Dec. 1, 2025

The Sound of Gold with guest THICK AS THEIVES BAND

The Sound of Gold with guest THICK AS THEIVES BAND
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Local treasure coast band in south florida. Lead singer is also a doctor by day. Tune in to find out what it takes to have a full time career, a practice schedule. Singing tunes from the 80's and 90's. Playing with a 5 member band at local venues in treasure coast.

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Gold. And it is December. First,

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it's starts to believe it's story to December. I hope

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everyone had a nice Thanksgiving. If you are tuning in

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from the United States, we share that Thanksgiving holiday together.

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And if you're tuning in from overseas, I hope you

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had a nice weekend. And while we're here today, if

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you've been here before, you know, welcome back. If you're

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new to the show, I would like to share with

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you the purpose of why I do this show. And

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The Sound of Gold is based on music, musicians and

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music schools, music teachers, music venues. I obviously love cats.

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If you're watching this live, you'll see that I have

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two of my cats joining us today and they love

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music too. So with that Bean said, we're in good company.

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Wherever you are, wherever you're tuning in from. My heart

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is full of music, and everything around us is music.

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Music is so healing, Music lifts us up with music

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can depending on how we feel, we can connect to

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music at any level. So that being said, it's fun

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when we have the opportunity to get out and about

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and to meet up and see live performances. I have

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a scheduled guest today who may be writing behind with work,

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and so once once he's perhaps gets off of work,

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he'll join us. But in the meantime, while I have

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your attention, I thought maybe I could just play a

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little bit of music for you and then talk a

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little bit more about the meeting of music and what

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it feels like to be a musician. What it's not work. Right, So,

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anytime we go out we see a musician playing or performing,

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they definitely have put the time into practicing. They've taken lessons,

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or they have a mentor. I know I do. I

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still take lessons even though I've played for forty five

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years and I'm always learning something new. But every time

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I play a performance, anytime I play for an audience,

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it's not work. It's something I enjoy doing. I just

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know how to do it. And if you are a

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musician who's listening, you'll understand that it's just it's just

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sharing a love of passion.

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Beca and.

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I'm not playing from many sheet music. When I go

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to open mic, they call me the instant composer. I

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just kind of play the energy that's in the room,

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or play whatever is channeling through me, and so I

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get to share that with you. I get to share

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that with my audiences when I perform live as well.

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I wanted to focus well, as I mentioned earlier, I

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have a guest we're expecting again might be working over time,

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so we're waiting for their presence, so before they get here,

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I do want to talk more about music and more

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about what goes into it. So other than having a

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radio show, I'm a music teacher. I teach piano and

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I teach music theory. And if you are a musician,

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that's listening. If you are not a musician, that's that's

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still listening. Music theory basically is a language, right, So

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when we let's say we read a newspaper or we

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read a book, whatever language we speak, we're reading the word.

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We understand the grammar, we understand pronunciation. You know, there's

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a difference between a question mark and a period. There's

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a difference between an exclamation mark and a comma. So

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wouldn't that being said the grammar and the literature that

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we learn in school to speak a language or to

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read a language, it's kind of the same when it

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comes to music. If you're learning to read sheet music,

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it's learning a different language. It's learning the pronunciations, it's

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learning what we call the dynamics, it's learning what we

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call Ila's call it ornaments. Right, So you can have

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just a sheet of music, whatever song you're picking, and

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it could have like all these details on the sheet music,

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and we have no idea what they mean. That's where

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music comes in. Music theory comes in and breaks down

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the meanings of how to play a sheet how to

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play sheet music. So if you are a musician who

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just not read music but can play by ear, that's

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almost another talent. Well, it is another talent, And I've

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learned you can learn to play by ear with training

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your ear right, really listening. So when you're training your

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ear to listen, you're listening to language, and you already

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can hone into the grammar of it, if that's the

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right way to say it. So the same thing goes

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with reading music theory and reading music and learning music theory,

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is you learn that grammar and how to play sheet

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music when you're learning music as me teaching as a

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from my point of view, every teacher has their own way,

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so there's no one teacher better than the other.

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We all have.

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Something different to share and we all have something to teach.

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So if you were working with me and we went

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over the notes and learning the different grammar grammar, I

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wouldn't I would not encourage you to get overwhelmed with it,

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because it can be overwhelming. So I would suggest, and

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if you're new to music and new to wanting wanting

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to play an instrument, get to know your instrument. Learn

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like you have your low end, your high end. Learn

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the different sounds you you have your mid octave. And

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I'm going by a piano because piano is my my instrument.

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But there's guitar, there's banjo, there's drums, there's so many

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different other instruments out there. Learn the difference in the sound,

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because if you think about it, there's a difference. I'm

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gonna I'm kind of mixing this up today in regards

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to grammar. I'm going back and forth in regards to grammar.

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If I'm yelling at you opposed to speaking at a

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low tone, it's a different dynamic. That's the term we'd

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use in music. In literature, it's a different pronunciation of

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how we would speak or how we would we would

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say something. So the same thing goes for the piano

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or again the instrument, whatever instrument you're playing, pay attention

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to the sound because depending on where you are playing

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your low end, high end, mid range, it's going to

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have have a different feeling. And that's another thing too.

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Music is all about feelings, right. What I said earlier

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is you can relate to music no matter how you feel,

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no matter what level you're at, we can all relate

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to music. So when you're playing music, the same is true.

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You're playing what you feel. The more you can connect

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to a piece that you're learning to play, the more

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you can understand what the story is, the more you

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can relate to that story, the more you can play it.

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I have a saying that I tell my students, if

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I can't feel what you're playing, I can't hear it.

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And so when you play a piece, really get in

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tuned with where that piece is coming from. Understand the

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story of the song. Right, the song the lyrics is

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the same as the story, So understand where it's all

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stemming from, so that you can you can connect with

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that song, kind of like being an actor. Right when

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you're acting, when you're on stage and I have theater background.

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When you're on stage, when you're playing a character, you're

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connected to where that character is emotionally. You are connected

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where that character is in space and time, depending on

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what the story is. So connect with your song, connect

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with what you want to play, and connect with understanding

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where the song is coming from. With the same idea

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when you're sitting and you're playing and wanting to create right,

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there's no limit. There's no limit on playing lower, higher,

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mid range. It's just expressing who you are through sound.

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And I think the biggest how would I say this,

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There's a few different ways I want to express us.

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You want to get to know your instrument, know your lows,

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your mid range, your highs, but you want to play

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in a way that you're expressing yourself. However, the secret

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is you have to give yourself a permission, right, Because

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I think it's really scary when like someone says, okay,

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just play something. And I have a lot of my students,

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they'll be like, well, I don't know how to play.

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But you know what, we all do. We all have

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this gift to play an instrument. We all have this

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gift to play music. It's just kind of getting out

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of our own way and being a little free without

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limitations to just play. Easier said than done, perhaps, However,

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for my musicians, for my non musicians, for my friends

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that are wanting to learn to play or are playing

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like step outside the box, right, I can express to

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you that growing up, I took classical lessons. I started

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when I was five. I played up until thirteen fourteen,

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and then I kind of went off and did other things.

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But I played. I played many years, and then I

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went back to lessons. But I had to learn. I

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was a classical teaching. You are taught very structured, right.

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You were taught to read music and to play it.

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Let's say perhaps classical Beethoven or chopin. You have to

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play it a certain way with the timing correct, and

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you have to It's almost like going to somebody's house no,

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I'm going to take that back. It's almost like having

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to follow directions right. Let's say you are show up

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at a new job and you're told you have to

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do this, this and this, but I've never done it before,

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so you're maybe tagging along with someone that's going to

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show you the way of how to do the job right.

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So with music, when you're classically taught, when I was

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classically taught, you are taught inside this box of having

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to learn it a specific way, right, So it limits

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it limited me. It limits us as musicians when we're

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just playing what we're reading right, when we're playing what

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we're hearing, we get to hone into what we hear

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and play it. However, some of us can also improvise

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on that as well. I don't think there are any

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two musicians that are the same. Every musician has a gift.

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Every musician has an ear for how they play. If

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you have set Billy Joel down and you set Elton

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John down, they are not going to play the same

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exact way. They're going to have their own style, their

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own way of playing. Another analogy I can make is

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if you are not if you and I were given

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a recipe to bake a cake. Okay, and I'm kind

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of going all over the map, but hopefully all over

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the map today. But I'm zigzagging a little bit, and

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I hope you're following along. If you and I were

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given a recipe, let's say we're going to bake a cake,

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and I'm on one side of the kitchen, You're on

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the other side. We both have the same ingredients. I

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guarantee you our two cakes are not going to taste

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the same because we kind of give it our own

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little flavor. We might add maybe I might add a

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little bit more vanilla extract if it calls for that,

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or or I might not where you might, you know,

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you might add a little something different to your recipe.

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Even though we're following the directions, we might improvise a

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little bit on our recipe, so it's not going to

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turn out the same. That's where I go back to saying,

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no two musicians are the same. If you are looking

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at my listeners out there, if you have not ventured

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out to an open mic, check out whatever town you're in.

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There are open mics everywhere that you can connect with

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friends out there that will support you, loop that will

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support you in your music journey. If you're just in

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the beginning of your music journey and you're wanting to

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get out and play and be around musicians that are

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going to support you and growing through music and learning,

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that's the place to be. So don't be afraid. Don't

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be afraid to step out there. I can promise you.

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In past radio shows, I've had lots of guests on

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that have said that they have been so supported in

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the music community they become an extended family. So definitely

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step out and try and connect with music people out there.

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There are also online music schools that you can connect

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with online friends, and there's Zoom. There's different ways to

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to your videos. There are great schools out there that

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do that and great communities where you can meet friends

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that way. So I encourage you to do that. Getting

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back to the language of music, don't let it overwhelm you.

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language you speak. Whatever language you speak, music again is

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like learning another language. But don't be overwhelmed because it's

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step by step. There's so much to learn about music

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and it never ends in the forty five years i've

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been playing music. I'm still learning. As I mentioned earlier,

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I still take lessons. There's so much more for me

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to learn. That will never come a time where I'll say, Okay,

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it's kind of like the cake. Like the cake is baked,

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it's good. We're done with cooking. That doesn't happen with music,

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I'm not getting too far for some of you. There's

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the timing in music. You know, you have your coord notes,

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your half notes, you're dotted half notes, your whole notes,

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like those will never change. You have you have the

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different dynamics in songs, and depending on the sheet music

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you purchase, and if you're learning from sheet music, there's

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a consistency to about playing what you're reading on the page,

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like that doesn't change unless you change it up and

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want to add a different rhythm to it. When you're learning,

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keep it basic. I have a student of mine where

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we'll start. We're working up on the housetop, right. We

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have a show this Saturday or recital. And for this

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one student, she's like well, you know, she calls me

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miss Lisa. She's well, miss Lisa, well, what about like

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we start playing the songs, what about this page over here?

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you know, play this or that? And I say, okay, well,

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let's start at the beginning. Let's play it through first,

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and then we can go in and kind of micromanage

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different sections to make them sound smoother or better. But

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when you're playing a whole piece, I'm trying to make

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an analogy here, so that's understandable. You don't want to

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look at you don't want to look at the whole

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staircase from the bottom of the stairs up because it's overwhelming.

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so that you're not getting overwhelmed, we kind of break

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it down, even with my student, measure by measure, and

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we learn that measure by measure, you're kind of ironing

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out each section and taking it step by step instead

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of looking at the whole staircase from the bottom up.

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you're learning music, when you're playing each measure, when you're

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reading sheet music, you're not overwhelmed. It's going to take

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as long as it's going to take to learn a

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piece of music, and so you can't give yourself like, Okay,

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well I'm going to learn this song in three months

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and know it great and perform it like yes and no,

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you can do that, however you want to work at

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the pace that you're at. I have another student that

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enjoys bringing in very difficult pieces to start off with,

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and it seems to take us a really long time

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to learn it because they're not necessarily there yet. So

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sometimes I will bring them in an easier version of

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sheet music to learn from. So, going back to the

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language comparison, like if we're learning a language from the beginning,

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we're not gonna I'm not gonna give you an essaye

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or write, or I'm not gonna say okay, read this

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five hundred page book. When you're just starting out and

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just getting to learn the timing, the dynamics, the different

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meanings of like crescendo de crescendo, there's just so much

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to learn and not to be overwhelmed with it step

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by step. I still to this day have to work

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on my timing. I still to this day I have

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to practice my scales. I still want to get better

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at it. I still want to do some diverse things

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with what I know, but I have to be mindful

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of the timing. I think the greatest gift we give

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ourselves when we're learning to play an instrument is not

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only learning the music theory of it, but it's the

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discipline of practicing. And not only does the discipline of

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practicing how to play music help you focus on your

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instrument and help you focus on learning how to play

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reading music, or listening to music, it helps you in

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so many other areas of your life that I can't

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pinpoint specifically in what ways it's going to specifically help you,

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but I promise you, once you're focus on learning an instrument,

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learning the music, learning how to play, you're going to

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find other areas of your life where you become more

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patient with yourself with learning different things, whether it be

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at work or at home. It's just it's a gift

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you give yourself. So if you're out there you're not

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playing an instrument yet, I encourage you to reach out

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to an online community, reach out to maybe a music

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studio in your community, to start taking lessons, and to

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reach out and find out what ways you can better yourself,

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or if you're just getting started, you can always the

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sound of gold is. I always post this on my

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Facebook page Alisa Evil Gold or by Lisa Evil Goold.

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So you're welcome to join me on Facebook. If you

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have any questions, you can always message me there. In

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addition to that, just understand that whatever you're learning, whatever

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instrument you're learning, give yourself the patients and the grace

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for learning it. And it's going to take as long

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as it's going to take. And I know that whatever

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teacher you choose, you want to feel comfortable with them.

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You want to be able to feel understood, and you

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want to be able to work at the pace that

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you can work at smoothly, easily. And yeah, just have

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fun with it at the end of the day, that's

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what it's all about. It's just about having fun. Well,

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with that being said, I think I'm going to play

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a little bit for you now. I have no sheet

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music practiced, or no sheet music in front of me.

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I have no music practiced other than just sitting here

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and kind of honing into energy I'm feeling. I'm just

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playing a little something for you to sit back and relax.

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If you're in a space and a place where you

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can lay back and close your eyes, go ahead and

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do so, and let my music kind of take you

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where it takes you. If you are driving, don't close

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your eyes, but let the music take you where it

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takes you. So enjoy. I'll play for a little bit

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and then I'll talk for a little bit and hope

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for the our guests will join it and and meet

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with them soon.

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At anything anything, anything, anything, dis.

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If you're just tuning in, this is the Lisa Gold Show.

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Actually I used to have a show called the Lisa

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Gold Show Lisa Eva Gold. This is the sound of

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Gold and we talk about music, musicians, music schools, music venues. Today.

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My guest perhaps got called out to work over time,

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and we were going to focus on a lead singer

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who was because Thieves is the name of the group

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and he performs out on Treasure Coast. And not only

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is he uh is he a lead singer, he's also

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a physician. So we will give him the benefit of

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the doubt. Perhaps he got called off to go take

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care of somebody who's not feeling well. So, with that

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being said, the purpose of the show today the focus

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because thieves and our lead singer and a physician. Earlier

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in my show today, I was talking about the language

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of music, music theory, help. Being a musician and playing

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is not work. And you know, we still learn, go

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to school to know what we know and to play

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how we play. But in regard to the guests, my

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guests today, the purpose of having him on the show

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today was to share with you how, like other shows

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I've had, how musicians juggle. We juggle a work schedule,

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we juggle playing music.

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We juggle.

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Let's say, if we're in a band, we juggle playing

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with musicians and all kind of meeting out a schedule

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that we can all get together and perform at or

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perform together to practice. So with that being said, the

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annoys in the background, I have a kitten who if

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you're watching you might have seen on the show. Here

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she's playing with one of her balls, so one of

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her catballs. So she's making music in the background right now.

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What I want to share with you today is, along

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with everything else, when it comes to music theory, learning

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an instrument, getting together in your community with other musicians,

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learning an instrument, learning how to read music.

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If I.

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Well, I've played my little life, so I don't know

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what it's like not to play an instrument. I don't

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know what it's like not to be around music and

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hear music. But if you're just venturing into this world

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and wanting to learn how to play music, if you're

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already playing music, I think the biggest secret is should

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be patient with yourself. Right, whether we're learning how to bake,

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whether we're learning a different language, whether we're learning anything new,

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a new job, a new whatever, it's it comes down

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to us, our attitude, how we show up. And really,

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if you think about it, everything we do in this

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life is a choice that we make, right, It's a

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choice that we choose to do or we choose to create.

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I'm sorry, it's kind of funny that my little kitten

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is running around with this little ball. I wish you

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could hear. But anyway, you know, be patient with yourself

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because if you think about it, when we're doing the

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things that we do, a lot of things that we

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do is get to it's not that we have to

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I mean, like, yeah, I have cats, have to clean

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the litter box. But I get to clean the litter

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box because I like my house to be clean, right,

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So it's still a choice. I still do it, but

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not everything is having to clean the litter it's you know,

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everything we do is a choice. Your job that you

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choose to do is a choice. The you know, the

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place that you live in, it's a choice. You know,

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you work with what you've got. You you make choices

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with the cards you're dealt and you know, I think

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we're always looking for like the horizon, like what's better,

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what's out there? How can we get better at playing music?

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How can we get better at whatever we're doing in life?

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And really, again, you only have yourself to look at.

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You've made the decisions to be where you're at or

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to do what you're doing, And everything takes practice. Relationships,

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driving a car, working, you know, machinery, whatever it is,

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it all takes practice. And even if you know it well,

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you still want to get better at it. At least

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that's how I am. I always want to outdo myself

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and do better. I want to learn from other people.

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I want to I want to be an influence, but

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I also want to be influenced and I think that's

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the way to be human. I think music there are okay,

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there are basically twelve bays tones on the keyboard if

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you want to break it down, and everything's in vibration.

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And maybe I'm getting a little too technical, but the

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whole idea is that you want to hone into maybe

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connecting with those tones, connecting with the different sounds of

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music and correlation to life and the choices you've made

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or choices I've made. It's really just connecting to what

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we choose and given ourselves a permission to keep moving

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forward and not thinking we always know what we're doing.

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I think the secret is to always kind of be

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the student, even for ourselves, always to want to learn

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more and be better at what we do. And I

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think we get too stuck in thinking of our adults

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or we know it all, and we really don't. There's

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always something more to learn. So going back to music

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theory and music lessons, give yourself permission and give yourself

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the patience to be patient with yourself when you're learning,

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and that goes across the board whatever it is. Well,

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with that being said, I don't know that my guest

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is going to be with us today, however, we do

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have a few more minutes and I would love to

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play for you a little bit more on the piano.

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So sit back, relax, and I'm just channeling this in

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and excuse me. Whatever music you're looking to learn, it

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can be done, so be patient with yourselves, reach out

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the teachers online or in your community. You can also

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find me Lisa Evagold on Facebook. If you have questions,

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you can message.

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Me as.

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As Thanks for tuning in today.

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Please go out support your music community. If you just

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want to go out and listen to live musicians, that

465
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would be awesome. And yeah, support your music venues. And

466
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I don't mean financially, I mean show up, be a support,

467
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show your enthusiasm, get involved and be the best. Be

468
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the best version of yourself always because no matter where

469
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you are, whatever you do, wherever you go, you are important.

470
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You make a difference and give yourself the grace and

471
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the patience you deserve, whether you're learning a new instrument,

472
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learning music, and or supporting others. So with that being said,

473
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let's keep music alive and tune in next week. Really

474
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good to meet my next guest, and I can't wait.

475
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I'm not gonna tell I will post it next week,

476
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and I look forward to seeing you all. Seeing you,

477
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Oh I don't see you, you see me or you

478
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hear me. So I look forward to connecting with you

479
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:29.159
next week. So I have a blessed week, and stay

480
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warm some places. It's getting a little chilly out there.

481
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It is December. Thank you so much,