Feb. 16, 2026

The Sound of Gold with guest Tobias Hamilton of Hamilton Piano

The Sound of Gold with guest Tobias Hamilton of Hamilton Piano

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Season 1

The Sound of Gold with guest Tobias Hamilton of Hamilton Piano

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Professional service or any advice. You should seek the services

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of competent professionals before applying or trying any suggested ideas.

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Hi, Welcome to the Sound of Gold. If you're new, welcome.

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If you're returning to our show, welcome back. My show

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is basically The Sound of Gold. We focus on music, musicians,

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music venues, music teachers, music schools, and I'm located here

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in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. My studio is presently in

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my home right now. That's where I am airing live

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for you. And I I am a piano teacher as

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well as a radio show host. I've been teaching for

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over twenty years in Palm Beach County and it's just

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something I've been doing for a very long time and

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I love I love doing. I want to start off

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by talking about instruments. And I've played violin, I've played guitar.

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I've settled with piano, and I don't mean settlers in.

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I guess you can take that different ways. But my

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love my piano, My instrument is the piano. That's that's

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my instrument, my go to And you know, when I

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have opportunities to play at venues sometimes there is not

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a piano, and I have to bring a keyboard, and honestly,

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it's not my favorite thing to do because there's nothing

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realer than is that even a word realer, there's not,

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There's nothing realer than the piano itself. I mean an

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acoustic A digital piano sounds good, doesn't need to be tuned,

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but it doesn't have that quality that sound as a

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piano does. And today I'm so excited to welcome Tobias

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Hamilton from Hamilton Piano out in West Palm Beach. Tobias, Hi,

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how are you good?

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How are you doing?

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I'm doing well. Thank you so much for making the

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time today to be here on the show.

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Thank you for having me on it. This is really

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going to be fun.

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Yes, yes, it will be. It is. It is fun.

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There's so many questions I have for you and for

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our audience out there. I know you've had a studio

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and I've known you for gosh, I've known you over

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twenty years. And you know we have similar friends or

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that swim in the same pool that we swim in.

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And I don't know if that's weird to say, but

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I use that analogy. But you know, we have this

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family this nit close.

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Knit family of musicians, and it's extended out to even

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people I don't know, or maybe you don't know either,

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But where you started, I remember your studio and where

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you are now.

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It's just such a bigger transition and the studio you have.

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Please tell us a little bit about it. Tell us

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exactly where you're located and how people could find you,

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and I have so many questions.

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Sure, So we're located in West Palm Beach, just one

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block north of Forest Hill, on the east side of

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Congress at sixteen fifty six South Congress Avenue. It's called

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Palm Springs, but do West Palm Beach you'll find us faster.

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And yes, you're right. We did start in two thousand

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and eight with a small twenty two hundred square foot shop,

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and we were doing that during when the crisis was

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the economy was at its worst. But I still decide, hey,

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well I'm going to try this because I was kind

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of tired of working out of my garage and my

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father's garage. So I opened up and grew into sixteen

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thousand square feet and then after that I bought this

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building five years ago, and uh, now we're up to

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thirty employees just about and uh, we just keep growing

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and growing, and we are a fourth generation company. My

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grandfather taught my father and my uncle. Uh, and then

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I taught my son. My nieces are here, my daughter's

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here when she's not in college. And the no one

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in my family had ever opened a shop. They just

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kind of kept their businesses separate and worked out of

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their own homes. But I wanted to, you know, try

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it and see and I my dad says.

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Don't do it. You'll you'll, you'll, you know, the overhead's

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gonna kill you.

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And I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm gonna

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try it and see what happens. And I said, I'll

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try it for a couple of years if I if

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I fail, I fail.

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If I don't, I don't. And we didn't fail.

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So you know, we're we're doing good and we're trying

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to get back to the community in the senses like

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you know, we have our you know, we do recitals.

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Eventually we want to add a recital hall and a

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recording studio and things like that, uh, because we have

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the property to do it. And that will happen when

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I don't know, but you maybe the next time we

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do a video like this, well you know, in a

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few years we'll have it started or whatnot. But yeah,

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basically we wanted to do stuff that no one else

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has done before.

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That's why we do a lot of customs with nice.

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Now do you play piano? I do, okay, so, and

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I know.

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I wouldn't say very well. I took lessons as a

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kid from age four to twelve, and when I was

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about ten years old, you know, I kind of didn't

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want to do it anymore. But I was the son

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of a piano tuner, so it took me a little

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bit of time to tell my dad to get the

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nervous say Dad, I don't want to do this anymore.

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So finally when I did, he said, you'll regret it,

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and I said, yeah, sure, I'm twelve, you know, of

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course I know more than him. And then as time

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went on, I do regret it because back when I

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was younger, I could pretty much play almost anything if

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you put the sheet music in front of me.

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But I got back into.

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Playing the piano when I was learning how to tune pianos,

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because to break myself from the stress of learning how

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to tune a piano, I would just start coming up

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with my own music.

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And that's what I.

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Did and that's what I play. So it's but that's

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how I got back into playing.

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So I want to go into talking about the instrument itself.

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But before we even do that, you mentioned a couple

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of times piano tuning. So what there audience out there?

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There may be people that own pianos that do not

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own pianos, But the idea of tuning a piano, what

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is it that you use, what is it that you

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listen for? And I know piano tuners, each one is

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a little bit different.

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There's more than one way to tune a piano, like

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there is a skin of cat and for instance, the

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way I tune a piano is different than the way.

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My father, my uncle, and my grandfather did.

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There's devices out there, electronic tuning devices that can be used.

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You can do it orally, you know where you just

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use a tuning for can set your temperament and then

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go through do your.

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Octaves and unison.

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But what technicians have to look for is basically your intervals,

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your partials.

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And setting a temperament.

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And if you use an ETD device, that's good to you,

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but you still have to rely on your ear just

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because it's a double check. And that's where I think

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the best tunings come in is because not only do

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you have a visual check, but you have a hearing check,

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and you.

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Put those two together. You can't get any better than

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those two.

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If you just relied on one or the other, you know,

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that's fine too, but having both, in my opinion, is

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what makes the tuning the best that it can be.

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So one time, this is some years ago. Thank you

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for sharing that. This is some years ago when I

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was I think it was I don't know if it

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was at this warehouse or the last warehouse, but you

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had a piano that was Lenny Kravitz's. Do you remember

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that right? And I don't know if it was that

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piano or the grand next to it, and it blew

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me away and I used this. I share this with

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my students. You said to me, it takes ten thousand

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and pieces, or this piano is made up of ten

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thousand pieces.

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Between nine and fourteen thousand parts or in a piano,

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more moving parts in a piano than in a car.

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That is just incredible. Now does that go for let's say,

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like I have a vertical grand Worlditzer. So compared to

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like a Baby grand or a Grand is it is

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it just difference in size or difference in the amount

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of material that's used.

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A little bit of both. Size.

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You know, you have different stringing scales, so you may

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have more strings. You're gonna have more in a bigger

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piano because they'll put more bass strings in, you know.

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On longer pianos.

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It depends to certain manufacturers add more keys to the piano,

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you know, like a Bosendorff will have extra base keys.

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So it yep. So it just depends on the manufacturer too.

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All right, And that's very interesting. So what other pianos

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are companies? Because there's so many. I mean basically, if

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I would play this piano or a piano that you

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have in the wordhouse, I mean, it sounds different. Oh

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that's another thing I wanted to bring up to you

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is each piano is has their own style. Like I know,

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like when Doug comes to two my piano, He's like,

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this is a happy, cheery, cheerful piano. Then like, I've

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had another piano before this and it wasn't as happy sounding.

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And when I go and I play different pianos, there's

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just a different feel to it a different sound, a

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different a different energy, and I can't as a piano player,

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I don't know where that comes from, other than maybe

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the maker.

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So the tone of the piano comes from the hammers

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that hit the strings, the harder to hammer, the brighter

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to tone, the softer hammer to mellower to tone.

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And then you also have the touch of the piano.

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So the harder the touch, more you have to play

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harder in order to get the sound out of the piano.

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So between your different touch and tones is how you

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get the sounds out of the piano. But it also

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comes down to the manufacturer. For instance, there are no

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two pianos that are exactly the same. And you could

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even take two pianos made side by side and it

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doesn't matter who made it.

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They're not going to be the same instrument.

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And so my father had told me many many years

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ago before he passed away, that they hooked a computer

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up to a piano. And this was back when computers

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are not like what we have today. And it spit

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out that a piano can produce over one hundred billion

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different sounds.

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Wow, and the human ear will never hear all of them.

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It's impossible because everybody plays the piano different. You know,

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you play pianosmo four timo, you play hard, you play soft,

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the chords, the you know, everything that you play, the

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different hammers that are in the piano. So there's so

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many variations that a piano can produce that the human

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ear would never hear everything that a piano can do.

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I love that. I love that. Yeah, it was I

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think you heard in the beginning of my of my

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show I mentioned there's nothing like the piano. The digital pianos,

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the plug in pianos, column plug in, they're they're great

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for starting out with, but there's nothing like the I mean,

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I'm not knocking. I think it's an incredible invention, as

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incredible to have that option because not everybody can afford

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a piano. Now what you know. On that same note note,

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if someone were to come to buy a piano from you,

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is there do you have like a payment plan or

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do you work with them on a pay scale or

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is it like a set rate and then you know

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either it's for them or it's not. I don't know

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if that's kind of a silly Oh.

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Yeah. We have three different options.

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One is a rent to own program where they can

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rent the piano and they can rent it up to

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six months and whatever their rental fee is goes towards

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the purchase of that piano or another piano. We have

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six months no interest or we have twelve months no interest,

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and that's all in house, uh that we do.

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Our job is to make sure our customers get the

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right piano. It's not about selling a pianos, about making

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sure they get the right piano.

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And you also have trade up value.

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Too, So if someone wants to buy a we sell

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Roland digital. So someone wants to buy a roll in

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to start with, and then they want to upgrade to

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an acoustic piano, then you have trade and value.

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With Now do you still do this because I think

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years ago you had you had checked one of my

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pianos and I was looking to do a trade to

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upgrade the trade. So do you still do that? Do

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you still offer that? Like, if somebody has a piano

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that they want to upgrade, you look at their piano

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as a trade in option.

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Yep, yep, we absolutely do.

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And with pianos, whether you're taking a piano in or

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whether someone is buying a piano from you, and it's

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being delivered to their home. Is it a set rate

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for moving the piano or does that is that included

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in the price of the piano? We need listeners?

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Sure, so we do charge for delivery.

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We have one price for local ground floor. A vertical

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is X amount of baby grant is x amount.

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If it's going upstairs, it's additional. Of course. If it's

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going out of our.

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Local area, which is stupid, or to Boca, Uh, it's additional.

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And if we have to crane it in which we

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do a lot of times, uh, you know, or some

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kind of funky delivery that we we do. You'd be

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surprised some of the crazy moves that we've done, but

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we do.

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You know that too. But yes, we have a set

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price if it's local ground floor. But if we have

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obstacles in our way that we have to hurdle, then.

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Okay, all right, I have a silly question. Now you

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are to me, and and I'm not saying this for

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for an ego boost, but I'm saying this as a

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as a compliment. But Hamilton Piano to me is like

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the number one music store in Palmis County. I mean,

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there's there's Bob's Pianos, There's Guitar Center, There's there's others

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out there which are great, but in my in my mind, sorry,

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in my world, like Hamlet, there's Hamilton Piano. There's no

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there's no company like you out there.

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Thank you.

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I think, I think what we do to set ourselves

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apart is service first.

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You know, I got into rebuilding and tuning and all

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of that before selling pianos.

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And then you know, and.

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Some of the work that we do at our shop,

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there's less than maybe fifty people in the country that

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actually do what we do. And some of the stuff

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we do nobody does. Because I'm in the I'm the

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president of the Piano Technicians Guild for all of South Florida,

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and I go to PTG conventions and I know a

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lot of technicians. I talked to them from all over

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the country, even some all over the world. I've had

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some come to the shop and when I tell them

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what we do, they are blown away because even those

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shops don't do that in house. They have to send

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that out to be done. And that's because I wanted

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everything in the shop so we could have a quality

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control with it and know because I've had to.

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Send stuff out before and not.

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Happy with what came back and which makes my life harder.

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And so I said, well, we're going to learn how

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to do this. Some stuff took us five years to

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get down, six seven, eight years to get down, but

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we kept sticking with and there's other projects too that

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we're still doing that We're still in the process of

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figuring it out how this is done, so that this

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way we don't have to worry about parts that we

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can't get, that we can do it ourselves.

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We have all the machinery between a.

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C and C machine and a three D printer, and

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I have a very very good crew.

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My staff is I'm very very blessed to have them.

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And so between all of us were we talk about it,

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we figured it out, and you know, we keep moving on.

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I love that, And it's such a musician's attitude because

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because as a musician myself, I don't build pianos. I don't,

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but I'm always and I'm not only a teacher, I'm

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also a student, right, I'm always wanting to better myself,

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like I'm my biggest competition. So it's like, what can

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I learn more? How can I do better. How can

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I be of service, let's say, to my students and

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be a better teacher? What you know? So I love

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that attitude, and I love that you have a great crew.

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I know you have a lot of family that works

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with you, and you're very tight knit and all that

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you do for the community. I knew you had mentioned

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you were looking at maybe building more in what you

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already mentioned. But you have so many pianos. I'm kind

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of getting off off the subject, but you have so

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many pianos that I believe last time we talked, when

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I was at your warehouse, you had said that you

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had almost well I don't know, but you had storage

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units with pianos in it.

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Still don't remind me.

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I've got over I've got over nine storage units. I

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have nine stores units full of pianos, and some are

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four customers because we do store a lot of pianos,

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and the rest are all minine. So but I look

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at it this way, when I purchase a piano, a

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half a dozen people are going to make money on

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that pano. So because by the time we have to

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string it, rebuild the action, refinish it, polish the hardware,

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so on and so forth. You know, six people all

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can make money off of that piano. So if I've

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got three hundred people, there's a minimum of ten years

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worth of work for everybody here if we never had

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another customer job. But that's why I have somebody's because

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we're so busy doing customer jobs.

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We can't get to my own pianos.

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And when I was first getting into the business because

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my dad had gotten sick, that's why I got into tuning.

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My dad had collected like thirty thirty five pianos, and

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I said, well, that's never going to happen to me.

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I want to get buy one, get it done and

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move on. And of course, you know what my father

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taught me was just do good work and you'll always

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be busy. And that's that is true because we're always busy,

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so it's hard to get ours done.

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But yes, we have I have a piano problem. I

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admit it. I have a piano problem.

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But yeah, it's it's one of those things. But it's

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it's That's how I look at it too, is it's

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better than kind of having money in the bank because

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it's future work for for people, and it's an income

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coming back in the in the back end.

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So with that being said, for listeners that are listening

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in that maybe have a piano. Now we talked now

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I mentioned storage. However, there are people out there that

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have their piano maybe sitting in a garage, or sitting

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in a non air conditioned storage unit, or sitting in

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a basement, depending what state. You know, what state they're

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in in the in the country. So could you share

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a little bit with our listeners about how important it

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is to how important the weather is. How would I

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say the weather affects the piano?

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I like so Florida.

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Of course, we have so much humidity out there, and

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eighty percent of the piano is made of wood, so

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it will accept that humidity and it will cause problems.

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So the two biggest things that you have to well,

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I would say three things. One, you have to protect

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the piano by having it and acclimatize storage unit or

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in your home and the ac on to help keep

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the humidity down. Two would be having a dehumidifier system

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inside the piano because that it will evaporate the humidity

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and moisture from getting to it, and that prolongs the

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life of the piano. And three is tuning it regularly

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because unfortunately, sometimes the piano becomes mistaken as a piece

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of furniture and it's not. It's a musical instrument and

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it has to be. A piano is happier when it

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is tuned and serviced properly. It will start to act

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up when those when it's not done, it doesn't. It's

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like what happens when you don't change oil in your car. Well,

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you're gonna start having some knocking noises. You're gonna have

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some problems. It's kind of the same thing with the piano.

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And it's actually the least cost the least to maintain

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product in your home because you only have to tune

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it down here in Florida once or twice a year,

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so it doesn't it's not something drastic.

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Yeah, I've learned to be twice a year person and

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it's important. I mean, it does make a difference. I

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hear the difference in playing in my piano and one

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of them. I don't know if you know Zia's music

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studios in Jupiter, they always get their piano tunes frequently too,

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and it just makes it a big difference.

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Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're right.

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Because commercial settings you have to tune it more often

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when you're whether it's a school or a church, concert halls.

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My concert halls, I tuned the piano before rehearsal and

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after rehearsal, before the concert, and then you do in

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schools or restaurants or churches, you do have to tune

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it more often, just because it's getting more than normal use,

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you know, within a time timeframe.

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So call me out on this if this is too silly.

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But a lot of people go out and listen to music,

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and a lot of it might or not all of

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it is piano. A lot of times it's guitar. Nine

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times out of ten you will frequently see a guitar

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is sitting there adjusting there their strings, maybe because they

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need to tighten an E or an A, or because

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they can hear that it's off. So the same similar

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terminology applies to the piano because of the strings inside

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the piano. If for the audiences out there, if you

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have not seen the inside of a piano, please make

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an effort to get out there and look inside the

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piano because it's just so amazing.

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You can see as many as you like at my facility.

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We get free tours. You know, through our shop of

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you know, the inside and out of a piano, you

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get to see things you've never seen before.

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We have very rare.

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Pianos here sometimes, and yes, tuning a guitar is a

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lot easier than tuning a piano. There are six strings

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compared to almost two hundred and twenty, and a piano

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has twenty tons of ten when it's at perfect pitch,

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which is a four forty. So you know, sometimes I

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have to stay for a concert and during intermission I

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go out and I have to touch up, you know,

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a few unisons here or there during the concert, just

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to make sure everything is okay. But for the most part,

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you know, the tunings hold very well. But there are

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some artists that are phenomenal and you know, they beat

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on the piano and it's like, okay, great, you know,

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but that's what we we do.

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That's our job.

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So can we can we ask like what is or

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who who has impressed you the most in your years

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or maybe most recent years as far as an artist

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or celebrity, who has been who has impressed you, who's

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been like an inspiration to you?

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There are that would be a whole other episode. I

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have a long list. Billy Joel was super nice. Jon

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bon Jovi is super nice.

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You know. Renee Fleming, Uh, she's very nice.

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We have hundreds of autograph pictures of artists on our wall,

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and I have four photo.

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Albums, very thick of autographs.

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I work for Live Nations, so I do a lot

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of the other big bands, you know, like Bruce Springston, YouTube,

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Nora Jones.

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The Eagles, and so I have come.

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I've been very fortunate that I've heard some horror stories,

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you know, with some technicians and artists.

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Uh.

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And I have had.

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A few myself, very minor ones, uh through the years.

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But I've been very fortunate that uh, you know, I

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was trained by not just my family, but some Sineway

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technicians and other technicians, and they helped me be the

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technician that I am today. So you know, something arises,

476
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it's a pretty well we know how to take.

477
00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.039
Care of it, because concert works completely different.

478
00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:58.000
Than uh, you know in home. You know, tunings and work.

479
00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:01.839
But if a problem arises, which things do, or string breaks,

480
00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:02.559
what are you going to do?

481
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:03.319
Right?

482
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.000
You can't really replace it because the string's not going

483
00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:09.000
to stay in tuned because a new string under that

484
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:10.839
tension is not going to stay in tune for the concert,

485
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.680
so you have to do what's called splicing a string,

486
00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:15.920
and that's very difficult to do. We actually had our

487
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:19.000
last Piano Technicians Guild class we taught a class on

488
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:23.279
that and there's a lot of bloody fingers from everybody

489
00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:26.440
trying to tie a string and it's difficult, it really is.

490
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:26.839
So.

491
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.839
But there's just certain things, you know, with the concert

492
00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.160
work that you're trying to tune the piano while they're

493
00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.319
they're doing sound checks or someone's wailing on the guitar

494
00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:37.440
and checking that out.

495
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.440
So it's a whole different different world. Yeah, And.

496
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.640
Is it pretty much in range as far as the

497
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.640
frequent the vibration, the frequency of your tuning. I mean,

498
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:52.319
they say the fourth three to two is the best

499
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.559
uh tuning to be at. I know, like my pianos

500
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:58.200
four forty, But do you have a range of what

501
00:24:58.279 --> 00:24:59.960
you like to tune your keys at?

502
00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.079
So perfect pitch is a four forty that's what standard

503
00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.400
for the United States. A four thirty two has come

504
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:08.799
up in the last recently, you know, in the last

505
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.720
probably a decade or so, where that's more in harmony

506
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.240
with the earth and it sounds better so I've had

507
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.880
some artists want me to tune it to that, which

508
00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:21.359
I have done. European orchestras or European artists prefer a

509
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:24.519
four forty two because that's their standard. One of my

510
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:27.480
concert halls, the Society of the Four Arts in Palm Beach,

511
00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.119
we have a nine foot Humberg steinedway there and I

512
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.119
keep that at a four. Yeah, it's a beautiful piano.

513
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:35.640
It's one of my favorites, and I keep that at

514
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:38.119
a four forty one. So this way it's right in

515
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:40.200
the middle. So at least if they if if it's

516
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.799
a European artist, you know, it's not too far from

517
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.519
forty two, and it's not too far for you know,

518
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:49.599
the American artists to keep it there because pitch raising

519
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:52.160
and pitch lowering a piano back and forth to change

520
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.720
the pitches. We were doing that for years and it

521
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:57.079
wasn't good for the piano. So we keep it at

522
00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:59.279
a four forty one at that hall.

523
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.839
Okay, all right, and at your at your place right

524
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.160
now at the warehouse. I don't know if this is

525
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:11.880
a fair question, Tobias, because I understand before I even

526
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.240
befom even asking out of all the pianos you have

527
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.839
in house right now, right and someone were to walk in,

528
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.720
do you have a favorite that you go to right away?

529
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.599
Or do you have several favorites that you that you

530
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:30.359
would bring a piano player to first, or you just

531
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:31.519
like just try them all.

532
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.079
No, I've got some favorites, of course. I mean you're

533
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:37.960
going to have your higher quality instruments and your lesser

534
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.440
quality instruments, just the way that it is, because there's

535
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.880
different price points. Your higher quality ones costs more. Of course,

536
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:48.039
we have a beautiful Shimmel in here, that's a gorgeous sound.

537
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.440
We have a Petrov that's very very nice. And usually

538
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.039
your European pianos are what sounds the best, and it's

539
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:58.720
what I like the best personally. But that's why when

540
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:01.240
we rebuild a piano, we German parts in. We have

541
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.759
custom German strings made. We put German hammers in German

542
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:08.319
action parts because that's the best sound that, in my opinion,

543
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.200
you can get from a piano. And once those parts

544
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.359
all gel as good as the piano sounds. When we

545
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:16.839
first rebuild it, you know, it sounds very very good.

546
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.599
But as it ages after a new soundboard is in

547
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:21.720
and the strings and everything, and once everything starts to

548
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.079
gel together and it ages three, four or five years.

549
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.599
The piano sounds even better, believe it or not.

550
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.599
So it's just one of those things that that's why

551
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:32.119
we use.

552
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:33.039
You know, German parts.

553
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.960
But yes, there are some that I do direct and

554
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.480
I show customers the rebuilds that we're doing. Now, for instance,

555
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.640
we had someone in yesterday that wants to rebuild a piano,

556
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.359
so I showed them a couple of sign ways that

557
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.640
we have that we're doing, and so I told them,

558
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:49.799
this is gives you an idea of what your piano

559
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.960
is going to sound like if you decide to have us.

560
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:57.079
Do it nice. Now, this is again maybe a silly question,

561
00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:01.319
but there are different manufacturers of out there, right, So

562
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:05.720
you have, like you mentioned the German pieces to European piano.

563
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:09.000
So you have cars that are made in China, cars

564
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.680
are made in Germany, cars that are made in America.

565
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.000
They each have different parts, I mean similar parts, but

566
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.759
they're made in different countries or they made a little differently.

567
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.000
So can we say that it's safe to assume that

568
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.759
depending on whether it is a Baldwin or a sin

569
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:29.200
Way or a Wurlitzer or Yamaha. They have similar parts,

570
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:31.279
but they're made by different manufacturers.

571
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:36.680
Yeah yeah, even different from different origins, they'll still use

572
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:37.519
different parts.

573
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:37.799
You know.

574
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.319
It could be you can have a Japanese piano with

575
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:43.240
German parks in it, you know where it's they they

576
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.640
are selling a brand new piano, but because they put

577
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.759
these higher quality parts in, so the new manufacturers do

578
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.960
do that also, you know, and you will have different

579
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:58.880
characteristics between the pianos. So, you know, a Yamaha is

580
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:02.960
a lot of people say, oh, I'm not a fan

581
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.039
of this piano because it's like this, and I like

582
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.079
this when I don't like this, And of course everyone's

583
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.480
got their opinions, but for me, it's you got to

584
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.680
go by the individual personality of the piano itself, because

585
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.079
just because let's say it's a Yamaha, doesn't mean it's

586
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.000
gonna be brassy and bright this one. You could find

587
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.799
one that's rich and warm sounding, and that's the one

588
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:26.799
that will suit your needs because touch and tone are

589
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:28.839
the two most important parts when you're looking to buy

590
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:29.279
a piano.

591
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.680
Okay, all right, you know I mentioned earlier in the show,

592
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.119
I've known you for a long time. I don't know you,

593
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.680
but I you know, we've interacted in the piano worlds,

594
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.799
and today having you on the show again, I'm thanking you,

595
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.519
and I'm also expressing I love that your attitude is

596
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.079
about the service to the customer. You're about You're not

597
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.960
about the sale point. You know, there's let's say a

598
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.440
seventy thousand dollar piano. I've seen them, you know, and

599
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:04.559
you're not about the price tag. You're about what fits like,

600
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.039
what fits with the musician, what fits right for them,

601
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:12.799
where they're happy. And that's such a valuable trait that

602
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.960
you that you have as a business owner and that

603
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:20.279
you have as in the music world. And again, I

604
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.119
love that you're on the show today, and I hope

605
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.559
people that are listening come and visit you, or at

606
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.799
least call and schedule a time to come and check

607
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.480
out the pianos and maybe try try one or two

608
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:36.799
or see what works for them.

609
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:36.759
Or just take a free tour.

610
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:38.960
Just come in for if you already have a piano,

611
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:41.039
you can either upgrade it or if you want to

612
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:43.400
change the color or or whatever you want to do,

613
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.680
or just come in and take a tour just to

614
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.440
get a better understanding of what goes into it because

615
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.319
that's our job is to educate so that if you're

616
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.720
looking to buy a piano, you want to know what

617
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:58.200
you're getting into, because we've had so many horror stories

618
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:01.440
of something as simple well as this. A customer get

619
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.200
buys a piano and we go to pick it up

620
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:05.359
and we can't move it because as termites, so we

621
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.880
can't even put it in our in our truck. We

622
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.720
won't do it. We won't take that risk. So you know,

623
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.440
and that's just one small thing that could happen with

624
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:17.599
that could be wrong with a piano.

625
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.240
Okay, So I'm sorry, did I cut you off?

626
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:22.920
No?

627
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:28.000
No, So for our musicians out there that have a piano,

628
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.119
and don't mind my cats there there.

629
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:33.480
There.

630
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.240
Let's say it's in air conditioned place, a home or or

631
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:42.200
studio wherever. What is the best way to keep a

632
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.839
piano clean? Because if you go when you buy all

633
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.680
the oils to spray the piano all the time, eventually

634
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.000
that stuff builds up and damages the wood. You have

635
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:54.440
a secret that you'd like to share with us about

636
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:59.000
how to keep your in home piano or your studio piano.

637
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:06.680
So for internally technicians like we have seven of us

638
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.799
that are out on the road can do the internal

639
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:10.920
cleaning that you do not want to mess with because

640
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.000
you could cause a problem. But externally, we do have

641
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:18.200
a solution that we use for every piano is different.

642
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.720
You have your satin finishes and your high polish finishes,

643
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.519
so we have a product that we use for the

644
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.599
high polish, but ebony, you know, pianos satin, you could

645
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:31.880
use just a very lightly damp cloth, maybe some mineral spirits,

646
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:34.119
but you have to be very careful, you know, because

647
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.519
if you're not careful, you could cause a bigger problem.

648
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.920
A lot of people use wind decks for high polished pianos.

649
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.160
Do not do that. That is going to make it worse.

650
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.119
There's not many times we look at the piano and

651
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.440
you can see the streak marks and you can see.

652
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.640
Everything, and we know that that was youth.

653
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.200
For natural finished pianos like yours there, you could use

654
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.880
Old English. You know, they have light medium dark. Yours

655
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.519
looks like medium to dark kind of tone, you know,

656
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.000
So you could use something like that, and you don't

657
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:04.839
just pour it all on. You just take a little

658
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:06.480
bit and kind of rub.

659
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:06.920
It on there.

660
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.480
But for the most part, just dry dusting it and

661
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.759
very very lightly damp cloth for the most part. But

662
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:17.599
those are some of the things that you can use.

663
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:19.640
Spray and shine is something you can use too.

664
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:20.880
For high polish.

665
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.240
Finishes, you just really you want to have a professional

666
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.480
do it. Some pianos can't be wiped down. They have

667
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.759
literally have to be buffed, like like you buff a car.

668
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.000
We do that all the time to the high polish

669
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.440
finishes to bring that luster back. So there's there's many

670
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.240
different techniques with the outside of queinic clean. But those

671
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.200
are a few little minor things that you can do.

672
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.640
Okay, all right, good to new, good to do. And

673
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:49.519
I also want to mention MTNA, the Music Teachers National Association.

674
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.000
I know that you've opened your facility for us. I mean,

675
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.160
you know I'm on the board. But you support the

676
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:02.480
community and you support new teachers, whether whether you're on

677
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.799
our listeners, whether you're on mt and A, or whether

678
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.280
you're a music teacher that is working in a school.

679
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.760
And it doesn't matter what you're connected to. If you're

680
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.920
out there teaching, you're out there in music and sharing

681
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.000
your talents and doing what you do best. I mean,

682
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:26.480
Hamilton Piano is the best place to go and check

683
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:30.880
out the pianos as well as tobys. Let me ask you,

684
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.199
do you have some upcoming events for the community.

685
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.480
I think we have a couple of recitals coming up,

686
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:39.519
you know. We don't.

687
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:42.840
We don't have really any events ourselves. But some of

688
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.440
our concert halls, do you like Glazier Hall that just

689
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.840
opened up. They've got a lot of really good events

690
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.559
coming up, you know, But we don't personally. I mean,

691
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.199
we give the tours on a whim, you know, so

692
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.199
that's not like kind of scheduled, uh, when someone comes in.

693
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.280
We just had a family come in U a couple

694
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.079
of weeks ago and they called to me today and said, Hey,

695
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.360
can I bring my dad in and show him around?

696
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.000
I said sure, so, you know, showed them around and so.

697
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:11.400
But we do have a couple of recitals coming up

698
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:16.719
for the teachers. And but eventually when we do add

699
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:18.920
onto the building and we have a recital hall, we're

700
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.360
going to be able to do bigger, better things, especially

701
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.079
with some of my concert artist friends. And then also

702
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.960
having a recording studio so that kids can do their

703
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:28.280
recordings to get into either.

704
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.159
Back or dry Fist or college or whatever.

705
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.320
That's another way that we can give back to the

706
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.400
community because this business has been very.

707
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.760
Good to my family and to everyone that's associated with it.

708
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:41.199
So we do try to get back in any way

709
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.679
that we can with those kind of things.

710
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.119
You know, we've donated pianos too, you know, for for charities.

711
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.000
Okay, that's good to know. That's good to Now you're

712
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.159
not so I know you're not on the same street,

713
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:53.960
but you're not that far from g Star.

714
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.519
Also, actually we are in the same street.

715
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.559
Yeah, it's funny you said that because about he probably

716
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.800
left already about ten minutes before the show, a student

717
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.679
came in. He goes, I walked past this store every day?

718
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.199
Can I check? Can I look around? I said, yeah,

719
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.039
go ahead, play whatever you want, you know, have fun.

720
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.480
And then and then I had to do this of

721
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.559
course with you. But yeah, it was funny you said

722
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.199
that because a student just came in before the show.

723
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:25.119
That's awesome. That's awesome. Please tell our listeners again how

724
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.239
they where you're located for those that are just listening

725
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.440
that aren't watching, and yeah, how do they reach you?

726
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.159
Sure, so you can. We're at sixteen fifty six South

727
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:40.440
Congress Avenue, West, Palm Beach, Florida, three three four zero six.

728
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.039
You can call us at any time at five six

729
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.639
one nine six five eight zero nine zero. You can

730
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.960
reach out to us at info at Hamilton pianococeo dot com.

731
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.840
So info at Hamilton Poco dot com. We do a

732
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.719
lot of videos, so we have a lot of social

733
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.480
media things on Facebook, YouTube, but we also have a

734
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:05.360
podcast called Hamilton Happy Hour. We've had a lot of

735
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.400
guests on that's what I can't wait to have you

736
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.360
on ours next. But we have Hamilton Happy Hour, which

737
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:14.000
is a podcast where we've had singers, technicians, concert artists,

738
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.800
all different types of uh uh guests on our show

739
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:19.599
and it's it's it's a lot of fun.

740
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.599
Yes, I'm looking forward to that. Thank you. And with

741
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.320
that being said, I have to pick on you. So

742
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.960
I saw when your Instagram posts from the from the

743
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.119
Happy Hour and it was it had me laughing and

744
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.480
I hope you don't mind me picking on you and

745
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:40.039
maybe fine re sharing it. But you had mentioned the

746
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.840
time that bon Jo became into the studio and you

747
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.239
were in the middle of working. Can you can you

748
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.599
reshare that story because it's just too funny.

749
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:48.320
Yeah.

750
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:52.199
So I am in the bigger part of my shop

751
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.679
and my electrician was here and I and I had

752
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:56.679
on my had him on my forkliff. He was up

753
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.440
to the ceiling working on the electric And so Cheryl,

754
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.920
who's my oldest friend I've noticed since seventh grade.

755
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:04.039
She runs the office.

756
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.599
She walks in and she goes, John bon Jovi's here

757
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.800
to buy a piano. I said, yeah, right, she goes

758
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.639
John bon Jovi's here to buy a piano. I said, bye, Steve,

759
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.920
and I said, I you know, I said, I'll be

760
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:15.400
right back.

761
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.280
So I walk in and he's in with.

762
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:22.000
His wife, super nice, and they picked out a Yamaha

763
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:23.519
piano and he says, I want to put it in

764
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.519
my office and if it doesn't fit, would you take

765
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.599
it back? I said sure, So we bring it to

766
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.800
his house, put in his office. Fit perfectly. He loved it.

767
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:33.840
Everything was great. So two weeks later I went to

768
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.920
give him his free tuning and while I'm tuning, after

769
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.079
I'm done tuning, and I play it and he walks

770
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.079
in and he says, so, what are you doing there?

771
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:44.679
And I said, well, I'm doing this and this and this,

772
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.639
and I'm like, I'm showing bon Jovi how to play

773
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:49.519
the piano. This is really cool and I said, John,

774
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.480
do you want to try it? He goes, I'm just learning,

775
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.480
but yeah, So he sits down and he starts playing.

776
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:55.679
And he was writing a.

777
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.280
Song for his daughter's wedding, and I'm hopefully I'm pretty

778
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.519
sure the wedding already happened, because I don't want to

779
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:05.239
spoil anything, but long story short, he was writing a

780
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.440
song for his daughter's wedding and I was getting chills

781
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:08.719
because I was hearing the lyrics.

782
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.719
He had a few few verses and the chords and

783
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.360
I was like, man, John, how do you do that?

784
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.199
And he goes, it's the piano and he's tapping the piano.

785
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.239
It's the piano. It's the piano. And I thanked him

786
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.519
for the autograph he gave me, because he gave me

787
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.440
a really cool autograph that we have hanging up on

788
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.760
the wall. And he says, thanks for the next hit machine.

789
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:28.719
And I said, John, thank you very much. That's a

790
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.599
really good picture and he goes, yeah, I thought you'd

791
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:32.239
like that. That was in my office, so that's why

792
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:35.960
I gave it to you. So super nice guy, him

793
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.599
and his wife, you know. And there's I've got a

794
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.880
lot of other stories too with artists you know that

795
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:47.679
I've been fortunate enough to to work with and and

796
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.280
some have picked out pianos for their friends from us.

797
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.159
Some rent pianos from us, you know, and you get

798
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.400
you know, it's it's like there's a there's a connection

799
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.360
not just between the technician and the artists, but you

800
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.840
also have to have that with the piano teachers.

801
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.199
Because we we need you like.

802
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:06.119
You guys need us, you know, we need you to

803
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:09.280
be teaching to keep our business going too.

804
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:11.280
So it's a it's a win win win all the

805
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:11.880
way around.

806
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.000
Uh and without you guys, there wouldn't be any piano

807
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.800
shops and then we're here to being able to service

808
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:19.519
you know, you all's customers.

809
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:20.880
So it's a win win win.

810
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.199
Yes, I agree. I agree, And I also agree with

811
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.800
bon Jovi. It's the piano because there's pianos I've played,

812
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.119
you know, you know this very well. There's pianos I've

813
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.559
played where it's just like flat and just not doing anything.

814
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:36.599
And then there's other pianos where I'm like, oh my god,

815
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:38.519
this is I don't know where this is coming from,

816
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:40.519
but it just sounds beautiful.

817
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:43.639
So yeah, and it's the artist too that brings out

818
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.360
the piano because you know, it can be magic when

819
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.960
you have an artist that's on stage and it's just

820
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.199
him and the piano, and he is the one that

821
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.079
they become one, you know, and that it can be magical.

822
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.719
And how I look at it is he's the NASCAR

823
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.280
driver where to pick. You know, we got to make

824
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:04.360
sure that that instrument is is up the par so

825
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.599
that there aren't any problems, you know, when he's when

826
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.320
the artist is playing, because once again, between nine and

827
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.599
fourteen thousand parts at any given time, something can be wrong, right.

828
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:20.480
And you mentioned you mentioned Billy Joel before being super nice,

829
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.559
and he is super nice. He was just in Wellington.

830
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.320
In fact, he I'm gonna say he crashed the party,

831
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.360
but friends of mine were playing on stage and he

832
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.280
ended up going up there on stage to play with them.

833
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:32.880
So I don't know if you heard about that.

834
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:36.360
I did, and I was like, oh man, he was

835
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.119
so close to coming to my shop because he's passed

836
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.800
by us to get there. Yeah, he is very nice,

837
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.280
him and his wife, and you know, it's it's nice

838
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.159
to work for artists that are as good as they are,

839
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:54.480
like Copeland Davis. He's excellent actually, Davis. I know him, Yeah, yeah,

840
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:56.559
he him and I are very good friends. And to

841
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.920
be able to work with these artists, and you know,

842
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.440
it's a language too, because you know, you have to

843
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.719
they try to explain what they want out of the

844
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.280
piano and it's the technician's job to try to figure

845
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.119
it out. And sometimes that's really hard. You know, it's

846
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:13.960
not the same English language. But when you have the

847
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:18.280
artist that is. I have noticed in my career that

848
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.679
the bigger the artists, the easier they are to work with.

849
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.599
It's the smaller fish that are trying to be the

850
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:27.679
big fish. You know, they're trying to to make it

851
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.760
give people problems. That's just what I've come up with.

852
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.239
It could just be me, but you know, every everybody

853
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.239
is different. But it's it's it's so important that the

854
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:44.239
artist is comfortable with the instrument and with the technician.

855
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:46.880
Uh. And there's many stories about that.

856
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:48.800
I'm sure a lot of concert texts out in the

857
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.800
world can can share their stories. So but it is

858
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.639
it's important, you know, to have the relationship with the

859
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.840
artists and also with the teachers because it's that once

860
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.239
again trifecta and win win right.

861
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.679
And and you mentioned it's and I'm just going to

862
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.480
go off a little bit on it. It's a different world.

863
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.639
It's a different religion. It's a different not a religion,

864
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.519
but it's a different If you're a musician, you get it.

865
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.519
And if you're if you're in this world, you understand.

866
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.960
It's just a different language. And as a music teacher,

867
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:25.400
it's you know, to understand the language and grow on that.

868
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.079
It's just amazing what flourishes because there's never any end

869
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.840
to it. And that's the beauty of having a real

870
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.239
instrument and learning on a real instrument. And even if

871
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.199
you have to start out on digital, that's fine, but

872
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.039
getting to work with work on a real piano, and

873
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:44.679
there's there's nothing like it.

874
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:46.159
You're absolutely right.

875
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.599
And the thing is is don't stop. My father always

876
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.880
told me repetition is the key to all scale. Of course,

877
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.480
the more you do it, the easier it gets. But

878
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.159
if you don't stop like I did, and you keep going,

879
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:01.480
I tell the students that come into the I promise

880
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.440
you if you stick with it, it will get easier,

881
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.880
and you will twenty years from now. You could be

882
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.599
at your house and you have a piano or someone

883
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.519
else's house and there. You got to gathering a party whatever,

884
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:14.679
and you sit down and start playing the piano. I

885
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.920
guarantee everyone's going to flock to hear you played the piano,

886
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.280
because not everybody can do it. It's not an easy instrument,

887
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.760
but in the long run, it gets easier, and if

888
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.920
you just stick with it, it makes you smarter. It's

889
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.159
a proven fact because you're getting your left hand to

890
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.920
do something different than you're right, so fires neurons in

891
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.760
your brain that most people do not use, so especially

892
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.360
as children growing up, it makes They took a survey

893
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.119
of CEOs and presidents of fortune five hundred companies, and

894
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.159
the one thing they all had in common, they all

895
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.599
took piano lessons. And so it's a proven fact. You

896
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.360
know that it does make.

897
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.239
You a smarter person. It disciplines you, it gives you patience.

898
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.239
You know, you just got to stick with it. That's

899
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:57.920
the hardest thing.

900
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.280
Well, we're just at a time to buy a Thank

901
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.679
you so much for being here with us today, and

902
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.079
i'd love to have you on again another time. We

903
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:09.079
could talk more about some of your experiences that you've

904
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.440
had with clients and more about different pianos. I would

905
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:14.719
love to get more into that.

906
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:16.719
Yeah, absolutely, anytime.

907
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:23.000
Yes, all right, Well, any last words before we.

908
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.840
I appreciate you having me on very much. Once again.

909
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.440
Anybody has any questions, you know where to reach us,

910
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.679
and that's what we're here for. We're here to educate

911
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.400
and and do what we can. And you know, I

912
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.360
will say this, I'm not saying this because it's my shop,

913
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.159
but it'll be worth coming here.

914
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:42.320
We've had people from all over the country come to the.

915
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.440
Shop to see us, and it's worth the trip because

916
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.599
you get to see something you've never seen before. So

917
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.039
it is something very unique and special.

918
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:51.719
And I'm not just saying that because it's my shop.

919
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.920
That's what that's what people tell me, so it's true.

920
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.440
It's true. Well, thank you Tobias, and you and I

921
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.679
will talk more about your podcast and about having you

922
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:02.480
back on the show.

923
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:04.400
I appreciate it. Thank you very much.

924
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.239
All right, we'll talk in a little bit. Thank you

925
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.199
so much for tuning in today. I'm so glad that

926
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:12.599
you're here and I'm so glad that you've been listening.

927
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:17.519
In any questions, you can reach Tobias at Hamilton Piano

928
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.760
Company in West Palm Beach. And with that being said,

929
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.000
I seem to say that a lot I noticed, but

930
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:28.239
I'd love that we've had this opportunity to share with

931
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.840
you today and tune in next week to find out

932
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.280
who my guest is and to help me keep music alive.

933
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:36.519
And in the meantime, I'm going to end on a

934
00:46:36.519 --> 00:47:34.360
couple of notes on my piano.