Jan. 5, 2026

The Sound of Gold with guest Jazz pianist Steve Sanders

The Sound of Gold with guest Jazz pianist Steve Sanders
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Season 1

Join us for an amazing look into the musical life of a Jazz pianist, Steve Sanders. He shares his musical journey that has brought him to the present time , where he teaches online jazz piano classes. And he continues to perform at places like Makena Island and more.

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Gold. I'm so glad

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that you're here with us today, and if you are

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here with us, lived that you are here, and if

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you are watching this recorded, I'm excited that you are listening.

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I am here in my home studio with my cat Calli.

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Here some of you who know of my music and

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know of my playing. A few years ago I started

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doing online shows and the title of my show was

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Lisa Evagold with kat Calli. And so she's here with

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us again. She's the grandma of my cats, and sometimes

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she likes to play too. Well. We are in the

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new year. Happy New Year, everyone, and I'm so happy

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that I get to do this for you and for me.

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I'm a music teacher, piano teacher in Palm Beach Gardens,

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Florida as well as a radio show host. And I

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love to play, I love to teach, I love to

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host the show, and the real purpose of my hosting

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the show is to shine light on the talent that

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is in our communities, not only the talent of our musicians,

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but the talent of our teachers. And we also want

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to bring attention to music venues, music schools. And my

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secret passion to all this, and I guess it's not

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a secret, is that I just want to keep music alive.

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We as musicians, we play from our heart, We play

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from the zone. We play because it's a passion we

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love to share, and you know, it's reciprocal because our

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audiences love to listen to music. We as musicians love

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to listen to music, and those of us that play.

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I'll speak for myself. I feel like I'm giving back

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to the to the world when I share my music,

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and I think all musicians could agree with that, but

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I can only speak for myself. With that being said,

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some of actually all of the music I write and

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I play is original pieces, and I play mostly kind

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ofational music that is channeled in from what I feel

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energy I pick up in the room, energy from other people,

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energy from maybe the environment or even the piano that

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I play. So it's really special for me when I

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get the opportunity to play. And there are so many

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different styles of playing, one style that I don't play

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too much as and I have to apologize. I have

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a cat that's trying to get into a cabinet, So

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if you hear some banging, I don't know what they're

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looking for. But I'm not going to interrupt the show

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because I have your attention and I'm on fire here

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and I just want to keep going. So we're gonna

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ignore my cat and we're going to go back to

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the piano. So when I play piano, I kind of

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just play, like I said, what I channel in and

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I don't have any rhyme or reason other than what

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I feel. There is a style of piano that I

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find myself not playing enough, and that kind of piano.

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Jazz jazz is so beautiful and it is a form

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of music that is improvised, and I'm so excited to

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vite guest mister.

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Steve Samdner, and he is a jazz teacher that I've

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met online. And there are so many great opportunities to

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work with him to learn jazz. It's actually on my

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list of to do and for my listeners out there

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that are interested in learning jazz, let me introduce you

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to mister Steve Sandner. Are you backstage, Steve? Hello, Hello,

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how are you? Thank you so much for joining us today.

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Thank you, Lisa, Thank you for having me.

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No, no, I'm here hosting in Florida. I know you

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said you are in Michigan, and our listeners, depending on

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where they're tuning in from, whether it be another state,

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another country. I've said in past shows, no matter where

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you are in the world, in your community, in their community, there's.

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Always a musical niche of, let's say, open mics or

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venues or schools, music schools that students can connect with.

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Although a lot of us work and we have full

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time a part time schedules, and we find it easier

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sometimes to take a class online or be able to

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do that easier on the side, when it's like at

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home and maybe you know, ten o'clock at night, you

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just get on the piano or or an instrument and

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get online to connect your feature. There's so much I

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know about you, but there's so much I do not

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know about you. So please share with us kind of

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like your background and the jazz. You're all that jazz.

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I should say, well, I grew up with piano because

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my dad was a piano player. In fact, before he

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got married, he was a full time piano player. And

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then when he married my mom, my mom didn't think

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that was a dignified profession for a married man, so

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he ended up playing piano part time. He almost never

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missed playing on a Friday Saturday night. And I saw

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this enthusiasm and I thought, wow, that looks like a

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great thing to do. So he started teaching me, and

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I kept playing eventually found my way into playing jazz.

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Now, did you start off as a classical pianist?

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I did. I studied classical piano from a young age,

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and when I was in college I major I didn't

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major in piano, actually I majored in trumpet, but I

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took classical piano lessons and learned some of the classical

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repertoire in college. But then I soon morphed into playing

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jazz after that.

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Okay, what seemed to be one of the biggest other

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than your dad being a player, And you've seen that

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passion and you wanted to kind of grow that more

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in your life. What really inspired you to take that

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route to go jazz music opposed to opposed to but

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it's different than classical, So what drew you to that?

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Well, it is my dad played a little bit of classical,

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but he was He liked to improvise too, and he could.

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He had a good ear. He could play a song

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by ear, usually after hearing it on the radio. And

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I saw him sing that and I thought, well, I

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can do that too, maybe. So when I I was

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lucky to have teachers in my high school band director,

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for instance, Bill Laski had played professional jazz performance before

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he became a band director, so he was very helpful

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in inducing me and others to the world of jazz,

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which I loved.

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So with that, I know, you teach and then you

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also perform.

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Right, Yeah, I am. I have a program called Out

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of the Piano and it's a mastermind group. We meet

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on Zoom twice a week and it's open to people

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who have some experience on jazz piano who want to

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improve their jazz piano skills and it's very nurturing group

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and a very positive group of us who get together

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to help each other and I helped direct them through

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the through the methodology, and through the course structure into

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learning jazz pieces, little ear training, and other means of

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learning jazz improvisation.

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Now I know I.

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Watched a little bit of one of your introductions or webinar.

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I have to watch the webinar again. I meant to

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watch it again this morning, but didn't get a chance to.

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I have seen it before. It's been a while.

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But you have three secrets, right, Well, it's learning learning

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how to what why. Jazz pianists have trouble learning to

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improvise when they're starting, and sometimes if you're a classical player,

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you don't really know how to start improvising. So I

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don't want to divulge completely the secret. But if you're

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playing a song like, well, do you know the song

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blue Moon?

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I do? I don't know. I would need I don't

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know how to play it without the sheet music too.

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Sometimes you'll see kids or sometimes even adults chomping away

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at the at the left had boom blue Moon, you

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saw me standing alone without a dream in my heart.

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That's the melody. And if you follow the melody, and

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if you learn the melody, you can use that as

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a guide for your improvisation. That's one of the little

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secrets you can and you can take little tiny variations

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at first, and then you keep expanding and expanding and

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expanding op the melody until you have improvisations that sound

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good as you practice doing it.

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So more or less, it's from what I'm understanding, and

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I teach piano. That's the only instrument I teach. However,

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I do focus on reading, but I also want to

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make it known to every single student of mine that

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ear training is so important. So we kind of derail

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from the note reading to the listening. But it's so

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it's such a different part of the brain. Can you

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share anything or any information on that topic or is

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that something you don't come.

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On my brain? Well, sometimes you can overthink it. I

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know once when you learn the theory, and jazz theory

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is slightly different from classical music theory. There's, of course

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there's a lot of similarities, but in jazz theory, you're

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learning you go from three note chords to four note chords,

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and then you add other notes to the five or

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six note chords, and you're dealing with ninth and flat

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and ninth and augmented elevens. But it sounds complicated, but

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once you actually see it and hear it, you kind

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of begin to understand it. And if you know the chords,

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you can you can help use that as a helpful

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guide in your improvisations. But you can start before that

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by just following the melody as a guide and then

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creating very simple picks that will go along with the harmonies.

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So, for our music listeners out there that are familiar

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with chords and are familiar with reading chord charts, is

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that more or less what you kind of work with

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a chord chart?

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Well, there's a thing called a lead sheet. A lead

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sheet of those who don't know, is it's not like

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a sheet music where both right hand and left hand

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are written out with all the notes. Ality only has

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the melody of the song, and then it has chord

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symbols written above the melody. That it's which is a

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learning process to know the chord symbols. But once you

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know the chord symbols, you're able to formulate your own

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chord voicings. And a voicing is how you place the

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notes of the chord under your fingers, and you can

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start with very simple voicings and then progress from there.

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There is a step by step process that I have

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within my group that we use to learn songs, and

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we start with simpler songs and then you can graduate

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to more complex songs like Colonious Monk or something like that.

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Colonious Monk is definitely one of my favorites. But yeah,

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it's a little bit that it goes into a little

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bit more are deeper. So I don't I don't want you.

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I want you to feel comfortable in sharing what you'd

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like to share with us and with with teaching with

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your program, Like I'm I have a class I take

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and it's like a monthly fee for the year. So

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is your online program Is it like a set goal

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like in six months and a year? Is there like

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a program within a time space that you have it

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limited or extended for?

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Well, everybody wants to get results and they're playing and

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everybody has their own goals. Mostly the goals of people

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in my group are when they want to learn songs

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and then they want to improve that by learning the

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songs in a better way and improving their rhythm, improving

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their harmonies and voicings, and it takes practice. There's that's

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one thing that is stressed by any genre of music

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is you need to put in the practice time every day,

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and it doesn't it doesn't come without practice. Let's put

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it that way.

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Sure, Now, well I don't You probably don't know, and

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I don't know that the listeners know, and maybe they

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have because maybe I've said it before. I started playing

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when I was five. I started as a classical pianist,

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and I took years and years of lessons, and then

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I rebelled when I was a teenager and then eventually

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went back to playing, and I did. I really did

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not have a musical inspiration in my family, so I

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kind of just went on a whim of my parents

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wanted me to play, and that was kind of the

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reason why I took lessons and why I played. I'm

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thankful for today. I can't say I loved practicing growing up,

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but I love practicing now because it's a different understanding.

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And I do try and teach this as well, how

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to practice right, because we're not taught how to practic

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is we're taught how to learn the instrument and how

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to learn how to read. But then you're like, okay,

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go home and learn it. So learning how to practice

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is a big deal for me to express when I

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work with my students. With that being said, my question

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for you is you've both you and I we didn't

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start out where we are today, okay, and you have

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so much more experience than I do. And you know,

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I'm privileged to have you on my show today. My

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questions are, you know when you first began learning, and

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you did mention a little something here and there earlier,

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but when you started learning and when you were taking practice,

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when you were practicing, when you were climbing the ladder

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to where you are now, what was it that helped

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you motivate you to continue going?

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Well, that's a that's a good question. I think it

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was listening to great music and listening to the great

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jazz pianists. And I did that from a young age.

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My dad had the old seventy eight records the great

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pianists like Art Tatum. You listen to ar Tatum, you go,

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that can't be possible that that's only one person playing

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this piece. And he'd also had classical music. And you

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listen to this great music and you wonder what it's

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like sharing this being able to play it yourself and

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sharing your performance with other people. Maybe a little bit

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of an ego thing, but you want to you know,

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you want to be able to How can I possibly

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learn how to do that? And then you realize that,

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you know, it takes take some practice. And then, for instance,

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when I was in second and third grade that at

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our particular school, they had this old, upright piano. They

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would roll from room to room, and I was always

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eager to share my song, that latest song that i'd learned,

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my little simple song with the class and show off

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a little bit. You get once you hear the response,

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you know, there's there's nothing like it.

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That's true. That's true.

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You probably did that too, right, you played for your

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school class?

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No, because and this is silly, well maybe not so silly.

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I growing up, I remember I had five different piano teachers,

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and most of them quit on me, except for the

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last one. She got sick, not because of me, but

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I remember specifically taking lessons and I wanted to just

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play and improvise and do my own thing, and the

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teachers would get so frustrated with me. They're like, no,

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you have to learn the foundations, you have to learn

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the classicals, because that's what came before us. That's what

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started us all out. So being a child, I just

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didn't like that answer. So but but I do understand

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it now, I do understand what that feeling is like. There,

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I have another question for you, and this is something

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I forget to ask a lot of times in my show.

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I know, but I know my listeners, not all of them. Now,

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will you share with us a little bit of your

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experience with how you get out there and get gigs?

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You know, you've learned what you've learned. You know what

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you know, and you have the opportunity to be on

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stage and to show off, as we call it, but

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not really. We're doing what we love, so it's not

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it's a pleasurable show off, I think to say, But

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you know, what are some of your secrets of getting

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gigs like you play on Macana Island and other places.

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Well, that's another very good question, because that is key,

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isn't it. I want to get gigs. You want to

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get gigs there maybe to make a little money was

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always good, but you also you want the audience response.

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I remember one of my first gigs was I think

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I was in high school, maybe fourteen fifteen years old,

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and one of the older guys in schools. Hey, they're

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having a black party. Why don't we go down there

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and play some music? And I go and we didn't

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even think about getting paid. But we had a little hat,

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literally a hat sitting there and we played music. I

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don't know how good we sounded, but the people were

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accepting of us. They went with it, and we must

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have been somewhat entertaining. I think we made fifteen dollars

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a piece, okay with that black party. That seemed like

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a huge amount. So, and then sometimes you create your

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own gigs to play, like open mic nights. If you're

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going to go to an open mic night, people will

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hear you play and they'll say, hey, my i've you know,

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you play piano and I play violin or I play saxophone.

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Why don't we try to get a gig over at

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such and such a place and you just keep trying.

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I love that, and I've mentioned in previous shows open

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mic venues is such a warm, welcoming community of people

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and music for friends that become lifetime friends because you're

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just there to support each other and inspire each other. Right,

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I don't think it matters what state you're in or

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what country you're in it's we have that. Well, I

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don't know about every country, but I can speak for

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the United States. We're here, so I know various people

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in various states have the opportunity for that, right.

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I think it's a good way to get exposed. And

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even if you just know one or two songs, you

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can go to an open mic night and get practice.

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Inform me, yes would happen.

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And you never know who's in the audience. You never

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know who you're going to meet, and you never know

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if there's you know, somebody having a party that might

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invite you to play, or different venues. Now you play

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on Macina Island. Is that something that you just fell into?

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Is that something that you you strive to get there?

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Or asking the right question?

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Well, yeah, that's another interesting question. When I first started out,

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I was in I got my first real gig that

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was substantial. I was in my early twenties and I

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went through an agent and he was happy with the

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work I was doing. He said, you know, someday, he

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also booked the Grand Hotel on Macina Island. So someday

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you're going to play up at the Grand Hotel on

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Macan Island. I said, no way. I don't want to

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be trapped on an island, and we kept arguing about it. Well,

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many many years later, after agent unfortunately had passed away,

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I ended up being in need of a gig. Guy

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called the music director at the Grand Hotel and he

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booked me right away for a few nights, and then

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after a few years I've been there five seasons.

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Now. Wow wow. And that's so for some of you

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that don't know, but I think most people know. It's

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a phenomenal movie with Christopher Reeves and Jane Seymour, right.

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Yes, somewhere in time, somewhere in.

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Time, that's one of my favorite movies.

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Well, Jane Seymour comes to the island sometimes for some

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of the reunions for the movie. So one time she

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came with a group of oh twenty five people, and

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they had a private dining room and they had assigned

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me to play piano for their private dinner in the

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and so I started playing very softly, and Jane Seymour

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came into the room and she's looking radiant, you know,

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as she does, and she came over to the piano

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and said, you're playing is beautiful. And I was, you know,

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getting my ego was up a little bit, and twenty

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seconds later she went to the banquet manager said I

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don't want piano at my dinner party. So the banquet

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manager had to come over and tell me to leave.

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I still got paid, but I got fired by Jane Seymour.

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Well, maybe just wasn't It wasn't her day that day.

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I think we're more interested in talking about the nostalgia

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of having worked on the movie than they were in

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having piano music at their dinner. I guess right, Perhaps

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I didn't take it that personally. It's okay.

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So I don't know if in your area, and I

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don't know in other states, but I'm guessing I know

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here in Florida. When we perform out somewhere, depending on

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where we're performing or who we're performing for, whether it

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be a restaurant venue or a private affair or a club,

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the pay is always different. And is that the same

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for you in your area or do you find it

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you're kind of locked into what you have going and

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that it's just a consistent.

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Well, the pay can very widely. You can find gigs

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that are the pay. For instance, if you're playing at

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a restaurant and you're playing there at two or three

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days a week, it's going to pay less per night

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than it would be if you're playing a private party

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or a wedding or something like that. So the pay

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can vary by very wide swings. I know that some

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of the jazz musicians, when we were playing jazz, which

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the kind of music we wanted to play, we would

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you said you were talking about how to get a gig,

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we would go to a restaurant and say, you know,

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we want to play jazz. We don't really care. We

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want to be paid something, but we're not trying to

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make a full dollar amount, but we want to be

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able to play jazz, and we'll we're pretty confident we

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can get at least some following. And sometimes we used

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to play in the old days for I mean, fifteen

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dollars a night wasn't as much when you got to

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the you know, the eighties and nineties, nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties.

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But we would do it and then we sometimes we'd

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pack the place and the restaurant owner was happy, and

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we were happy because we got to play the kind

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of music we liked and they didn't tell us we

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had to play this or that. You want more, Neil Diamond,

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we don't want us so much jazz. If you're getting

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paid a higher dollar amount, you go along with what

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manager wants you to do.

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Yes. And I'm asking these questions because I know musician

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listeners out there, musician friends there. I know conversations come

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up about getting paid, and then I know, the bigger

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the band, the more it gets, you know, broken down.

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So it's not you know, a place is gonna maybe

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five hundred dollars, but you have five bandmates. You got

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to split that between five plus you know the tips.

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So it's I'll speak for myself as a musician. I

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play because I get to and if I get an

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opportunity to play and get paid for it, that's really exciting.

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That's actually my goal. But it's not like you may

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agree with me. It's a juggle. Like we're musicians, but

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we also have like I'm a teacher, you're a teacher.

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So it's not like a one job job, and it's

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not even a job. It's fun.

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Right. Well, there's like you like we've been talking about,

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there's a wide range. I know some I've known some

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excellent jazz musicians in New York for instance, or you

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could rate them as world class players. But they're willing

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to go out and play a jazz gig for forty

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bucks per person. Now that seems like they're really lucky

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to make their guess money in parking, you know, for that,

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but they get a chance to play with their friends.

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And then if you go and play a wedding, you know,

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you could make closer to a thousand dollars per person. Sure,

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that's a wide variation.

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Yes, I mean, unless I'm going back a little bit.

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Unless like you have this sea these seasons, you've been

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going back and forth to Macina Island. I mean, that's

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a consistent and you're so lucky and so privileged to

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be able to have that opportunity to do that. And

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you know, it's just I guess, being in the right

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place at the right time and knowing the right people

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and just when the stars aligned, they align.

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Yeah, it's nice to have the network that you can

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grow into a network of musicians who are helping each

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other get gigs. That that's also helpful too. When I

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called the music director on Macona Island, I had a

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good reference. He didn't even ask to hear me play,

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He just tooked me for a couple of weeks, right

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on the spot. So oh nice. Maybe I've been to

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clubs before where they don't ask to hear me play.

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They said, they said, well, you look like a musician.

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You look like you know what you're doing. Well, that's

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a pretty nice compliment. I guess. I guess.

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Now, what specifically do you love to play when you're out?

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I mean, do you have the freedom to choose what

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you're going to play, or do you put practice into

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your play personally or do you just you just know

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and you just play.

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I love all types of music. I listen to pop

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music and rock and rhythm and blues and from all eras,

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00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:17.480
but I find myself really drawn to the Great American Songbook.

468
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.079
I don't know if you've heard this. Yes, we used

469
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.960
to just call them standards when I was playing my

470
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.640
first gigs, because I'm old enough to When I was

471
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.519
very young to play for a crowd, they wanted World

472
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:31.759
War Two songs, and then those were That was kind

473
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.839
of the jazz era, and those old standards are still

474
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.200
being played today. You still hear songs like over the

475
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:44.359
Rainbow and as Time Goes By and songs like that

476
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:49.079
that are standards today and there's it goes very deep.

477
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:54.319
The song composers like Gershwin, Cole Porter, and Irving Berlin

478
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.799
just wrote such great songs that they're still being played today.

479
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:01.039
I'm finding I have to mix in some more contemporary,

480
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.039
so I call him contemporary songs. But Billy Joel and

481
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:08.160
Elton John to me are more contemporary, even though there's

482
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:13.680
you know, a few decades old now, but it's a

483
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:17.759
newer style. And if you get past nineteen eighty or

484
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.160
nineteen ninety, I don't know too many recent songs.

485
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:28.880
Well, I mean, I think being alive in today's day

486
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.640
and age and having grown up, I don't know your age,

487
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:35.200
but I don't know that we're in the same bracket.

488
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.279
And if we are, we are, and if we're not,

489
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.799
we're not. But the fact that we're what's that we're

490
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.559
much younger maybe. But I also am older than I look,

491
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:49.759
so I've been told, well, I mean, I know my age,

492
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.359
but I'm told I don't look my age. So I've

493
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:55.519
been playing over forty five years not to give my

494
00:29:55.599 --> 00:30:00.440
age away. But so anyway, my point is that we've

495
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:05.880
grown up in the times where music came to life. Music,

496
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:08.799
I mean the twenties and the thirties, the Roaring twenties,

497
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.920
the Roaring thirties, that's when it all started, and it

498
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:16.519
just snowball. And the fifties, the sixties, seventies, eighties, the nineties,

499
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.240
I mean, those were in my opinion, the best of

500
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:25.920
years for music because after I mean, icons out there, musicians,

501
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.960
artists were able to express themselves, and it's we continue

502
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.519
to listen to like even what you said, like the

503
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.640
old classical pieces, we still listen to them today and

504
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:46.000
we learn from that. We still look to those beginner musicians,

505
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:50.880
those beginner artists as our as our idols in a way,

506
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.359
because I mean I still teach Beethoven, I'm still teaching

507
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:58.640
Chopin and the ones you mentioned as well. I mean,

508
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:03.519
it's just so much and it's so beautiful that we

509
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:09.079
get this variation, and then we get to choose what

510
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:10.039
we can play.

511
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:14.359
Right, and there always will be the classical music as

512
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:19.519
the foundation for learning piano. For me, it definitely was

513
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:24.119
because I studied classical music. I played Chopin and Mozart,

514
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:29.359
and I played even one list piece which was called

515
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:33.799
once a Spiro, which has very difficult technique, and then

516
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:40.640
I started playing jazz, but I never took jazz piano lessons.

517
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.160
I've learned jazz kind of on my own after having

518
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.920
the classical foundation. And I'm one of my teachers when

519
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.119
I was young, in sixth grade or so, said, if

520
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.960
you can learn to play classical music, you'll be able

521
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.400
to play jazz. Well, I'm not so sure that's absolutely

522
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.519
true for everybody, but it was to it for me

523
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.119
because I learned the classic technique and you learn something

524
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:09.359
about the class the harmonies and the compositions, and then

525
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.480
learning jazz was came naturally to me after that.

526
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.480
Sure that makes sense. And I know, I know you're

527
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.400
not going to share with us the secrets, but.

528
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.240
Well I'm open, okay, okay.

529
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.200
What can you share with us? So can you? Okay?

530
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:33.119
So let's say someone wants us sign and share. Share

531
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.319
what what you wish to share and what you don't

532
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.799
it's okay too, I want you to and what what

533
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:43.759
you want to tell our listeners. If someone today were

534
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:47.599
to sign up with your class, right and you're they

535
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.519
want to learn jazz, so can you give us just

536
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:56.319
a brief, a very brief synopsis. I don't know why

537
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.279
I can't say that word of kind of like how

538
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:04.519
you were pro you're teaching to teach that style of music.

539
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:08.680
I mean you said a little bit earlier, but well.

540
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.160
One of the first songs we work on, and a

541
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.440
lot of jazz teachers used this song as the introductory

542
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:19.079
piece to learning jazz because it has that construction that's

543
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.920
so helpful. It's Autumn Leaves. I don't know if you

544
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:26.640
know that song, yes, you play it yourself. Well, I'm not.

545
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.559
I have to work on that. I have to work

546
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.039
on a tuning my brain more to jazz to be

547
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:39.319
playing that. I've been playing more like Reva McIntyre lately

548
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.880
and different styles of billy Joel McIntyre.

549
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:48.319
Wow, that's interesting. I was playing in Sedona, Arizona, at

550
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.920
an Italian restaurant and Reva McIntyre came in and sat

551
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.319
right in the chair right next to the piano.

552
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:55.359
Oh wow.

553
00:33:56.440 --> 00:34:00.240
I could not think of a Reva McIntire song played.

554
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.160
I couldn't think of any first sis. So I was

555
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:09.360
but she was nice to me and said thank you anyway. So,

556
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.280
but if you take the song, I'm getting off subject.

557
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.920
I'm sorry, but you know, okay, if you're playing a

558
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:20.880
song like Autumn Leaves, the melody starts on E E E,

559
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:25.360
F E F R G C. That's the first four

560
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:31.679
notes of the melody. But uh right, and then that

561
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.639
hiacy you'll go to the upper CE but the autumn

562
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:43.079
leaders and when you hit that upper C, you'll play

563
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.880
an A minor seventh cord in your left hand, and

564
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.400
if you play it in the root position, you'll play

565
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:53.000
a C E G. All white notes. Okay, So, and

566
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:57.639
then when you play the next short phrase or as

567
00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:59.199
you hold the C, you will go to a D

568
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.960
seventh in the D seventh is is a four note

569
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:04.880
chord we don't have. I don't know how technical you

570
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.480
want to, how you want to get into.

571
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.880
This, but I don't. I don't want to. I don't

572
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:14.960
want to make this about me. I want you know,

573
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.280
I want to make this for my listeners so that

574
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.320
they're understanding kind of what your approach is.

575
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.760
I'll just give you the overall bird's eye view, so

576
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:30.079
it's understood even if someone doesn't understand music. You the

577
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.760
first approach is to learn the four note chords. In jazz,

578
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:40.559
you most often have four note chords. In traditional music

579
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.679
theory classical music theory, you'll you'll start with the triads,

580
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:48.559
which are three note cords. So, but you you learn

581
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:50.679
your chords and you play them in the root position.

582
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.639
That means the note that names the chord is on

583
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.880
the bottom, and then you play the melody. And with us,

584
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.960
you're reading from a lead sheet. You you have the

585
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.199
the sketch of the melody in front of you, and

586
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.920
you play the A men or seventh four not carde

587
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:10.199
D seventh major seventh and then a C major seventh.

588
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.360
And once you learn those chords in the root position

589
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:15.960
and you can play it with the melody, it actually

590
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.000
sounds like music. You'll get You'll get a nice, nice

591
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.400
sounding melody almost right away with that particular song Autumn Leaves.

592
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.280
So that's what we would start with. Earning your four

593
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:32.079
note chords and playing them in what's called the root position.

594
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.880
The root positions mean means the name of the chord

595
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.559
is is the note on the bottom, and then you

596
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.239
can then you can change around the notes a little

597
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.719
bit and get different combinations make it sound even better.

598
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.079
After that, Now, in the.

599
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.719
Group classes that you have online, like kind of like

600
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:53.199
a mastermind type of zoom, are you do you work

601
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.039
with like so many students at a time, do you

602
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.480
do you private lessons do you have, Like if it's

603
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.280
class one and you have ten students, I'm asking a

604
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.800
few different Sorry, within.

605
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.760
The class, there are students at different levels, for sure,

606
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.400
and they all help and inspire each other, because it

607
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.639
never hurts for the more advanced students to go over

608
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:21.239
the basics. And then the students who are maybe just

609
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.760
starting out or have less experience, they'll they might be

610
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.920
hearing some stuff explain to the advanced students a little

611
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.480
bit over their heads, but yet they get exposed to

612
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.800
some of the terminology or some things that might that

613
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.119
might stick with them for the future. Okay, So it

614
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.320
works like that.

615
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.920
And then you also do private lessons.

616
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:46.639
I don't do one on one lessons anymore, except occasionally

617
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.559
with someone in the class who if they need a

618
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:55.039
little extra help on something particular or special, I'll work

619
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:58.039
with them occasionally like that. But I don't do ongoing

620
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.440
one on one lessons anymore.

621
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.800
And for those listeners that are just tuning in, you

622
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.559
mentioned that you because we said this earlier, you have

623
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.000
in your online courses you meet twice a week, right, okay,

624
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.840
and there's a specific time and then whether they're in

625
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.679
Europe or anywhere in the United States.

626
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:22.039
And that's the beauty of having a group lesson lesson

627
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:26.280
online because you can be anywhere in any location. I've

628
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:30.800
had students in Canada and Boston and California all meeting

629
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.960
at the same time, and it would be even possible

630
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.639
if someone from Europe wanted to join, that would be possible.

631
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:41.199
And all the lessons and classes are recorded, so if

632
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.320
somebody misses the session, they'll have a recording of the

633
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:49.519
session available. And they develop a friendship and develop a

634
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:54.360
helpfulness together that gives you sort of an emotional safety

635
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.639
while you're trying out things, because, as you know, when

636
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.559
your practice is something at first, it doesn't always sound

637
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.639
pretty at first. You're you're working at it, and it's

638
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.440
great to have a support group like that that will

639
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:12.199
help you and encourage you to get past that.

640
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.159
Yes, and then what I mentioned earlier, a lot of

641
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:20.360
us work right, so they might we might not be

642
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.239
available at a specific time. You mentioned that it is recorded.

643
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:29.000
And then if students have questions because they've watched the

644
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:35.480
recorded version, are you easily able to like, are they

645
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.599
access to you? How do I say this? Contact you

646
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:40.320
for questions or email?

647
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.440
Well, during the two sessions two weekly sessions always available

648
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.719
and the members of the group do ask a lot

649
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:53.280
of questions then. And also we have a dedicated website

650
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.679
that's private that they can post things and ask questions,

651
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:00.800
and I stay on time up with that and answer

652
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.239
their questions right away or answer them at the next

653
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:05.239
live session.

654
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.400
Yeah, that was my next question. Do you have like

655
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.639
a private like Facebook page or but you answer that.

656
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.599
It's a Facebook type page where you can post different things,

657
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.159
and you can also access all the previous recorded lessons

658
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:23.360
for the past year and a half. And there's a

659
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.960
core course structure that has videos and PDFs where they

660
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:31.760
can review things. And we like to stress also the

661
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.760
basics learning your scales and chords. In also encouraging you

662
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:43.159
to practice little inspirational videos and inspirational performances of various artists,

663
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.199
which is a very helpful thing when you're learning p

664
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.079
and I'm sure you do. You listen to your favorite

665
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:50.920
artists and you get inspired.

666
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.679
Yes, yes, And I also will say in your favor

667
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.519
you do send out because I get them. You send

668
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:01.840
out some fabulous emails, send out some fabulous emails with

669
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.320
terrific jazz tips, or you reference it to like a

670
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:09.000
flneous monk or or someone else.

671
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:11.800
Right, And if you want to be on that email list,

672
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:15.440
you can go to that link you were showing on

673
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.400
the screen before, or you can just go to Artofthepiano

674
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:23.239
dot com artofthepiano dot com. You'll find a link to

675
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.599
join that email list, and I'll send out tips a

676
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.760
few if I'm lucky, a few times a week.

677
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.440
Yes, and they're fabulous. I love receiving them and I

678
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:33.880
always learned something from it.

679
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.920
Well, thank you. I'm glad to hear that. Ye hear

680
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.239
that feedback. That's good to hear.

681
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.840
Yes, because you're you're teaching is not the common like

682
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.320
I'm you know, I'm well, you don't know, like some

683
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:50.920
of the classes. I still take classes because it helps

684
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:52.760
me just to learn more and to be a better

685
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.519
teacher and to be a better performer. But your your

686
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.119
teaching is not the main stream. And that's why I'm

687
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.239
so excited to also so have you on the show today,

688
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:06.159
because your approach is different and your emails aren't the regular.

689
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.800
Like we're playing a classical song, you go back to,

690
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.800
like I said, like an R Tatum or a felonious monk,

691
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.440
and you just go back to the roots, and not

692
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.159
everybody does that. So I really value those little tidbits

693
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.400
of lessons that you give well thanks.

694
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:28.719
And I like to vary the complexity too. Sometimes I'll

695
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.880
get complex into a felonious monk song, and if that

696
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.119
email's too complicated for you, don't worry, because in a

697
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.840
next email or two, I'll have something that's more simplified,

698
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.719
more entry level. And if it sounds too simple for you,

699
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.800
don't worry. I'll have a complex email for you coming

700
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.559
up pretty soon. So I try to vary it like

701
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:49.039
that too.

702
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.440
And you know what, I remind myself with the things

703
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:56.079
that seem a little over my head, I look at

704
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:59.000
it as I'm learning something I didn't know before. So

705
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.320
listeners out there, if you're reading something that you're like, oh,

706
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:04.800
I have no idea what this is, just take it

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kind of like in stride, because it's you didn't know

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it before and now you do. So it's it's something

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a little tidbit. I've told myself, like, don't get frustrated

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and dismiss it because you don't know it. It's just

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something new, so you know, be open to it. Be

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open to you the different approaches of teaching and the

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different things that you that we don't know, so so

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thank you, Steve. We're almost at a time. Are there

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any last minute words that you'd like to share with us?

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And also how our students our listeners can contact you.

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Well, you can contact me through that website or you

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can email me. Feel free to email me steveatsandnermusic dot

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com and be happy to answer any questions or issues

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you have. Also, remember there's no substitute for practice. Even

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a little bit of practice every day is going to

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be helpful.

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Yes, I agree, I agree. Well, thank you so much, Steve,

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and we will we will talk again soon and I

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will definitely share some of the information you had emailed me.

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I look forward to sharing that with the link of

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the recorded show.

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Well, thank you, Lisa, thank you for having me. It

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was delightful talking to you. Thank you.

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Yes, same here and happy New Year and new year too.

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All right, thank you so much, Steve. That was great.

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And for those of you that are just tuning in,

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we've had Steve Sandner on our shows today. He's a

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jazz piano player who plays other instruments. He offers online

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online classes and the art of playing piano I think

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it is uh the name of his his contact. I

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get it confused. I told him I teach with another

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school called the Art of Piano Playing, So in my

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brain I get it mixed up. But that set aside.

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I will post on my Facebook page h Lisa Eva

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Goold a contact for Steve Sander, and I will also

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post a recorded version of our show today. In the meantime,

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I wish everyone out there are very happy and healthy

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and prosperous New Year, and make good choices. This is

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the year where we all get to be reminded that

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we're all powerful and that we all inspire each other.

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Especially music. Music has an inspiration in all of us,

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matter what you feel or what you think, is a

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song that you are touched by all the time.

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Mm hmm.

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Tune in next week, find out who my guests will

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be with me and well I know you know, so

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tuned in help me keep music alive