Jan. 12, 2026

The Sound of Gold with guest The Boondock Sinners

The Sound of Gold with guest The Boondock Sinners
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Season 1

The Sound of Gold with guests The Boondock SinnersTune in to learn more about this dynamic duo band called, The Boondock Sinners! A husband and wife team that is a local traveling band that plays in south florida. Tune in to learn how their musical journey has brought them together an impacts audiences with their music and their positive energy.

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Goals. I'm so happy

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you're here. I am here in my home studio and

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I'm here with my cat, cat who like staplay piano,

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and sometimes I love to do this show, and I

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do it for you because I want you to know

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that there are so there's so much out there in

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our communities that when it comes to music, it's all

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around us. And for us musicians, it's kind of like

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in our veins to always like reach out and seek

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out music venues or to surround ourselves with music, influence,

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music friends.

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For those of you.

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Out there that are wanting to get involved in the community,

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wherever you are calling in or listening in from, I

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promise you there is a venue in your community that

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has maybe an open mic or has a place where

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you can go and listen to live music.

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There's so much talent in our communities that my purpose for.

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Doing this show, it's to shine light on the talent

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that's in our communities because there is so much. And

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I'm so excited to be here with you today because

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I not only love to play piano and love to

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represent my musician. I would say extended family friends, and

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today I would like to invite on my show the

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Boondog Sinners.

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There is Donna.

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And Paul and I know we haven't talked in a while,

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and I'm so excited you made the time to be

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on our show today.

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Are you backstage? Can you join me today? Yes, there

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you are.

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Thank you, Lisa, thank you for having us.

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Absolutely and like I said, thank you for making the

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time to be here. There's so many questions I have

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for both of you. And Donna. We had met years ago.

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I was trying to remember how many years we've known

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each other, and especially enough we share the same birthday,

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which is cool.

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I know, that's very very cool. I'm thinking it was

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maybe five or six years ago.

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Yeah, i'd we met, Yes, Yes, and you've grown so

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much and you do so much in our community and

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You're not only here in Florida, you travel. I guess

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for our audience, because some of our listeners are perhaps

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friends of ours, or some of our listeners are just

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tuning in and maybe are more or less amateurs that

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are wanting to get involved in music. So I'm going

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to ask different questions just to help our listeners learn

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more about us, and then also to for our extended

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family friends and friends who know us. They can kind

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of get a little bit more information about who we

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are and kind of like what's brought us to where

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we are today. So I guess the best question to

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ask is from both of you. I guess you choose

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your starts, whether it's Donna maybe or Paul, Like, where

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did you begin with your journey with music?

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I think both of us started on the younger side.

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I'll let him talk about his journey. I know that

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I was when I was maybe six or seven. My

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dad just had this vision. My dad was into music

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and wanted a family band. So you worked on that,

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and my siblings and I took instrument lessons, and eventually

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we did play together as a band for a really

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long time through high school.

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That's fun.

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So for me, that's that was my start.

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My start was.

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Probably watching Ed Sullivan in nineteen sixty four, like so

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many other people of our generation, some of the Beatles,

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and all of a sudden, I wanted to be a Beatle.

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I wanted to play a guitar. I just wanted to be.

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Involved in music that way too, And so I started

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singing in grammar school pretty early. And it was a

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parochial school. And I ended up doing a lot of

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singing in grammar school, which I liked. It still wasn't

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as fulfilling as being a beatle.

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You had a band in high school?

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Yeah, I had a band in high school, and things

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like that wonderful.

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So you were both influenced, Donna.

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You were influenced by family and then Paul your influence

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from television and Sullivan.

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So both of you had.

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Great inspirations to go by and to live by. And

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I know I mentioned in previous shows as a musician

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for those that are tuning in that are not musicians,

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that are wanting to be musicians, you know, it's a

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passion that we that we drive by, I would say,

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or not drive by, but drive on and thrive on.

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So what Donna, when you played with your family.

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What instrument did you play and did you sing and

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play an instrument?

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Well, when I was young, I took accordion lessons for

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like eight years. I didn't really enjoy I wanted. I

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saw myself more as like a Carol King playing board,

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so accordion didn't quite cut it. But then my dad

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taught me to play the guitar, and so for the

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most part traveling with the family, I played guitar and

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I sang and my mom sang, and so there was

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there was a lot of music going on there. And

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then sometimes I would maybe play the accordion just to

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to keep him happy, But I was really more about

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singing and playing guitar. That was, you know, and you

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know the and the Carly Simon's and Emmy Lou Harris.

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You know, those were the people that you know, really

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drove me to want to be like them.

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Yes, yes, that's wonderful. And Paul, you were in a

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like a high school band. And then what inspired you

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from there?

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Did you just kind of beat off of friends and

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family or.

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Did you have other inspiration on television?

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Well, I think once I had my first guitar, I

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just wanted to kind of keep going musically, and I

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bought my first guitar with newspaper route money from the

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seventh grade. And I was in a band in junior

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high school, which really didn't go anywhere, but it was

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still fun and an eye opening experience.

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In high school it.

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Was a little bit more advanced and the players were

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more advanced, and it was a challenging but fun to

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get people together to make a sound that everybody had

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their little piece together, everybody contributed and it was just

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it just felt fulfilling.

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And they were amazing. I've heard, I've heard you know,

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tapings of things, you know, concerts and things that they

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did very good.

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You know, you get into the music scene, you live

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there for a while, you have fun, you realize maybe

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you're not going to make a living in some cases,

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so you settle down. You get married, you have a family,

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you have kids, and the music is set aside for

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a little while. Sure, whether it's intentional or not, it's

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just the way it works out. And then later in life,

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as things kind of settled down, you said, you know

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what kind of misplaying the guitar, I miss singing. So

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I started back out on a path where as a

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soloist because situation doesn't really allow you to join up

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with a bunch of people that are that have families

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to raise and things like that, Scheduling becomes an issue.

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So solo work was my next step.

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Okay, and so and then I'm going to ask you

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a similar question, don but Paul, going on that, like,

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what was so our listeners get an idea if they're

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wanting to venture out and learn how to or get

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involved with playing in the community, what was it that

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you seem like, what secrets could you share with us

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that helped you to maybe get into venues or connect

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with other musicians.

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You know, I don't really have any great secrets to share.

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When I first started doing this, I was late twenties,

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maybe early thirties, and I would just make myself available.

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I did a lot of coffeehouse stuff back.

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In the eighties, late seventies and eighties, and it was

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easier then.

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It seemed easier.

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There were venues, but not as many musicians that were

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willing to get out there and try. So it's basically,

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you know, swallow your fear, I guess, and put one

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foot in front of the other and go in and

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ask places if they could use a musician. That's really

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and it was. It was nerve wracking, but you walk

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through it anyway and done.

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What about your family? I mean, you had this whole

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the whole group of you. Did you do you remember

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what steps your your family might have taken to connect

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and make it happen that you were playing out different places.

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Well, for us, my first I had done it, and

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then my brother and I because he played he played fiddle.

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We did a local TV show in Boston that was

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pretty well known in the area. It was like a

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it was like an early American idol kind of thing.

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Oh yeah, he actually won the show. And so then

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we started getting phone calls from people who were looking

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to book folks out in We were doing hospitals like

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VA hospitals, nursing homes, we were doing benefits for people

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who's had lost their homes in a fire. So we

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played all around New England and you know, things just

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it was kind of that one foot in front of

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another thing too. We got some exposure and then we

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started getting phone calls, and so we played out a

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lot and I think, honestly it was it was a

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great experience to grow musically and you know, performance wise

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in that kind of way. You know, at that time

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in my life I enjoyed. I had really major stage fright,

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but it was good. I had to push through it

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every time, and so I think, I think it was

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really good. And then later I did some solo work

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sort of probably the same timeframe that Paul was doing it,

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because that was it was easier in some cases to

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secure some gigs. And you know, I think it's what

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there is now that there really wasn't back then, or

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like open mics okay for a great place to take

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your music out, and you know, you obviously have to

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pay your dues. You have to get yourself to the

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point where you're good enough that somebody would want to

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hire you for two to three hours or more of work.

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Sure.

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Sure, And going back to what Paul said, you know

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it's so true. Well, a few things I want to

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comment on. First of all, we can all agree that

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they say that the COVID time like after like the

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post COVID time, so many more musicians like came out

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of that because we were all stuck at home, So

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people got more involved with like being at home and

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just making things happen.

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So I think since then there's like this this garden

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of musicians that we didn't see.

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Before, or maybe we don't think about it because we

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were all kind of zigzagged during that time. And then

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I also wanted to mention, you know, it's so true

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for all of us, like we we all have this

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evolution of being human and having you know, families and

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responsibilities that sometimes our goal for being a musician has

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to be set aside to really focus on priorities. And

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as a musician, it never goes away. It's almost like

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a vein that you get to just practice on and

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sometimes just have to put on hold during you know,

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priority times of families or the things.

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That I mean, family comes first. I mean that's we

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all know that.

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But other than that, you know, Donna, I know you

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you know five six years which we mentioned, and I

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I know, well, I have so many other questions. You

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both met over the past few years, and would you

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like to share that story because you're both musicians, you

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both play.

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How did you meet? How did you How did we

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get to be where we are now?

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We actually met about sixteen years ago through a friend,

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a neighbor, a friend that I grew up with who

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was working, you know with Paul, and through that connection

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we learned that each of us were musicians, and he

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was running an open mic in Salem, mass That was yeah.

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For fourteen years, he was running an open mic. Okay, Salem, Massachusetts.

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And in one of those open mic nights, our mutual

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friend Donna was visiting from Florida to New England, and

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our mutual friend brought her over to the open mic

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that I was hosting, and that was our first face

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to face meeting after being friends a little it on

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Facebook for a while. Okay and so, so, Donna played

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a couple of tunes. She borrowed my guitar, my brand

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new guitar too.

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I didn't have a guitar with me. I had just

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traveled up from Boston, so I was I was traveling

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pretty pretty light, and at the time, I was evaluating

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if I was going to uh, you know. A few

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years later, I actually went back up north for a

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while to help my parents, uh sort of transition from

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their house and all the things. And so I was

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going to some open mics. When I got back into

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town playing with my brother, and he was playing with

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another musician. They were a duo, and we he had

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asked us a couple of times to open my brother

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and I had open for his band, so we had

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kind of started that way, just you know, he played

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with his music partner and I played with my brother,

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and eventually we something happened with the other situation, and

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then he had some gigs and said, well, what if

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we do them together? You know, we can get together

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some rehearsal, we can do, you know, do some concentric

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circles of what music we both already know, and then

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some solo songs. So that's kind of how we started.

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And you know, we're going to put a point on

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that is that it was twelve years ago yesterday that

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we played our first engagement together. That's right at coffee

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House in Lynn, Massachusetts, and that was one of those

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gigs where I played some solo, DOWNA played some solo.

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Most of the show was you know, us playing some

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songs that we had cobbled together from our mutual set list.

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And we noticed and other people noticed that our vocals

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went well together, so people said, you should do more

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songs together. And then it just we had one gig

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after another and it just kind of continued to where

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we're like, I think we have a band here and

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we need to name.

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It, which didn't happen for five months until five months

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after the first gig.

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Sure, but looking back, that five months must have must

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have went by really fast.

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Because we were rehearsing and you know, just we were doing.

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We were still playing, you know, a lot, and.

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We labeled ourselves as Paul Duffy and Donna Landry.

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At the time.

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At the time. Yeah, so yeah. Then then once we

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got the band thing squared away, then you know, we

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were we were up and rolling. Yeah, and then things

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have just continued since then, and you just get better

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as you play more together, you just get better and

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you get better and you almost get to where you

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can kind of predict each other's thoughts and it helps.

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It helps when you're trying to do harmony. We do

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a lot of harmony in our music. It's important to us.

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That's that's what makes our sound maybe a little different

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than some others.

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Now, what kind of music do you play?

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Thank goodness, We we sort of run the gamut. We

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do everything from Everly Brothers and some of the earlier

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you know, Statler Brothers kind of thing too. We do

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Noah Khan, you know, we do some fairly current. But

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I think in general what we like is a lot

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of the classic kind of you know, folk rock stuff

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from seventies, eighties, Crosby Stills, Nash and Young, and you know, I.

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Guess we market ourselves as a classic rocket pop country shod.

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We even have a couple of disco tunes in there.

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We're all over the map. We're hard to categorize. But

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everything we do, pretty much, everything we do has harmony

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and two guitars and our own little spin on it.

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And we work hard. You know, we work hard before

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we put any music out there, before we perform it.

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You know, we've worked on it for quite a while,

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and you know, we have it to where we're off book.

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You know, we're just getting up and we're winging it.

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So we put a lot of time into the song

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before they get out there. And sometimes they make it

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and they're great and they'll be on the setlist forever.

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And sometimes it's like nah, not so much now.

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For our listeners that are just tuning in, our listeners

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that have been tuned in. I want to mention as

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a musician, like you said, you know, practicing together you.

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Get better and better.

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There's really like no end when it comes to music, Like,

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it's not like Okay, here's the recipe, bake the cake. Okay, cakes, ready,

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you can eat it now. Music is like you're we're

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always growing and it's so fascinating. And I absolutely love

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that about music that there's like no end in sight.

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You can always be so creative. You can add to it,

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you can you know, deduct from it. Because once you

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know I tell as a teacher, I tell my students,

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once you know the rules, you kind of know how

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to break them, and you kind of know like what

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you can add and what you what you can improvise,

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and what you can take out a little bit.

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So when you take more chances and more risk, Yeah,

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or you've been doing something, there's like there's like a

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confidence that starts to really build in there and then

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you just you start taking some risks and sometimes it's

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those are very very fun things that come out of that.

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It's true what you said, though, Lisa, like the more

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you learn, the more you learn, the more you're able

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to learn. It's yeah, weird how exponentially it grows once

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you start to play and develop as a musician.

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Yeah, I don't know how else to explain it.

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But you know, I've we've been up on seventy years old,

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and I still feel like I'm learning, and I feel

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like I'm learning at a higher rate than I used to.

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Okay, yeah, that's great, and that's that's what it's all about.

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I mean, I'm always I've.

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Been playing piano for over forty five years and I

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still take lessons. I'm still like hungry to learn, and

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it's like, well, how could I change this? How could

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I change that? Or it's just fun because when you well,

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I'll speak for myself, there's you know, if you're given

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sheet music to learn somebody song or if you played

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vi ear, you know, there's the beginning, the middle of

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the end of the song, but when you get to

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improvise in it, there's like.

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No limit and there's so much freedom. There's so much

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freedom to express.

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And it's just I love I love playing. I encourage

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everybody to play an instrument and to learn.

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Please tell us for our listeners, especially if there's a

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venue that is tuning in, how can they reach out

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to you? And where where are you playing these days?

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The two questions.

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It's pretty easy to reach us if you you know,

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go on your browser and look for the Boondock Sinners.

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We're going to show up with a web page. We're

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going to have a Facebook page, Instagram. You can always

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go to YouTube www dot Boondockcenters dot com.

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If and then there's a contact you know, the phone

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numbers there. Everything you need to contact is in the website.

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So we're pretty easy to find.

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Yeah, and it would give somebody an idea of venue,

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you an idea of where we're at, just by sort

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of looking at what's going on on our website. We

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have some video there of late.

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We are monthly playing at the Gardens Green Market.

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In Palm Beach Gardens. Yes, a Sunday gig.

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It's four hours in the morning and it's a bit

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of a challenge we do. And we are now residencing

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at Harry and the Natives in Hope Sound. We're there

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one Friday month and they've also booked us for a

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breakfast gig. We'd like to hit the brew House Gallery

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from time to time as well in Lake Park. They've

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been a wonderful part of our growth here in Florida.

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Have opportunities to play and to meet people. It's just

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a wonderful place.

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And then in the summer months, like you know, now

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it's to two months in the summer. We book ourselves

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straight out in New England, so we do everything from

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the main Lobster festival and other fairs and there's a

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farm that we play. There are all these places and

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we book up pretty pretty solidly for two months we work.

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That's where we work the most, and then we come

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home and then I'm you know, we're kind of looking

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to take it break. So that's why we don't we

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don't book ourselves flat out solid and while we're home,

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you know, we do enough just to keep ourselves in

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practice and you know, playing playing out. But when we're

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up north, it kind of is hard to breathe sometimes

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because we're we're playing so many, so many gigs over

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over a two month period.

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Now you're in Massachusetts or I don't know, actually.

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Yes, we we we base ourselves out of Massachusetts and

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we play in Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts. We play you know,

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sometimes we drive a good distance to some of the

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gigs that we play. Sometimes we play in western Massachusetts,

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but you know that's that's the time we do that,

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and we also have family in the area, and you know,

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it gives us the opportunity to connect with our family

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for for a while and then we come home.

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That's where we got our start was in eastern Massachusetts,

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and we were well established long before I moved to Florida. Right,

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So most of our early fan base and followers were

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New England, primarily north of Boston North Shore. So it's

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easy to reconnect with those venues when we traveled north.

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It's just pretty easy.

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But we love the growth that we've seen down here

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as well in Florida. Florida's home for us.

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Now, okay, now up north.

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Some of the places that you played and also Donna,

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I remember years ago you played.

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At did you play at the South Florida Fair?

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Yes? Yes, actually we played the Fair a couple of

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years ago. Yeah, But earlier on I did some some

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fair work with MJ Okay.

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So what what were your ways for our listeners of

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making connections to make that happen? Or did you just

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pick up the phone and say we play we want

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to play there?

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I mean, was it that simple?

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You know what?

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In nineteen seventy five, that was how you had to

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do it. You had to pick up the phone or

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you had to go to a venue and meet somebody

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face to face. It's a little easier to make the

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connections now because of the Internet and email, okay, and

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you know and Facebook and all these things.

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You can get messages to people. But I still think

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a person.

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To person contact is your strongest gives you the strongest

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chance to make a connection to play somewhere. And in

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some cases it's word of mouth for us, or you know,

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somebody who knows somebody you can introduce you to a venue,

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or somebody that books for a venue, okay.

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And Paul's kind of taken that role, you know, for

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the most part with the duo, so that we're not

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both at cross purposes. You know, he's generally the person

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who connects, and but ignored it was it was certainly

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easier because we already had established all those inroads and now,

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you know, sometimes people wondering when we're going to be back,

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and so that we can can book into some of

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the places.

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Sure, now, Paul you had mentioned earlier. And it's also

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I will also say I'm sorry today I cut you off.

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Downa no no no you.

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Had mentioned earlier about you know, people have this vision

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of playing full time and making it a full time career. However,

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it's for most of us. It's not that case for

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most of us. Again, I'm going to focus on me.

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It's you know, it's not it's a get to and

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it's not about the money.

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It's about sharing.

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My passion or sharing my passion to play with my

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audience and to have them enjoy the music. However, the

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pay is not necessarily you know, you're concert income. However,

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you do have some some things lined up where it

477
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is more consistent.

478
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:07.319
Not everybody has that.

479
00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.039
I'm kind of asking in a roundabout question to share

480
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.359
with the audience that wants to get into this, and

481
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.839
I'm telling them in a certain way, like you said,

482
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.119
it's you know, you can't go into this thinking it's

483
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.960
going to be your income to start off with right away.

484
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:27.279
We have the benefit of being retired, so you know,

485
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:31.279
we're able to do this as our full time thing.

486
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.720
But I certainly think I can't really speak for you

487
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.039
over time. But at a couple of different points in

488
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.440
my life, I had thought I had decided to ditch

489
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:43.240
the day job and just try to make it with music,

490
00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:47.079
and I found that that changed the whole vibe of

491
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.119
everything I was doing, because now I needed to make

492
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:53.640
X amount of money to pay my bills, and then

493
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.319
it became I would use the term work as opposed

494
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:01.279
to play and enjoy, and all of the times that

495
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:03.400
I did that in my life, I ended up getting

496
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.119
fairly burnt out, and then just you know, went back

497
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.519
to doing the day job, and then eventually kind of

498
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:13.000
got back into doing the music. I don't know if

499
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:14.839
you ever even tried.

500
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.680
That or were smarter than not necessarily say that I

501
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.880
was smarter, but I didn't have the same aspirations, and

502
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.440
I didn't think that I was good enough for one thing,

503
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.240
to be a professional musician, and I didn't have frankly,

504
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.599
I didn't have the drive the people that I see

505
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:36.000
succeeding and who are full time musicians, they're talented, they

506
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:39.359
have drive, and they have personality that can get them

507
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:43.839
in the door too. But I was content, like you said, Lisa,

508
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.119
to share my music with others. And I like to

509
00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.799
see smiling faces in a venue or people who are

510
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.519
singing along to whatever we're doing, tapping their feet. I mean,

511
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.759
our passion is to just perform live music.

512
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.079
In front of people. We don't really even record much.

513
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:00.920
We like to play out.

514
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:03.759
Sure, and donnad what you said.

515
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.160
You know, it's so true because I think for all

516
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.200
of us, whether you're a musician or you're doing something

517
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:14.960
else in life, that how did I see this? Okay,

518
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:20.880
focusing on just the music, it's yeah, going into it,

519
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:23.400
like you said, like quitting the job and just jumping

520
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:25.559
in and making it a full time.

521
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:29.559
Yeah, you can get burnt out.

522
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.440
You can take some of the pleasure away because now

523
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:35.880
you're focused too much on how much you have to

524
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.839
play and how much money you need to make per

525
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.359
we you know, it starts to become a you know

526
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:47.720
work I guess, and a frustrating type because it's the

527
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.640
nature of the business. The places that you play will

528
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.680
go out of business, or maybe they change their minds

529
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.920
about what they want for music. They're just gonna, you know,

530
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:02.119
do a jukebox or a DJ or you know. So

531
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:04.160
I think if you don't.

532
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:04.680
Have that.

533
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.319
Need to make a certain amount of money, then you

534
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.880
can just have a good time with it. You know.

535
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.160
You can the gigs that you get, you can be

536
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.000
happy about them, but you're not feeling like it's going

537
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.000
to pay the rent or not pay the rent.

538
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:21.839
Right, because then it kind of takes the joy out

539
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:22.759
of it.

540
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.160
It did for me. You know, maybe not for everyone,

541
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.240
but it certainly did for me.

542
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.119
Not that this is about me, however, I want to

543
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.240
remark on what you're saying. I don't know if you know,

544
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.400
but some of my friends know. I'm also a hairdresser.

545
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:41.319
So for many years I was teaching playing doing the hairdresser.

546
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.160
And then a couple of years ago, I promised myself,

547
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.799
you know what, I just want to do music. I

548
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:51.039
want to focus. However, I knew that I didn't have

549
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.559
to wonder if I was going to, you know, if

550
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:56.160
I was going to get that gig or not get

551
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.480
that gig, or have that other income, because I had

552
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.839
kind of like a waiting less of students that wanted

553
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.559
to sign up. And I'm making that a mention because

554
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.160
for listeners out there that just want to jump in,

555
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.119
quit their job and do music, it's really healthy to

556
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.039
line yourself up with knowing what you've got coming in

557
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.759
because all of us, you know, we we have to

558
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.440
go to the grocery store to get food, We've got

559
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:20.880
to put gas in our car, we have to pay

560
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.240
the rent or pay the mortgage. So you want to

561
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.720
have that that ground to stand on and know that

562
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:30.880
you have that that financial coming in and not to

563
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:35.119
let your joys of playing or being a musician or

564
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.720
wanting to be you know, the next Billy.

565
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.480
Joel or Elon John. You know you you want to

566
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.599
know that you have the backing for that or the

567
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:45.400
ground for it.

568
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.839
So, like you said, just making a point, because yeah,

569
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.920
I agree with you, it can become Anything we love

570
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.480
to do can become a burden if we depend on

571
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:57.079
it for life survival.

572
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:58.079
It's true.

573
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.960
I'll have to say that I've never enjoyed playing music

574
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.319
more than I do now we have this thing. It's

575
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:09.839
been going twelve years. Neither of us is working anymore,

576
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.839
retired four years ago and a half years ago, and

577
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.000
we get to do this for both for fun and

578
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:18.160
for some extra money.

579
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.799
And it takes a lot of the pressure.

580
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.960
Off knowing that we're just doing it for the enjoyment

581
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.119
and not for uh, not depending on it for income.

582
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.200
Sure, the money is great, you know, it's nice to

583
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.839
when you're on a fixed income, it's really nice to

584
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:35.079
be able to have you know, the kind of you know,

585
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:37.960
some other money coming in that you can just do

586
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.000
a little bit more than just the basics. So so

587
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.839
it does work that way for us too, But we know,

588
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.880
like U said, there's that other you know, the other

589
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.079
money coming in. That's that we worked hard to get

590
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.160
retirement accounts and all of that. So now we can

591
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.599
read the benefit of that. And then also because we're

592
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.880
just we're grateful and lucky that we can continue to

593
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.519
do what we're doing at the level that we're doing it.

594
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:10.319
And when you when you were working, you were still playing. However,

595
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.279
probably I'm I guessing not not as much, but sure,

596
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.960
because you have to live life.

597
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.680
Right, just safe to say, yeah, and I would end

598
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:25.000
up traveling for work on the calendar was certainly more

599
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:30.240
critical back then as far as availability, but now it's

600
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.720
not a factor really, it's it's how much we want

601
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:34.400
and it's a good position to be in.

602
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:40.119
That's beautiful, that's beautiful, but you know not but you've

603
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.039
worked to be where you are now. I always say that,

604
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.759
like when you've when wherever you are in life, whether

605
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.240
for our listeners, both of you, myself, like we work

606
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:52.559
to get to where we are.

607
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.799
It's not just like we were born this morning and

608
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:56.680
and you know.

609
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.359
We're here in this space and place, like it's taken

610
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:04.079
work to get here and even practicing. I always mentioned

611
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.400
him to the audience, is that being a musician, it's

612
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.559
not like taking out the trash, but it's it's practice.

613
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:12.279
You have to put in the time, you have to

614
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.279
put in the energy, you have to put in the

615
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:19.319
dedication and the focus to be disciplined, to practice, to get.

616
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.920
Better, to learn more, to share more.

617
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.960
And it has to be ongoing because even once you've

618
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.640
got to a certain level, you can start to lose

619
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:31.240
it if you're not, you know, keeping up and practicing,

620
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.960
even with some of the things you've already done. We

621
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.000
have a few guitars on the wall back here, and

622
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:40.079
every day he'll pick up one of the guitars and

623
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.359
he'll just run through some instrumental things, and you know,

624
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.880
sometimes we'll work on it together, but sometimes he needs

625
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.119
the time to work on the fills and all the

626
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.960
things that he has to do to make a song work.

627
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.400
And I know how dedicated he is. I see I

628
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.559
watch him, so you know it is it's definitely if

629
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:03.359
you want to become a good player and you want

630
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.359
to stay there, it is that commitment, yes, And if

631
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.559
you love doing it, then it doesn't feel as much

632
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:12.599
like a commitment. It just feels like you're doing something

633
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.119
you love and it's and.

634
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.199
The more you do it, like we said earlier, the

635
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.679
more you do it, the more the more attached. At

636
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.119
least I feel it this way. The more attached I am,

637
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:24.760
the more I want to grow, the more I want

638
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.119
to learn, because I find I end up surprising myself

639
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.800
at what I can play. Because we're playing an instrument.

640
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.199
I mean, without us physically touching the instrument, the instrument

641
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.000
does nothing. So it's like we are the magicians and

642
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.519
the musicians that bring the instrument alive.

643
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.880
So it's it's all about the energy you put into it.

644
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.760
Sometimes it's awesome to just hear what comes of your

645
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.639
music or you know, for us, it's like sometimes we'll

646
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:56.000
do songs and we'll get goosebumps because we're so amazed

647
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:59.719
at how well it's coming out. And it's fun for

648
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:01.400
us too for that to happen.

649
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.159
Now, where where did you come up with the name Boondocks?

650
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:06.800
And uh yeah, Boondocks.

651
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.880
Well, when we decided that the band had enough legs

652
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.760
that we were going to keep continuing to play engagements together,

653
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.400
we've decided we needed a name. So we yanked together

654
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.280
a list of about eighty names on a piece of

655
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.920
paper and then just kept checking them off one by one, said,

656
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:29.760
somebody's already got that, somebody's already got this, got that name.

657
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.760
Can tell it the meaning of the name. You came

658
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:32.480
up with that name.

659
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.760
So it was a takeoff on a Boston crime movie

660
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:40.320
called the Boondocks Saints Oh Wow the mid eighties was

661
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.679
Willem Dafoe, and regionally in New England it played well,

662
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.199
so said we're not We're not going to be Saints,

663
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.239
we can be the Boondock Sinners. So that was early,

664
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.800
early on the list, but it was the last one

665
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.400
to stay on the list. They'll have to be crossed

666
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:57.239
them all off. And the other thing was that nobody

667
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:01.880
else had Boondock Centers dot com as a domain name,

668
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.480
so that kind of said something right there.

669
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.480
We were trying to be aware, you know, because there

670
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:11.639
you know, there are other people that even if you

671
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:13.440
don't know who they are, there are other bands that

672
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.519
may have the same name, and so we kind of

673
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.280
wanted to make sure there wasn't a lot of the

674
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.400
same name out there, just just trying to do our

675
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.239
due diligence. But it was definitely his idea and it

676
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:26.920
was after the a takeoff on the Boston crime based

677
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.079
movie in the mid eighties called The Boondock Saints.

678
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:35.599
She puts up with a lot of my ideas, say that.

679
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.159
That's great, that's great, I love it, So please share

680
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:37.920
with our audience.

681
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.639
Again, how how does someone reach out to connect with

682
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.360
you or even to listen to your music?

683
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:48.000
Probably just looking at our website Boondockcenters dot com. And

684
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:51.000
we have everything attached to that, so there's all the

685
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.840
information you need on the website. And also there are

686
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.239
buttons that will take you off to our Facebook.

687
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:59.360
Page or our Instagram YouTube, all from the homepage.

688
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.760
And once you canted, then you know, Paul's very good

689
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:07.159
at putting events out there on Facebook, and our website

690
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:11.280
is always up to date, and whatever the gig list

691
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.679
is at the moment, usually in very short order. If

692
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.480
we have an addition to it, we put it. I

693
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:20.320
have it on the website. But between those, you know.

694
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.679
Here's a recommendation. If you're not a solo musician and

695
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.960
you're working with others, try to split the workload. So

696
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.920
Donna takes care of the website and Instagram for the

697
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.440
most part. I handle Facebook and YouTube, but it's you know,

698
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:35.519
it's a leveling.

699
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:35.719
Of the load.

700
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.639
If you're trying to do it all by yourself, you're

701
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.599
going to end up frustrated, I think, because it's a lot.

702
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:43.079
It's a lot more than you think it.

703
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.880
Is, and you need these things now. You need electronic presence,

704
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.760
you need you know, what they call the ePK, which

705
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.920
your website can do. It's you know, electronic press kit,

706
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.519
and people will ask for that. And there are some

707
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.440
places that we have come to play where, you know,

708
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.559
another band, it wouldn't be the that we were really

709
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.480
any better than they were, but we had that kind

710
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.599
of information that they wanted because I think a lot

711
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.840
of these festivals and you know, they don't really have

712
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.559
the time to get involved and go see you somewhere

713
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.360
they want they want it all. Just just send me

714
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.119
all of your stuff and we'll decide, and it gives

715
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:24.920
you legitimacy and professionalism. So that's that's generally how these

716
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:26.320
things have come through for us.

717
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:27.199
Awesome.

718
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:27.880
Awesome.

719
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.920
So one of a couple other questions before we finish up.

720
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:37.159
Today, you play classic rock, do you depending on the

721
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.039
venue do you have do you kind of just feed

722
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:42.239
off of the audience or do you have like a

723
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set list that you go into.

724
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.480
That's a good question. That's a very good question. And

725
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.000
we have we have a set list. We have like

726
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.519
over four hours of music that we could do at

727
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:59.000
any given point. Some songs come and go, but we've

728
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:04.280
got a good, solid four hours. But we absolutely we'll

729
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.079
feed from the audience. You know, we start to get

730
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.159
a sense of the songs they're responding to, and then

731
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.039
we we automatically just kind of seem to know that.

732
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We look at each other and say, all right, let's

733
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.400
keep doing those. So if they're liking all the old

734
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:24.159
Simon and Garfunkle and you know, Prize Mihistles and Nash

735
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.480
and you know, then we will continue to do those.

736
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.199
So we are fortunate enough that we have enough music

737
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.159
that we could continue in a vein that people seem

738
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.480
to be enjoying. And if it's like a crowd that

739
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.079
really likes country, then we'll start focusing all of those

740
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:43.039
of those songs so to the best that we're able.

741
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.800
We generally have a we start somewhere and then we

742
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:51.719
see how everybody is responding, and then we gear the

743
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:52.719
night to that.

744
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.599
So we generally have in front of us all we

745
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.960
have electronically is a phone with a set list on it,

746
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.440
and we can pick in that set list, there's easily

747
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.159
four hours worth of material, maybe more. But I know

748
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.840
that we have done four hour gigs on the regular

749
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:11.559
without looking at an iPad or without looking at music.

750
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:13.719
But we have this whole list, and if we see,

751
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.719
like Donna said, if it's a younger crowd, we might

752
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.920
play more contemporary stuff. If it's an older crowd, it's

753
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.800
going to be the Beatles and Bad Finger, or if

754
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:24.239
it's a country crowd, you know we're.

755
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.000
Going to pick those out of the list. But the

756
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:27.400
list is always there to help us.

757
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.199
And sometimes we'll even have somebody come up and if

758
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.239
we've done like an Everly Brothers tune and they're like,

759
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.199
we never hear that, thank you so much for playing that,

760
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.800
Then that kind of gives us a sense it's like, okay,

761
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:42.599
let's let's do all the songs we know that person

762
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:48.000
and those folks are going to like. So it's kind

763
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.000
of fun in that way too, that you can customize

764
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.880
and kind of and try to read the crowd. And

765
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.639
if it's a balladi crowd, if it's a restaurant and

766
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.800
they just want background music, we can do that. If

767
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.480
it's someplace that people really want to be getting up

768
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:06.000
and you know, moving around, we can do that.

769
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:10.079
See big festival with professional sound. We generally go with

770
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.239
a fixed set list. Yeah, okay, we're not reading a

771
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.920
crowd there. We're just we maybe have an hour or

772
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.599
a ninety minute show and we've we've got a fixed

773
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:19.960
set list that we'll work from.

774
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Yeah, you need to.

775
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:23.639
Give a shout out to somebody up north that plays

776
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:24.719
with us from time to time.

777
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:25.800
We have a place there.

778
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Occasionally joined the band and that's so much fun. His

779
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:33.199
name is Peter Caravo. He's a singer songwriter out of Maine.

780
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:36.119
He's an award winning songwriter and I think he likes

781
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.039
to change it up every now and then and play

782
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:38.880
bass with us.

783
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.920
Well, he was in his high school band, was a

784
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.599
bass player man, he was the bass player. So we

785
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:47.800
sort of reconnected with him in.

786
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:49.920
Twenty twenty one or so and he's.

787
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.079
Been playing with us like at the Northern at our

788
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.000
Northern venues and that's that's been a lot of fun too.

789
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:58.960
So if you go out to Peter, shout out to

790
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:03.000
Peter Caravo. He's so if you see our YouTube page.

791
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:06.360
You'll see times where there's others collaborating with us and

792
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:10.199
it looks like a full band. Okay, well, we totally

793
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:14.320
totally enjoy having other musicians with us. The Boondog Centers

794
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.000
basically is.

795
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.920
Are the duo. Yeah, because we need to be able

796
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.840
to not rely on others, because it's not like people

797
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:26.400
can always make whatever gigs that you know that we choose,

798
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.440
so we start with that and then anything else is

799
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:31.840
just is gravy.

800
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:32.320
Yeah.

801
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.039
Yeah, it sounds like a lot of fun, it really does.

802
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:36.840
It is.

803
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:41.199
Now, when you're practicing just the two of you, do

804
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:46.320
you have favorites that Okay, we'll ask it the long way.

805
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.800
When I sit down in and I practice, I practice

806
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.400
certain things, but every now and again I just want

807
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.800
to pull out old stuff and just play and just

808
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:58.400
like kind of escape life. And so do you have

809
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.840
a favorite that you love to play.

810
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.519
Or you just whatever the day brings?

811
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:09.840
We always say that are in general, the majority of

812
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.440
our rehearsals are with new material. Okay, wow, Once we

813
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.480
have some of the other material down, we don't generally

814
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.559
go over it unless he's working the instrumental kind of thing.

815
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.239
We're always working on new material, always so we always

816
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.039
have four or five, maybe six songs that we are

817
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.800
working on, and we we really need the time to

818
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:36.320
focus on those, and then usually a few of them

819
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.920
rise to the top and then we're able to really

820
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.880
pull those off. And but that's always kind of what

821
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.920
we're rehearsing is the new things that we're working on,

822
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.079
or on occasion, if there are a few songs on

823
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:53.119
the list that haven't been played for a while for

824
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.400
whatever reason, they haven't been played in a few three

825
00:43:56.679 --> 00:44:00.159
four months, then like even today.

826
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.840
We did that just you refresh them a little bit.

827
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:04.519
I said, let's go back and look at those again,

828
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.760
because we haven't played them in maybe three four months.

829
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:11.239
And you know, if somebody were to ask for those songs,

830
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:14.280
or if we happen to need them, because maybe the

831
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.559
audience was that type that those were songs we knew

832
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.840
they would like. So so sometimes we have to go

833
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.559
back to the older things and play them. But the

834
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.199
majority of the time we're working.

835
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:27.719
On new material and new material and somebody asks us

836
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.440
what our favorite song is, we tell them whatever it

837
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.239
is we're working on now, what it is.

838
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:37.159
It becomes literally our favorite thing, our favorite song for

839
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:38.880
a while until and.

840
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:40.440
How often do you practice.

841
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:44.800
I mean, we understand you're at the phase where you're

842
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:47.039
retired and so you get to kind of make your

843
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:52.400
own schedule. However, you know, we don't for our listeners,

844
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.519
a lot of us don't know what it takes as

845
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:56.400
far as practice.

846
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:57.199
How much.

847
00:44:58.480 --> 00:44:58.840
Together?

848
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:03.280
We practice about three or four times a week together.

849
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:06.840
I'm apt to pick up a guitar five or six

850
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.039
times a week just so I can work out fills

851
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:15.719
or basslines or arrangements. Right, Yeah, but we always have

852
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.760
time together to work on new material together, probably three

853
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.559
or four times a week. Sometimes it's a half an hour,

854
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.039
sometimes it's three hours. It depends upon what we might

855
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.840
have going on, right.

856
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.800
And it's nice that because we have guitars just available

857
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.519
and we're living together, you know we're together. It's like

858
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.400
it just you can just pick up a guitar. There's

859
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:42.679
no having to schedule. Like band members don't live together,

860
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.519
you have to sort of schedule with them. When can

861
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.079
we get together, When can we do a rehearsal. So

862
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:51.440
we have the advantage that sometimes maybe we'll only rehearse

863
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.800
for ten minutes. We'll just run through a song or two.

864
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:57.719
A busy day and the other times it's like, all right,

865
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.639
let's seriously hit all these songs that we're trying to

866
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:07.760
get from this place to our list. Nice even you know,

867
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.599
we're the people that are even when we're driving somewhere,

868
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:14.639
we have a list on Spotify and it's called you know,

869
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.760
those songs we're working on, and we do a pool

870
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.440
work out in the morning, we drive different places. We

871
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.280
have that list on loop. So there will be like

872
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:30.119
maybe ten to twelve songs on that list, and we'll

873
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.960
listening to them just so when we're not playing guitar,

874
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.880
we can really get some phrasing and get some of

875
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.599
the subtleties. Like sometimes we'll be listening when we're in

876
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:42.920
the pool and we say, oh, did you hear Okay,

877
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.960
they do this right here, or there's a vocal that

878
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:49.079
comes in. This is a cool little harmony right here.

879
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:53.599
And then we'll come back and work on it and

880
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:56.039
try it. Songs.

881
00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:00.199
Driving in the car from New England to Florida, you

882
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.320
pick us. We hear a song that we like so much,

883
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:04.519
we just play it over and over and the next

884
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.599
thing you know, we've got the lyrics memorized, we've got harmonies,

885
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:09.639
and I can hear the chords in my head.

886
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.199
We'll arrange that when we get home.

887
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:12.119
Yeah, I love it.

888
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:12.639
I love it.

889
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.320
Well, Thank you so much the both of you for

890
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:19.880
being on the show today. The Boondock Centers and you

891
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:23.559
can find them in Florida here in South Florida, and

892
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:27.360
you can find them in Massachusetts. And please share with

893
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:31.199
us in closing the website that they can find you at.

894
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.000
It's www dot Boondockcenters dot com.

895
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.360
Well, thank you so much, Donna and Paul and I

896
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:37.960
look forward to.

897
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.440
Seeing you soon for having us. We appreciate it absolutely

898
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.880
so much. Yes, thank you so much for tuning in today.

899
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:50.079
Paul and Donna are a wonderful duo, a wonderful couple,

900
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.719
and wonderful people. And I always love being inspired by

901
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:56.119
my musician friends.

902
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:57.559
Thank you for tuning in

903
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.039
Today and tune in next week to help me keep

904
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.360
music alive and find out who my guest is next

905
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week