Oct. 20, 2025

The Sound of Gold with guest Tia Harding

The Sound of Gold with guest Tia Harding
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Season 1

Local talent takes stage. Tia Marie Harding is not only an independent musician on stage. She also has her band too. She is also a wife, hairstylist, Mom, grandmother.
She has the knack of juggling it all and does well at it!
This episode focuses on the real life local musician, juggling and how to keep a positive attitude and fun in all realms.

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Hi, Welcome to the Sound of Gold. It's so nice

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to be here with you today. If you listen to

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my show before, welcome back. If you're new, Welcome. The

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Sounds of Gold is based on music of today, musicians,

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music venues, music teachers, music schools, and the focus is music.

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The reason why I love to do this is because

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my vision is to keep music alive, to keep original

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music alive. And there is so much talent out in

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our communities that on a day to day basis, we

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just take it. I think a lot of us take

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it for granted because you know, we go to a

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place or a venue and they have live music, or

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you know, we hear songs on the radio, and it's

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just like every day, like we don't really think about it.

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We don't think about what goes in behind the scenes.

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Let's say to a radio show with you listening to

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music on the radio, or when you go to a

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venue and you're listening to live music. A lot of

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us don't take it into consideration, like what goes into

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the preparation for that, and what types of people show

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up to do that. Of course musicians, And it's just

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it's a niche that once you're a musician, it's almost

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like you it's in your blood and there's an understanding

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and a community of musicians that become your forever family.

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And it's a beautiful thing. And if you don't play

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an instrument and are thinking about playing an instrument, definitely

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reach out to community school, music school. Maybe check out

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your community for where you have live events where there

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are musicians that will inspire you and you on wherever

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you are in your musical journey. Withn't that being said,

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I have a dear friend of mine that will be

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on our show today and her name is Tia, and

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Tia is not only a hairdresser by day, she is

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a musician by night. She's a very talented, talented woman

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and I'm pleased. I'm so excited to call her my friend,

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and even more so that she's made time to be

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on our show today. Tia, are you backstage? Are you

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here with us?

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I'm here.

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Well, thank you for making the time to be on

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our show today.

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Oh thank you for having me.

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Yes. And I don't know if you heard like the

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back end of what I was saying, but I'll just reiterate.

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It's so important to me to share, to share you,

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to share all of our voices. I want to continue

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to be that voice for the musicians. You have so

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much talent. There's so much talent out there, and it's

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like we just get like passed by, Like it's a

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lot of people don't. A lot of people take it

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for granted, or even when we go to play at venues,

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like we don't do it for the money. However, it

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does kind of help pay the bills, So you know,

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I really want to make an emphasis on venues to

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maybe at some point in time to maybe pay a

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little bit more. Because what we put into our passion

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or what we put into anything, we get back. However,

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sometimes it's not exactly the way we want to get

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it back. But set that aside.

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Tia, I know you.

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I've known you for a while now, but I only

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know like so much of you. You're so talented, and

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I want to share with our listeners. I mean you

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you have such a juggle. You are a hairdresser, you

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are a musician, and I am a hairdresser too. I

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don't know if you know that. You and and you're

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a musician. You're a mom, you're a wife, you're a grandmother,

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which blows me away because you do not look at

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grandma at all, and it's a blessing, but you just

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you just don't. Yeah, you just don't have that grandma look.

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Coming from well, which when I was really young. So

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I am a young grandma. But I'm definitely a grandma.

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That's awesome.

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I feel like a grandma.

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But but I see other people see sometimes and they're like,

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we don't see you as a grandma.

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I'm like, okay, thank you.

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You're welcome. Your energy is always so great, You're always

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so outgoing and bubbly, and you you perform out. I mean,

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you juggle so much. And I guess what I want

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to share with our listeners is like, what what's your

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I don't know if this is the right question to

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start off with, but you know what I'm going to

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save that question. Tell us let's go back. Let's go

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back to Tia, like what part of your journey, like

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what what has inspired your journey to bring you to where.

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You are now?

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Oh?

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My goodness, say so many things like how how did

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you get here?

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So?

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I have a musical family, although I was extremely shy

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when I was young and never wanted to sing in

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front of anybody or never even knew I had a talent.

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My dad was a musician and a drummer and had

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a band my whole life, and I kind of had

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I was drawn to music, and I kind of feel

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the beats of music, and I always could, you know,

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hear the drums and be like.

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Really feel the music. But I didn't. I was very shy, and.

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I had just kind of a dysfunctional childhood like many people.

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And it's gonna seem kind of crazy, but I started

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singing karaoke, and I was extremely shy. But one time

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I was somewhere and somebody handed me a microphone and

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I just started singing, and I was hooked. I immediately

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was hooked. It was just a house party, and I

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was hooked. I went home, I bought microphones, I got CDs.

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I started practicing because I was like, oh my god,

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I want to do this more. And I don't know,

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but I just sort of gradually with doing karaoke and

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going out every week and singing, I just loved it

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more and more. I wanted to be better at it,

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and I took vocal lessons and all kinds of stuff.

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I could go on forever.

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And and then I had friends who were singers, and

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I joined karaoke contests and I won free lessons to

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you know, with one teacher. And I've had lots of

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musical friends that have inspired.

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Me over the years. Fond of Cash is one of them.

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She always invited me to her shows and asked me

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to get up and sing with her, and I would

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and it was terrifying, but I did it, and and then.

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It just made me want more and more. And my my.

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Dad passed away in twenty twelve, and it just it

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felt like it was traumatizing, but I don't want to cry,

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but I uh, it made me closer to music because

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it made me feel closer to him in a way,

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and so then it was really important for me to

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like learn an instrument and and be better at it

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and do it more professionally. So it drove me to

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do that, and I joined my sister in law's band,

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Southern Blend, and it was just the three of us

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in the beginning of Meetammy and Dave, and then it

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grew into a much bigger thing, and it was wonderful

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with shar and Moe and Dwayne and and it just

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got a lot for me, the traveling all back and forth.

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So I had to I had to stop that. And

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then and then I found a duo partner and became

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an acoustic duo for two years, and that taught me

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so much.

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And all through this time.

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I had been at home strumming my guitar and learning

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chords and trying to learn rhythms and and trying to

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learn songs and so kind of on the side, I

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was learning the guitar. And then and now here I

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am today and I'm out with Dwayne, someone from Southern

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Blend that we ended up going up and becoming a

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duo and now we're around playing different places, and I

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love it. It's exactly what I want to do. I'm

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not trying to be rich and famous. I'm not trying

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to do anything. I just want to be singing every

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weekend because it's what it brings me j way. So,

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and I'm still practicing my guitar like crazy, and I do.

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I can play probably ten different chords and you know

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a few different rhythms, but I'm still an amateur guitarist. Really,

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I'm mostly a vocalist and I'd love to be better.

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So my goals are just to keep getting better and

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keep doing what I'm doing basically.

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So for our listeners out there that are maybe newer

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musicians and are wanting to get out there, what would

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be and I might ask this again later, but what

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would be your from your journey? What words of inspiration

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would you share with them?

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I would say, do it now, because I'm fifty two

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and I wish so badly I had the courage to

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do what I'm doing now ten years ago or more.

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And I was. I was trying. I was kind of

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playing around with it, but I.

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Was so scared and full of fear to not be accepted,

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or to not be good enough, or to I was so.

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Intimidated by it, and I didn't.

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And it took what it took for me to get

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out there but I say, just go for it immediately

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right now, like, don't waste any time because you might.

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You know, who knows what can happen in life.

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You know tomorrow is not promised, So just go and

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follow your dreams and get out there and sing, go

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to open mic nights, go to.

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Karaoke, go wherever you need to go to play your.

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Songs or whatever, and just do it and don't be

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afraid because there's all levels of talent out there and

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nobody everybody's everybody has their own unique gift, and don't

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be down on yourself.

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Just go do it. So that's what I would say.

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And what do you agree? Because I mean, I don't

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we have some of the same friends, but then we're

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not together. We have other friends, right, but in our

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music families, right, because there's more than one, so many. Yeah,

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wouldn't you agree that no matter what level you're at,

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nobody's there to compare each other like who's better.

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Everybody's there just.

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To support you, and especially if you're just beginning, like

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everybody's been there, everybody's been at that beginning. Like I'm

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terrified to get on.

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Stage, yes, and terrified just to put yourself out there.

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Like that.

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Like for me, it was walking into a place and

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shaking hands with somebody and being like, I want to

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play here.

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This is a place I can see myself singing, and

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you should try me, you know what I mean.

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Like, I had a hard time with that confidence, and

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that held me back for a long time. Having that

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confidence that I can do this. I know I'm good

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enough kind of a thing. And it sounds, you know, cliche,

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I guess, because you know, we always talk about being enough,

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and there's lots of books on it and different things

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that self help stuff, but it really is true. We

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don't feel like we're good enough. We're so hard on ourselves.

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And I just say, walk right through the fear and

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do it, and just do it.

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You know, I guess you fake it till you make it.

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I don't know, but you know, that was one of

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the things that helped me back. And so I would

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tell anyone who is you know, wants to do this

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and has waited their whole life to do it or

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however many years, just do it.

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Don't worry about the rest, just do it.

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And it's so funny because we get and I'll speak

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for myself, but you and I could probably like be

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on the same page. Like human nature, we are so

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afraid of rejection.

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Of other people, we're so worried about what they think

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of us. But really the truth is is there in

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their own head worried about themselves, wondering what we think

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of them? Right, And so it's like you sometimes, I

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mean I do every now and again remind myself that

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like everybody else is thinking the same thing, because we're

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all worried about are they going to like are we

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gonna sound good enough? Are we gonna look good enough?

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We're look good enough?

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Do I?

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Am I skinny enough? Am I? Is my hair?

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kind of stuff and just go out there and are themselves.

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But yes, and I found that in.

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Our group of people that we are surrounded by, our

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close group of singers and musicians, we're all very supportive.

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Of one another.

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And you understand that everybody has a bad day once

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in a while, or everybody has a cold or a

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sinence infection they're dealing with, or you know, maybe their

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voice isn't perfect, that day, or maybe they're not on

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perfectly that day, and that's okay because that happens to everyone,

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even big name professionals, and we all have good days

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and bad days, and.

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that aren't or that are very competitive, but I like

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to focus on the people that are positive and supportive

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and that clap no matter what, you know, just clap

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because I'm putting myself out there and I am and

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I'm trying, and I just feel like that's so wonderful

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and loving and it helps you. It helps It helps

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people to really get out there and do what they love.

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So thank you.

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So as a musician, where do you guys have something

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planned coming up this weekend? Do you have a show

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coming up?

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and then we have one at Duke's Bottoms Up Bar

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and Grill on Monterey Road and Stewart, and so we

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have two gigs this weekend. We don't always have two

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gigs because Duayne and I both work day jobs during

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the week and have a lot going on, both family

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wise and everything.

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and usually we just have one. This weekend, we happen

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to have two coming up, so I'm gearing up for that,

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and I have some special songs I'm going to put

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in for Saturday, so I've been I'm working on those,

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and yeah, it's it's it's exactly what I want to do.

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A lot of people are like, you know, how come

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you don't play you know, some of the more popular places,

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are hard to get into if you don't have like

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an agent, and you don't have if you're not close

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with the right people. You know, it's kind of a

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there is some sort of like a music click out

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there that in all of them, and you know, sometimes

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you have to know somebody, to know somebody to get in.

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People take our card and we seem to get jobs

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from the places we play. So I just kind of

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go wherever it takes me. I just let and I

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want to be playing for people that are happy and

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that want to you know, that love me, So I

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just go there and go with it.

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I don't try to like get into.

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Any fancy venues or anything like that.

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If it happens, it happens, you know.

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That is not easy?

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you do have to walk into a few places and

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be like, hi, my name is Tia, and I sing

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and I do a variety of music, and I would

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love to play here and see if they you know,

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I'd love to be on your calendar and give them

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some dates, you know, or email people or do cold calls.

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that walking into places and meeting people is kind of

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the best way because they see you, they see your face, you.

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Hand them your car, you know.

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or you leave a message for someone and it is

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easy to ignore. Maybe those restaurants, people get hundreds of

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those every day where musicians are coming in and giving

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them their card, and so it does help. It also

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helps to have a social media president presence and have

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some videos and some pictures and some things. So these

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are all things that when I say go out there

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and do it, I mean go out there, take pictures

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of yourself, get some videos of yourself, have a Facebook

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that you call your band name or your musician name,

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and so that you have some content to show people

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when you're advertising yourself.

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To get those first gigs, to get yourself out there.

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It is hard. It's not easy, but you just try.

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You just you find places you would like to play,

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where you think your music will go over well, and

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you walk in and you ask to speak to who

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books the music, and you try to make contact with

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those people and talk to them and give them your

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information it and there is rejection, and sometimes they're booked

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for many months, and sometimes sometimes they don't want to

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pay very much.

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And sometimes sometimes there's a million.

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Things that I could say, but you just do it

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and one will come through, and then you get yourself

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a gig and then hopefully people take your card and

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tell other people and your friends comes to support you

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and pass out your card and it just works like that.

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It's a snowball. And you sometimes have to keep calling

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places for a while, you know, until you kind of

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get into a groove of doing those gigs and getting

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out there and getting better and better at it.

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Wreck at every gig for probably the first I don't

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know year or something, and then I started to relax

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and get really excited about the gigs, you know. So

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it just was all a process and it took forever.

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just do it, because you have to overcome all these

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obstacles and to get to the next level.

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So you just have to do it. You have to

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just start some So.

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If our listeners out there want to connect with you

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and call you to book a date, what would be

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the best way.

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To reach you, Well, my phone number and.

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About a double sided question. You have a website that

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they can go to to listen to your music.

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I took my website down because it wasn't really working

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for me. I have a Facebook called Tiamrie Music at

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facebook dot com and I also just have my basic

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Facebook Tia Karamita Harden and they can always contact me

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through there if it's completely open to the public and

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it's got my phone number, my email, my.

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Any contact me through Messenger.

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That's the way a lot of people contact me nowadays.

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And I am starting up a link tree, which is

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it's not a website, but it's I'm going to put

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them up. Put the QR code on my busy this

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card so that when I passed that out, you can

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just go straight to my link tree and you can

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go straight to my Facebook and see where I'm going

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to be playing, and you can message me and you

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can and I'll have like a YouTube channel and a

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Facebook and an Instagram linked to that.

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And I'm working on that now. I haven't completed that yet.

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But that's okay.

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I can't see because your name is covering the kitty.

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I can see the ears.

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Okay, yeah, she's here. This is peaky. What kind of

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music do you love? Do you love to play well?

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And most recently, what kind of music have you been playing?

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Do you have a genre or do you have original pieces.

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I've written like two songs and they're bad. I need

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I need help, But no, I just basically sing covers

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right now.

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And that's where I'm at.

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And I do such a huge variety of music because

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it's kind of like, whatever the mood is, I just

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try to go with it. So if they want dance

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music and discoe music and fun classics like oldies and stuff,

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I play those and if they want classic rock, I

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do my best with that. I love Fleetwood, Mac and

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Tom Petty and all those kinds of classic rock bands.

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I sing all kinds of stuff from that era, like

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the seventies, eighties, nineties, and a little bit of today.

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I love country music. I sing a lot of country

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music when it's when it's needed.

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If if it's just a variety, I put a little

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bit of everything in. But I really try to read

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the room. Dwayne is a country singer.

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Like he can.

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Sing Lionel Richie and you will make it a country

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song like there is no getting around that.

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So I usually leave the country to him.

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I may throw one or two in and try to

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be diverse and do a bunch of other stuff so

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that whoever's in the audience there's something for everyone. And

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I take requests and stuff like that. So if if

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it's kind of just like a little bit of everything,

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it's what I say, you know, sure, holding pop dance

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of seventies to today, anything, you know, anything I can

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I feel like I can sing.

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That's awesome. So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask I have

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a couple more questions, and I'm going to detour a

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little bit in and out, like we're human beings, right,

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And maybe it's just me, but I think others could

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could agree. Like you know, when you see somebody on

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television or the movie, theater or on stage performing, you

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give them this other kind of attention like, oh, like

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they got it all together, right, But we're human and

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you said it earlier before. We have families, we have jobs.

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This is just kind of like a side gig because like,

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as a musician, this is our way to like express ourselves, right, absolutely, yes,

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So I wrote the book on well it's really not

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published yet, on the juggle, the life juggle right now, you,

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like me, there is like I'm not going to call

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it the struggle. I'm going to call it the juggle.

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Okay, there's no balance.

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I Like you think, oh, there's got to be balanced.

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I'm like, well, no, there's no balance. You just have

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to look. This is my my coming from me, but

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I want to hear your version. For me, it's learning

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how to juggle, right because I am like you, the hairdresser,

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the musician, the mom, the wife, the So what's your

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secret to keep that juggle going? Because I am certain

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that there's more people out there like you and I

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that are maybe afraid to step forward because like, can

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I can I handle the juggle? Can I add more?

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Can I express myself without feeling like I'm being pulled back?

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Yes?

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So, And that was also kind of like a learning

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process for me as well. I had to find a

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way to make time for everything and the way I

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did that it took some time, but I.

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Figured it out.

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I needed to work less at my day job because

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I had to make time and space to be inspired

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and to practice my songs and to make set lists

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and to do all the other work like posting on

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Facebook and posting. That's a whole other thing, is the

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social media aspect to everything, trying to keep current everything,

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put videos up and all that. I had to take

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a day from my day job and I had to

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give myself a longer weekend to work on my music,

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and that was tough to do that. I also feel

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like being organized is imperative. If I was unorganized, like

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and didn't have lists and a plan and didn't do

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things in advance, I would be a disaster. That's helped

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because it helps you to be prepared so for whatever coming.

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Today is my day off, so it's you know, groceries

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and cleaning and meeting with you and pre cooking food

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for the week, because that's a whole other thing.

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What about what about food? What about all that stuff?

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Cooking dinner for your family?

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I mean there are nights when I make sure I buy,

475
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:22.799
you know, foods that are convenience food, so my family

476
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:24.759
can fend for themselves when I'm not home, when I

477
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:27.920
met the salon late, and then other I try to

478
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:30.240
figure out what nights that week I can cook for

479
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.039
the family, and it's.

480
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:33.319
It's it's real.

481
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:35.640
I mean, you really have to just be organized and

482
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.880
plan it out. And that's how I do it, to

483
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.839
try to find that balance, which there's never a perfect balance.

484
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:46.079
Always something's getting in the way or something is is.

485
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.720
But I find that if I'm prepared and I have

486
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:50.599
a plan and I do a little bit of this

487
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.920
and that in advance, when the curve balls come, I

488
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.160
can handle it. I can handle it. I can dodge

489
00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:01.559
those balls, and I can try to manage whatever comes

490
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:04.319
my way. I feel like that's the key for me,

491
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:08.160
is just being organized and knowing what's coming and planning ahead.

492
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.559
I completely understand because I'm in some ways the same

493
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.279
way I'm like I'm the manager. In fact, I was

494
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:19.319
talking about something irrelevant with Steve earlier and I said,

495
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.039
you know, I made an executive decision right within the

496
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:27.200
ship of Lisa because I am like the manager of me,

497
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:31.240
and like it's so important that, like our listeners out there,

498
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.680
is so important to be able to manage your life

499
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:39.240
because we're sharing our lives together as musicians, we're expressing ourselves,

500
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.920
we're sharing our lives with our listeners, with the people

501
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.279
we perform with, with our family members. We're always kind

502
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:46.599
of on stage, if you.

503
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:51.880
Think always, and as a hairdresser as well, Yeah, because

504
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.720
you're talking to people, you're greeting people, you're you know,

505
00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:56.079
you're hearing.

506
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:58.079
About their life, You're you're constantly on.

507
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:01.440
Yes, and I do find that i need quiet time,

508
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:06.160
sometimes complete silence time, just because I'm on so much

509
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.920
that I almost have to just shut down and shut

510
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:12.599
everything down and be quiet for a little while, just

511
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.160
to have that moment of space to myself. But yes,

512
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.440
that there's so much stuff we could talk about. It's

513
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.279
it's so much, but it's being human and.

514
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:27.519
And as as women and as performers and workers, and

515
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:31.119
and we're talented and we have just so much to give,

516
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:33.839
and then I think the last person we get back

517
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.640
to is ourselves. And it's so important. You brought it up.

518
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.839
It's so important to take some time every day.

519
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.599
Yep, just for yourself, just an hour or something and

520
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:46.839
out at least an how you know.

521
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.200
Right, And it's not a smoking thing. We don't we

522
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:51.400
don't smoke. It's not a smoking thing. It's more of

523
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:54.359
a I need a time out, Like just put me

524
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.319
in the corner and let me like have that piece

525
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:58.359
that ome.

526
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:04.039
Yeah, meditation maybe yeah, the size or even just for me,

527
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:06.839
it's playing my guitar. I love to just sit and

528
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:08.920
be with my songs and play my guitar.

529
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:12.039
And you know that to me is and.

530
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.640
I do all of this, what drives me to do

531
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:19.160
all of this is that that moment on stage when

532
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.799
I get to sing my songs, like that drives me

533
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:22.400
to do all this.

534
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:23.079
I'm like, if I.

535
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:27.000
Don't do all these things, have that so that you

536
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.279
have little bits of joy that come back at you.

537
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:31.799
But it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work,

538
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.359
and you just have moments of peace. You don't really

539
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.279
get a lot, but you get a little and you

540
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.200
savor those moments, you know.

541
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.240
And I can relate with you also playing an instrument

542
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.720
and all our musicians out there that are listening. If

543
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.079
I sit here and I practice my piano, if I'm

544
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.920
working on a song, like I do my own, I

545
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.759
compose my own, but if I'm playing or learning somebody

546
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:58.079
else's song, like everything else falls away, right, And you're

547
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:01.279
a musician, you can understand that musicians out there, like

548
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.839
once you're focused on your musician, like like you know,

549
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.359
the house could be like it could be pouring outside

550
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.480
and your car windows can be open, then you're just

551
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:13.759
like totally zoned out. Yeah. Yeah, So it's a beautiful thing.

552
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:15.759
So being a musician, we kind of is a gift

553
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.200
we give ourselves.

554
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:20.599
Yes, right, kind of a meditation when you're just you

555
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.160
with your music alone. And I feel like I need

556
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.079
that not distracted time, that quiet time to really be

557
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.359
inspired though. That that's what helps me learn and grow

558
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.880
and be better at what I do, is just having

559
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:33.519
those moments.

560
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.240
I need those moments of peace. And I don't you know,

561
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.160
it's not really.

562
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.599
Religion, but I pray and I you know, meditate and

563
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:45.839
have God and that that helps me too.

564
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.359
I sometimes just need to have a conversation with God.

565
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.160
But you know, I'm not trying to make this a

566
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:56.079
religious thing, but appreciate that I have that. So that

567
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.039
helps me too, helps me be centered and calm so

568
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.079
that I can go into my day or go to

569
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.400
my show and know that I'm giving it my best.

570
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.359
It's just we need we all need that too. I

571
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.400
think if there's too much chaos all the time and

572
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.720
you never have any downtime or any peaceful time, it's

573
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:16.000
you can, yeah, you could really get sick or something

574
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.759
because it's just you have to have that too. With

575
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.279
all this stuff going on, with with the just with

576
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.640
having such a busy life, that means there needs to

577
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.559
be that time alone.

578
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.160
Absolutely I agree with that. And I mean, it's just

579
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.200
you said something before, and this has come up on

580
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.200
several of my shows. We mentioned it's work, right, but

581
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.079
for our listeners that are newer at music and that

582
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.920
are are stepping into it, or even for those who

583
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.839
are not musicians and are listening, and it's not the work,

584
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:50.759
like oh, you know, it's time to go break the

585
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.799
grass or or walk you know, or walk ten dogs

586
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.400
and pick up after them. And I mean, oh, animals.

587
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:01.400
Thanks to animals are off, But yes, I get what

588
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:01.720
you need.

589
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:06.640
It's not hard physical labor, uh, it's it is.

590
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:11.319
It is it's attention. It's our attention that that need.

591
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.359
Our focus. That's our work. It's our focus because to

592
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:17.759
play an instant, to play a song, to play somebody's music,

593
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:22.720
even your own, you need to be completely mindfulness and

594
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:27.599
focused in the moment, you know. And we're like as adults,

595
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.799
we're still big kids. We're like, okay, is that ice

596
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:31.640
cream still left over in the in the fridge? Like

597
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:33.480
what am I going to cook for dinner? Well, you know,

598
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:34.519
is there food for break?

599
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.119
It's not a million today.

600
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.720
Right, So so that when we step outside of that,

601
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:43.640
we're focusing on the music. That's our work and it's

602
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:47.440
passion driven. It's not a chore because it comes from

603
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.039
the heart and it's channeled in and it's a beautiful

604
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.240
kind of work. So for our listeners out there, it's

605
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:56.680
not you know, it's not the work that you know,

606
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.799
Oh I hate going to work today kind of thing

607
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.079
is like yeah, you know, sign me up, you know, like,

608
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:02.480
let's go.

609
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.079
It was on I can't wait because my time is

610
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.400
the morning. So when I get up in the morning,

611
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:12.319
I'm on a mission. I'm on a mission to brush

612
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.400
my teeth, feed the dogs, let them out, get my guitar,

613
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.240
get my tablet, get my songs out, and go.

614
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.759
You know, that's like my time in the morning is

615
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:21.319
to do that.

616
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.359
And I favored that hour that I get in the

617
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:26.920
morning before I have to get ready for work and

618
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.160
then the day starts at night and then I'm pulled away.

619
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.839
But I crave those moments of just that piece where

620
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:36.160
I can just zone in on the music and just

621
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.759
be totally present with the music and not have all

622
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.119
that other stuff swimming around. Although on the other hand,

623
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.200
because I'm a mom and everybody everything else, I have

624
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.119
a guilt about it too, So I mean it's real that,

625
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.799
you know, that's really real that I feel guilty about

626
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:54.559
it that.

627
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.079
I take that time for myself. But I need that

628
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:58.400
time for myself, So.

629
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.119
You know, there's always that, I guess, And when you're

630
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:03.880
a mom and when you're a life and when you're

631
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.119
tied to you know, a family and you have a

632
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.200
bunch of stuff, it's like I always feel like, should

633
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.279
I be doing something for somebody else or should I

634
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.720
be No, I need this, I need to do this.

635
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:13.640
Or I won't be.

636
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.119
Good for this weekend when I have a show. You know,

637
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.319
I have to do these things. So I have a

638
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:19.000
little bit of both.

639
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:21.440
So you have an agenda for your music, time for

640
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:22.079
your practice.

641
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:22.839
Yeah.

642
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:26.119
So I want to mention this because it's going to

643
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.279
just intertwine with what you're saying. And this show is

644
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.559
not about me, It's about you. Like I always like

645
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.680
my focus is on my guests. But I'm going to

646
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.240
make a point. There was there was a time in

647
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.440
my in my past where my my dad had passed away,

648
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:44.279
and for me personally, it hit home so hard where

649
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.039
it was like and I was I was living the

650
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.799
lifestyle of at the time, I was single mom, living

651
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.119
the life out style of a single mom, working six

652
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.279
days a week and also living out my passion not

653
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.359
only music but acting, and you know, I was doing

654
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.839
the juggle and when my dad passed it kind of

655
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.599
hit me straight on, like girl, like what is your priorities?

656
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:06.400
Yeah, like.

657
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.960
What's going on here? Because you need to pre pre

658
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:16.519
prioritize like what comes first. Right, So for me and

659
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:19.480
I was we're talking about ten years ago, ten fifteen

660
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.519
years ago. For me, that kind of like realigned. I

661
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:26.559
had to do like an inner inventory. Yes, like you

662
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:31.239
know what, I cannot lose myself as a as an artist.

663
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:34.159
I need to be able to express myself. But I

664
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:40.320
also have threads out to family members, and you know

665
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.039
I can't not attend to that too. Yes, so you know,

666
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.719
going back to that juggle, and there's really no balance,

667
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.079
But it's kind of like meeting each responsibility where it's

668
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.800
at and giving it just enough where it's not completely

669
00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:01.159
taking ourselves out of who we are completely. I mean, yes, completely,

670
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:04.920
and so so it's it's again I'm calling it the juggle,

671
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.880
not the struggle, because it's it's all fun, it's all good,

672
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.280
it's all healthy. I think years ago I wrote a

673
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:16.639
book called the Tree, not the Three, the Tree of Life,

674
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.840
right and and what it I mean, it's a different topic,

675
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.400
but my point is is that I so believe that

676
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.360
every human being is so talented, especially our talented artists

677
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:33.639
out there, musicians. We're this tree with many branches and

678
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.800
it's like we need, We're thirsty, we want, we want

679
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.960
to be you know, we want the sun, we want

680
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.440
we want the love, we need to be nourished. But

681
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.280
at the same time, we also need to be able

682
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:48.239
to grow. Yeah, you know, so it's it's it's a juggle.

683
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.199
So and what's going to work for you might not

684
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:54.719
work exactly for me, but that's okay. It's just it's

685
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:57.519
it's making it work just at work.

686
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.480
I mean, like I said, just try to state organized,

687
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.119
figure out what needs to be done, you know, make

688
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.679
a list. I feel like that with my family too.

689
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:09.599
I have a lot of family things going on. I

690
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.079
have my husband's family, I have my family. We have

691
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.760
a lot of holidays at our house and birthday parties

692
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.480
and things just because we are kind of in the

693
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.360
middle of where everyone is and and and we have

694
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.079
a nice big backyard and so it just works out.

695
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:29.559
And I just I always say it like, the only

696
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.159
way I could do all this stuff is if I.

697
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:33.800
Stay ahead of myself.

698
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:38.360
Once I get behind and everything, then I'm I am

699
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:42.880
struggling to try to catch up. But just planning things

700
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.800
and making foods and doing the shopping that needs to

701
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.039
be done for whatever, it's it's just a lot.

702
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:50.360
And I.

703
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.199
I feel like staying organized is the key to it

704
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.280
all because define the way I can remember.

705
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.440
First of all, I have to put everything in a calendar.

706
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.960
I have to remember when even on my days off,

707
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:07.760
whatever's happening, even if it's that time to practice that

708
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:11.320
goes in the calendar, that's my time. That's my spendial time.

709
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:15.199
And everybody has to understand. I feel like a level

710
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.079
of communication with your family and your and your loved

711
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.639
ones and your spouse or whatever has to be happened to.

712
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:26.679
Like I have to say, I need that time for myself. Please, don't,

713
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.000
you know, be upset with me. But I need that

714
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.519
time for myself to be inspired and to have peace

715
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.320
and to stay calm and to be able to handle

716
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:40.079
whatever comes my way. That's my time. And you have

717
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.800
to sometimes, like you said, reprioritize what's going on in

718
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.639
your life so that everything is important. Okay, nothing is

719
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:52.639
not important, but you're trying to make time for all

720
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:56.519
these things. And so it's it's it's organizing your thoughts,

721
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.440
it's organizing your day, it's organizing your mind to do

722
00:37:59.480 --> 00:37:59.719
all that.

723
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.599
Having good communication with your.

724
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.119
Family and your friends to help them understand, you know,

725
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.039
what you need in order to make all that happen too,

726
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:09.280
Like I need help.

727
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.000
I can't always do everything by myself.

728
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:13.000
I have to you know, I have to ask sometimes

729
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:14.440
I have to ask my daughter, can you do the

730
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.840
grocery shopping? I have to because I might not be

731
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:19.880
able to get to it today, or it's just managing.

732
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:20.440
It's man.

733
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.239
It's like like you're the manager of your life and

734
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.679
you have to be the manager of your life to

735
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:27.199
make all this happen.

736
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:29.760
And I completely understand.

737
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:29.719
You have to.

738
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:30.719
I do you.

739
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.079
I live by an agenda if it's every day, even

740
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.000
my days off. Everything is written down, even for.

741
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.679
Inspiration, even for things that you should think would come naturally.

742
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.960
But if there's so much going on, that inspiration can't

743
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.280
flow because there's there's so much blocking it. So you know,

744
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.400
you almost have to make time for the inspiration, for

745
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.559
the moments of nothing. I need those moments of nothing

746
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.199
in order to feel inspired where it's like I don't

747
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.880
have anything I have to do and I can just

748
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.880
like we said, you know that that meditation moment, that

749
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.280
time is just for you, has carved out just for you,

750
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.920
and sometimes that needs to go in the calendar that time.

751
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:10.559
Yes, absolutely, it.

752
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:12.239
Definitely has to go in there. And I don't know

753
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.599
if this maynor well, I would think it has something

754
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.639
to do with what we're talking about. I have this

755
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.440
conversation a similar conversation with my daughter and a friend

756
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.599
of mine, and the moral of it all was we

757
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.400
were talking about being in you know, having to go

758
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.840
out and be around other people, or doing other things

759
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.119
for not only ourselves, but having to be somewhere somebody

760
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:38.840
else's house or somebody else's event, or just having to

761
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.400
show up for somebody else. And my whole point was,

762
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.880
and you know what, even though, as a musician and

763
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.039
as a human being, when we have to step aside

764
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:54.239
from that juggle of our regular routine of doing what

765
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:56.480
we do, and we have to set aside to do

766
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:58.960
something else that sometimes we really don't want to do.

767
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.840
It's for someone else and we're doing you have to

768
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.320
remember our show. We want to show up for them,

769
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.000
so we do exactly, but we really don't have time

770
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.920
to do it or you know, yes, right, So I.

771
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:14.360
Guess my point is is sometimes when those opportunities show

772
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.000
up and you kind of get it, I don't know.

773
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:18.519
Sometimes I feel under my breath, I'm a little annoyed.

774
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:20.280
I don't want to do this or do that, but

775
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.360
I go anyway, or I show up anyway. I have

776
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:26.480
to remind myself it's not for me it's for you. Yeah,

777
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.559
and that just kind of shines the light. And when

778
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:30.960
I send this to a friend of mine and I

779
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:32.920
said this to my daughter, I'm like, you know, you're

780
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:37.079
making somebody else's day brighter just by showing up. Yeah,

781
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.039
like forget like get out of your own way, get

782
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.880
out of it sometimes, just like step aside from your routine and.

783
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:45.360
Just go show up for a minute. Yeah.

784
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.480
It's sometimes to get out of that rut of routine

785
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.280
because we get so like hamster. We have the hamster

786
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:52.760
in our own hamster reel.

787
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:56.880
Absolutely always I do have to do that, and I

788
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.000
get that way sometimes and I think to I always

789
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.360
think I'm going to get out when I don't have

790
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.199
a show or when I don't have anything going on

791
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.559
and go and see it another and go see my

792
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:14.519
friends saying. And I sometimes have a hard time doing

793
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:19.199
that because you know, I rarely get that time where

794
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.119
I don't have to be somewhere, and so sometimes I

795
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.119
just want to.

796
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:26.679
Hang out, you know, and do nothing.

797
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.199
But I do feel like it's important, like you said,

798
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.320
to get out of your head and show up for

799
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.480
somebody else once in a while and do other things

800
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:37.039
and get out of your own.

801
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:38.920
Comfort zone and go do stuff. Sometimes you have to

802
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:39.280
do that.

803
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.719
Too, and then that could turn into an inspiration or

804
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:44.239
something that you have no idea what.

805
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:44.880
It could turn into.

806
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:45.719
So you never know.

807
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:48.320
You could see somebody you haven't seen him forever and

808
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:49.280
make a connection.

809
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:50.519
You could, you know.

810
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.079
It's just a good thing to force yourself a little

811
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.079
bit out of your comfort zone sometimes and go do

812
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:59.280
other things. It's just sometimes that works out good for

813
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:01.280
you too. It's the break that you needed, and you

814
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:04.079
didn't even know that it was going to be like that,

815
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.840
you know. Yes, so you might be fighting the whole

816
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.159
way there, but then when you get there, you have

817
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:09.320
a good time, you know, and then.

818
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:10.880
It's like, I'm so glad I went. You know.

819
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:15.360
That's so true. Now, do you practice every day every day?

820
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:16.599
That's awesome?

821
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.559
Every day? Probably not for lengthy periods of time.

822
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.000
But sometimes I get ten fifteen minutes to just like

823
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.079
play a few songs, and sometimes I get an hour,

824
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.079
you know, or whatever. But it's never it's never a

825
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.760
set amount of time I like to. I like to

826
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:36.079
I'd like to focus on my music for about an

827
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.840
hour every day. I don't always get an hour, right,

828
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.000
but I always do something even if it's just listening

829
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:43.760
to a song that I'm trying to learn, even if

830
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.920
it's just listening to it on repeat and just learning

831
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.559
the words and learning the you know, the melody and stuff.

832
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.199
So now you play guitar, do you play by ear

833
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.519
or do you read sheet music or you do both.

834
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:56.599
I just read chords.

835
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:01.280
I have like a Ultimate Guitar app and it's got

836
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:06.920
chords and lyrics, and I save the scores that I

837
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.559
want and I send it to I have four Score

838
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.920
in my on my tablet, and that's like an organization

839
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.719
for I guess for lots of other things, but I

840
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:20.079
do it for the music. So I save the music

841
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.519
sheets from guitar tabs and I send them over to

842
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.440
my four Score and then I can organize them into

843
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.440
playlists and stuff like that, and then I can just

844
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:33.079
use that as my practice thing. So I can just

845
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:34.960
pull up any song and I've got the chords and

846
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.840
the lyrics, and then I still sometimes have to go

847
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.119
through it and go through the song a few times

848
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:44.480
to remember like the rhythm or the case, the tempo

849
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.000
and stuff like that.

850
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.360
But that's how I that's how I do it. I don't.

851
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.519
I started to learn to read music and I was

852
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.519
just getting there, and stuff happened. Life got in the way,

853
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:02.119
and I have to stop the lessons that I was taking.

854
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:06.360
And so then I just went to reading guitar chords

855
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:08.480
and trying to figure out how to make the shapes

856
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.880
with my hand, and I watch YouTube and I don't

857
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.679
take any official lessons right now, but I'm considering going

858
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:17.880
back to school for it because i feel like I'm

859
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.719
a little stuck at this one place and I'd like

860
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:21.920
to progress.

861
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:23.360
So I've been talking.

862
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:25.480
To my husband about maybe taking lessons again, but I'll

863
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:28.400
wait till we get into season because I'll need to

864
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.079
make more money.

865
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:33.320
Yes, well there's if you ever have questions, just to

866
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:35.440
me a text. I mean, we're the happy to answer

867
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:36.400
questions for you.

868
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:37.159
Awesome.

869
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:42.199
Yeah, so it's a practice. So really you're like self taught.

870
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:44.800
You're working every day, you're committed.

871
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.440
I've taken lessons a few times, just for short periods

872
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.239
of time, like for I took it lesson for like

873
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.599
eight months one time and like eight months another time,

874
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:56.480
and then I would watch lessons on YouTube. Yes, while

875
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.239
I did that for a while, I haven't done that

876
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.039
in a while. I might start going back to that

877
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.760
before I can take like real paid lessons, and that's

878
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:07.880
helpful too, But just repeating certain patterns over and over

879
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.280
and over again with your fingers, trying to just kind

880
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:14.440
of make it second nature. That's what I find needs

881
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.519
to happen with singing, vocalizing and playing the guitar.

882
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:20.280
Is a lot of people do it and do it

883
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:22.320
very well. It's hard.

884
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:28.519
It's really really hard to sing well and play the guitar.

885
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:33.679
So I can sing well, but put a guitar on

886
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.599
my end, and the same song that I could soar at,

887
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:41.920
I can barely eke out because I'm so focused on

888
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.239
what's going on down here that it's hard for me

889
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:51.480
to really use my true voice. So, yeah, you sound right.

890
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:52.840
I don't mean to cut you off, but we have

891
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.880
a woman it's left pay sure with our listeners, how

892
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:57.880
are we get in touch with you so we can

893
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.320
we can book you for a local venue, or we

894
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.639
can connect with you and listen to your music on

895
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:04.280
Facebook or online.

896
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:09.320
Okay, I have a Facebook it's called Tia Marie Music,

897
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:13.239
and you can look me up and you can find

898
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.840
they'll you'll they'll be videos on my page of little

899
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.960
little clips of me singing places and me and Dwayne

900
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:25.199
or Dwayne and I, I should say, and our duo

901
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:31.719
is called Gypsy Cowboy Duo. And also you can find me.

902
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.239
I don't have blink Tree up yet, so I don't

903
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.280
have that to give to you, but I can give

904
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:41.480
you my phone number and you can call me. But

905
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:44.079
finding me on Facebook is probably where you could find

906
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.480
me and message me right now is the best thing

907
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:47.280
I could give to you.

908
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:51.960
So Tia Karamita Harden or Tia Marie.

909
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:55.599
Music on Facebook dot com and that's where you can

910
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.639
find me and and message me on Instant Messenger or

911
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.039
me because my phone number is listed there.

912
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.719
Okay, awesome, awesome, well, Tia, thank you so much. It's

913
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.400
been such a joy to have you on the show.

914
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.039
And for our listeners, you've heard Tia here first and

915
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.679
hope you get out to see her and connect with her.

916
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.079
And if I don't see you this weekend, have two

917
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.400
awesome shows and I know that we'll talk soon.

918
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.800
Thank you so much. I've enjoyed this very much. Thank you.

919
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.480
I'm honored to be on here. Thank you.

920
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.159
You're welcome.

921
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.159
All right, we'll talk to you bye bye.

922
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.239
Thank you so much for tuning in today that was

923
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.719
tiam Marie Harden and as you heard tiam Marie Music,

924
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.519
I'm sorry you have my cat here who wants attention

925
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.559
to Oh, she has to be on the show. She's insistent. Again,

926
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.119
thank you for tuning in. Tune in next week as

927
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:51.440
you will find out who our guest is next week,

928
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:56.679
our music guest. And in the meantime, let's keep music alive.

929
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.559
Let's keep it going. There's lots of talent out there.

930
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:03.000
Go out up to your local community venues, find out

931
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:07.079
who's playing, go out support them. And if you are

932
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:11.400
starting a musician, go out and play and you'll find

933
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:14.119
you have an extended music family out there waiting to

934
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:15.400
meet you and to hear you.

935
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.599
And no doubt.

936
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.599
Yourself, give yourself lots of credit to be all that

937
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.920
you are. And yeah, so thank you so much for

938
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.400
tuning in today, have a wonderful week. See you next Monday.

939
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:29.840
Keep music alive.