medical expenses being what

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they are, I'm unfortunately unable to finance, you know, the

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creation of this curriculum as I envisage it on my

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own right now. So if there's anybody with any connections

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to grants that support children's education or nature based you know, initiatives.

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I would really really like to, you know, to learn

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about them. Thank you, You're welcome.

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And perhaps this is just coming in uh into my

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mind right now. Perhaps you know, we are in the

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last portion of the school year for most of the

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United States. I would like to think and then we

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go into the summer. You're I mean, I'm getting these

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like lights going off thinking your ideas and what you

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want to help teach the younger generations. And I mean

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that would be great to introduce into camps.

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Oh, yes, absolutely so My aim is homeschooling groups. I

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say that, you know, and there are so many homeschooling

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groups that would do outdoor activity is you know, have

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their own gatherings and stuff. So you know that I

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would love to get into the school system. But the

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school system being what it is, you know, hopefully that

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is something that happens, you know, down the road.

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But we'll say, yes, there's in even the private school

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systems of presenting a curriculum exactly.

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Yes, at Lisa, I just wanted to say, because I

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know you need to wrap up soon, but I just

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wanted to say that if anybody listening really doesn't understand,

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you know what I'm talking about when I talk about

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plant intelligence. You know, do have a look at my website.

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I do touch and look under the tab that says classes.

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I do touch on what the what I envisage the

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curriculum to be, and I mentioned biomimicry, biotechnology. You know,

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we don't have the time now to go into those

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in specific detail, but they are fascinating, fascinating areas where

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we can create a future that mimics and learns from

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the natural world around us, and where we can create

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a much more sustainable future for ourselves where we are

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not destroying our only home, our beautiful planet Earth.

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That's beautiful. That's beautiful, And Nandy, thank you so much

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for being on the show. In closing or post to closing,

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my daughter again, this is a thought going off in

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my mind. When she was going to high school, my

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daughter took an after school class called the called Adventure

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Group Adventure Club. So you know, I just imagine picture

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this being like a class that's offered, even if it

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starts off as an after class group, or like a curriculum.

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Like when you and I went to school growing up,

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there was maybe a cooking class, or there was a

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sewing class that we had to choose to take. It

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would be beautiful to see this progress into something like

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that where it is offered throughout the school systems and

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that it becomes part of the growing of our younger generations.

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Thank you so much.

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That is my hope.

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That's so beautiful. Well, for my listeners out there and

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for my viewers, Nandy, i would love to have you

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on my show again. We can talk more about music

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and the impact it has on our own health and

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00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:31.480
well being. And I'd love to connect with you in

478
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.759
time to see how this has developed and how it's

479
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.400
impacting our communities because it's so needed.

480
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:39.240
Thank you, Thank you, Lisa.

481
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:41.920
You're welcome and you are just such a blessing to

482
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.359
the world. You have this gift. I don't know anyone

483
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.400
like you. You have this vision and this voice, and

484
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.200
you you know you are a chosen one.

485
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.799
Oh you're so kind. Thank you, You're welcome.

486
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:57.200
You're welcome. Well, thank you, Nandine you. With that, I'm

487
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:02.400
going to ask my viewers and ask my listeners to

488
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.079
kind of well, if you're viewing this, you can sit

489
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.400
back and close your eyes. If you are out driving,

490
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.440
it's the end of your Monday and it's been a

491
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:16.680
busy day. Maybe my music set a greater piece for

492
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:20.480
the rest of your evening. And if again, if you're driving,

493
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.160
don't close your eyes, but still let my music kind

494
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.000
of take you on a little bit of a journey

495
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:32.079
of relaxation and peace. And if you've listened to me before,

496
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:41.720
I've mentioned I've been noted as the instant composer. I

497
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.279
don't have anything memorized or prepare.

498
00:33:44.000 --> 00:34:08.239
So sp.

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An.

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00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.440
We do still have a few minutes left, and I'd

501
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.239
like to thank Nandini for being on our show today

502
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.960
and talking about the music of the plants. And again

503
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.559
for our listeners out there. Nandini please share with us

504
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.920
how to get in touch with you. Oh, I think

505
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:03.039
the sound is off, so.

506
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.880
Nandy right, I've been on muted now, thank you, Okay.

507
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:15.199
My website is Nandy Annie and EIMOTP dot org.

508
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.960
You can find out you know everything about what.

509
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:24.360
My mission is around reimagining children's education around nature.

510
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.880
Thank you, thank you again, and for my listeners out there,

511
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.199
thank you for joining us today and I look forward

512
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.840
to having you join me again next week. You have

513
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:36.719
to tune in next week to find out who my

514
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:41.280
next special guest is and Nandy me. As I mentioned,

515
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.079
I will have you back since we do have a

516
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.960
couple of minutes left, and I will play a piece

517
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:51.280
to kind of pose us out. Is there anything in

518
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.920
particular you want to share with us that we didn't

519
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:57.920
touch upon before we we end our show today.

520
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:04.559
I would just like to invite everyone to begin acknowledging

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00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.199
the natural world around us, because you know, it's just

522
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.400
the background for us, and it's not something that we

523
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.679
pay attention to. So the next time you pass a tree,

524
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.679
maybe just say thank you. Thank you for the air

525
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.199
that I breathe, thank you for cleaning the air for me,

526
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.119
you know, thank you for holding the soil together for us.

527
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.039
You know, like when you sit down to eat, recognize

528
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.159
that every single thing on your plate.

529
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:35.000
Comes from a plant. You know, without plants, there is

530
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:35.920
no us.

531
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.000
And just if we can just say thank you a

532
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:43.119
little more often and just make it a habit, you know,

533
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.000
at least once a day we say thank you to

534
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.320
the plants, I think that would be a beautiful thing.

535
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:51.360
I agree, I agree, And you know this just came

536
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.599
to me. It was a conversation that we had as well,

537
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.840
and you were talking matriarch and patriarch and the level

538
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.239
of how that how we grew up with knowing the

539
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:10.079
authority in that patriarch world and it's not so. And

540
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:14.320
that in connection with what kind of work you do.

541
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.440
And you and I we talked about the farmer. We

542
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:21.239
talked about you know, the garbage company, the people that

543
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:25.320
work for the trash company, like we need them, the farmers,

544
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:30.480
we need them. We need to eat in the trash company.

545
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.559
We need those people so we can have a clean strands.

546
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.679
Yeah, you know, like we have been conditioned to see

547
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:41.960
certain jobs as having more value than others. That's something

548
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:45.039
that I always think about is that my husband in London,

549
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.119
he worked in mental health.

550
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.679
I worked in jose banking and financially.

551
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.440
My job was more valuable than what he was doing

552
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:01.679
when he was actually caring for or a segment of

553
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.400
society that needed so much help. His work was so

554
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:09.360
much more valuable than what I did. You know, So

555
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:13.239
I think that that is how patriarchy has not served us.

556
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:18.760
And under matriarchy, everybody is valued. You know, it's a

557
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:25.079
circular existence. It's not a hierarchical existence. Everybody has value.

558
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:30.119
We appreciate the value of everything. And when we appreciate

559
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:31.800
the value of the world.

560
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:36.039
Around us, and we recognize that every single thing has

561
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.000
a purpose and a meaning in this world, every pebble,

562
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:41.920
every grain of sand serves a purpose.

563
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:47.079
Then there can be no discrimination. Nothing is more valuable

564
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.000
than the other. That's so true, so true, so impactful. Yeah,

565
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:56.639
you know, it's almost it's almost like this is helping

566
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.960
me to think and to invite our listeners out there

567
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:03.679
that I'm a little bit of a workaholic and sometimes

568
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.840
I need a reminder to stop. And I think a

569
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.119
lot of us out there, with the technology.

570
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.880
Being what it is and our Amazon Microwave Society type

571
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.960
of world where go, go, go, you know, and and

572
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.920
we're always onto the next thing, and we don't take

573
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:27.519
time out for ourselves one and secondly to be the

574
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:33.559
observer and and to just embrace our surroundings instead of yes,

575
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:36.760
instead of taking it for granted and just oh well, okay,

576
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.280
I got to watch the time I got to get

577
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.599
to this place next. You know that it's and just

578
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:47.199
appreciating the tree that you mentioned, or the flowers outside

579
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:51.039
the you know, the bush outside of the office you

580
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:54.800
perhaps work at, or or that the shrubbery you know

581
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:58.760
outside your your lawn on your lawn. But it's so

582
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:04.480
there's so much we can just tear down on the

583
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.920
superficial level that we live. Most of us live on

584
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:11.360
at the superficiality of go and I'm doing this and

585
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.159
you know, my income or not income in my car

586
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.000
and my home. Take all that away. We would not

587
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.920
be here, like you said, without mother nature.

588
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.400
Absolutely yes, and.

589
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.920
It's just astonishing once you wake up to the fact

590
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:33.599
that we are destroying the natural environment through the decisions

591
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:38.039
that we are making in our industrial growth society, and

592
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:41.679
we really need a rethink of how we approach our

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00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:47.039
own existence. You know, we have entered what scientists are

594
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.360
calling the anthroposcene and the anthropasscene.

595
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.760
Is this era that we are in where.

596
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.920
Human actions have impacted the natural world and climate in

597
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.000
a way that it never has before.

598
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:03.840
You know that we can have a.

599
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:06.800
Lot of doom and gloom around that, or we can

600
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.800
have a lot of hope in that if we woke

601
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:12.639
up to the fact that we have one planet, we

602
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.480
have one home, and all we need to do is

603
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.119
to change how we exist in harmony with the natural

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00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:24.199
world around us, thereby ensuring our own future, the future

605
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.719
of our children, our grandchildren and beyond beautiful.

606
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.400
Now. I know we're having some difficulties with.

607
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Viewing.

608
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:36.480
I know my listeners can hear me, but I know

609
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:42.559
we're working backstage on some technical twitches. But considering everyone

610
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.880
can still hear me, there is and we don't have

611
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.039
much more time to go into this, but there is

612
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:51.719
the global warming that we know of, and a lot

613
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.679
of that has to do with the way we're not

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00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:59.519
taking care of our surrounding and the fact that music

615
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:03.599
of the plants, the plans are getting emotional in that

616
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.199
the plans are trying to communicate with us.

617
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.519
Absolutely. Thank you for saying that. You know, like this

618
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:13.480
conversation can become very woo woo, and a lot of

619
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.840
people can just switch off from that. But it's not

620
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.599
woo woo. It's it's real, you know. It's it's a

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00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:26.239
real thing that there is electrical impedance between a plant's

622
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:30.039
roots and its leaves. We may not be able to

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00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.920
hear plans. You know, science has proven that plans make noise.

624
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.679
You know, I've actually written an article on that.

625
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:41.159
If anybody's interested in that, I you know, I'll be

626
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:42.800
happy to share it with them.

627
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.079
You know, science is waking up to a lot.

628
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.199
Of what indigenous communities have always toured us, and we're.

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00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.320
Just about out of time. I'm sorry to cut you off,

630
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.280
but but thank you so much. I love what you're doing.

631
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.559
And for my listeners and watch viewers out there, please

632
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:04.199
connect with Nandy the Music of the Plants and Nandy,

633
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:08.679
you and I will talk soon. And for my listeners,

634
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.400
thank you so much for supporting our show. And I

635
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:16.159
look forward to seeing you and speaking or you'll see

636
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.440
me next week. And Nandy, thank you so much. It's

637
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:20.679
been a pleasure having you on.

638
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.639
Thank you so much. Lisa, thank you, be well. Thank

639
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:24.800
you