Dec. 15, 2025

The Sound of Gold with guest Chuck Fiore Jr

The Sound of Gold with guest Chuck Fiore Jr
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Season 1

In this episode we will meet with the son of legendary Chuck Fiore. Who has played with Billy Vera, Phoebe Snow, John Denver and more.
Chuck Fiore Jr. What's influenced in since so many ways by his idol, his Dad.
In this show we will get to learn that know matter how far a musician goes, his heart is always at home.
Still making his biggest dedication to family. The behind the scenes of a music man.

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Gold. I am Lisa

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Eva Gold and this is our Monday show. And if

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you've been here before, you know, and if you're new,

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just to let you know that my focus is on music, musicians,

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music venues, music teachers, and music schools, and I'm all

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about keeping original music alive. We have instruments that we

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play and you can't reproduce the beauty of what an

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instrument sounds like. And a lot of us that are

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in the world of music and play music, we know

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that it's a passion and we get to do it

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for others, and more so than playing for other people,

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we get to do it for ourselves. It's a gift

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that keeps on giving to ourselves and to our listeners

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around us. So music is very important. It's important to me,

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and it's important for me to have this show to

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help keep music alive and to bring more attention to

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the talent that is out in our communities for our

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local residents here in South Florida. Those of who have

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less to my show before, know that I've mentioned there

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is a lot of connections in our community to reach

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out to listen to live music. And if you're a

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musician that's just starting out, I promise you if you

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look into it, or google it or ask some friends,

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there are venues in your areas that have restaurants or

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get togethers with other musicians that like to play. With

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that being said, I'm going to deter off a little

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bit and share with you I've made. I've made a

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life here in South Florida. I'm a music teacher. I

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teach piano, but I'm also a piano player. I love

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to play, and I've surrounded myself with some wonderful people

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who I call my extended family, and we all have

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music in common. And even for those friends of mine

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that are not focused on music, you're still my extended family.

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But I'm focusing on music today and my extended music

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family that's out there that I've made some beautiful connections

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with and anytime we get together, we have a good time,

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whether we're playing music, talking music, or sharing music at venues.

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It's just a beautiful gift we get to give our

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community and more so give ourselves. What's that being said,

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those of you out there that are musically inclined or

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I don't even know if that's the right way to

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say it, but if you've grown up with music, if

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you've had family members or have family members that are

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in music, you are privileged. I think I grew up

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in a family that nobody was musically interested in playing

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an instrument other than me, and so for me a

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little it was a little bit of a challenge because

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I had to look like elsewhere outside of my box

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of home to find my inspirations. And honestly, I hated

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it practicing when I was a kid. I started playing

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when I was five. I played for years, and my

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parents always said practice, practice, and really I didn't have

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somebody to look up to to follow in their footsteps,

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and I just kind of had to create my own

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and I complained along the way, but it brought me

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to where I am today. So no complaints there with

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that being said, some of the connections I've made over

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the years, some of my music family out there does

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have family members that have inspired them throughout their years

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and they've got the privilege to follow in their footsteps,

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and it's so admirable. With that being said, you know,

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I want to I want you to help me welcome

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a very special guest today. My friend Chuck Fiori Junior

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is with us backstage.

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Hi everybody, Hey Lisa.

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Hi Chuck. How are you.

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I'm doing well. Thank you, and thank you for the

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opportunity to, you know, to share whatever I can share

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for you, guys. I appreciate that.

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Thank you, Thank you. Yes, there we have. We're across

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the nation, maybe across the globe, and so I don't

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know who's listening in, but for our listeners, some are musicians,

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some are thinking about playing a music instrument. Some have

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not joined in a community of UH open mics or

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or venues, and some have. And so I want this too.

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I know it reaches wherever it reaches. And I just

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always think that when I have a show, I just

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want to be able to touch someone out there that

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maybe they learned something from our conversation that they didn't

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know before. And you know you you played drums. You

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you grew up also in a household where your dad

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was pretty much a celebrity. And you grew up in

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that household and your dad was a dear friend of mine,

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such a such a good man, and such a great

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influence and inspiration. You're you know, I don't know how

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far you want to go back, but I know he's

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been your inspiration your whole life. And you know, how

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did that, How did that transpire into what you've done

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with your music world here and now and where you

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see yourself going with it? Maybe I'm asking too much

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at once.

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No, that's great, and I'm willing to share the story

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from start to finish if you like. Yes, how much

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time we have, But yeah, I have awesome stories to tell.

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It started, I guess, you know, since I was a kid.

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My father, even when I was born. I guess before

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I was born, he was a bass player out of Harrison,

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New York. And him growing up in his neighborhood, he

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had a bunch of musician friends that that are all

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either superstar celebrities or close to it. He just grew

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up that were his buddies. And you know in the neighborhood,

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which is incredible. Ron Viola is one of them. He's

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a saxophone player. Rick Murata. If anybody knows about drumming

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and they don't know Rick Marada's name, they should. Rick

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Murata is a drummer that played with Steely Dan. He's

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on the song peg. He played with Linda Ronstad, James Taylor,

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and it just goes on. I mean superstars, you know

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status he had. And then his brother who was ten

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years younger, who was good friends with our uncle. My

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uncle Santy was the drummer for Peter Gabriel and that

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song Shocked the Monkey and he was the original drummer

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for Orleans and just a slew of like superstar players.

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And if you're not familiar with my dad, he played

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bass guitar for the Four Tops when he was eighteen

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years old. I think he was only the only white

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guy in the whole Motown review tour that they went on.

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Then he was drafted. I was about to get drafted

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for Vietnam, and he enlisted and stayed out of Vietnam,

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so thankfully he was able to stay in the state

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side during that and after that he he started his

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career playing music with Phoebe Snow, I mean, just a

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ton a ton of artists as well, and ultimately John Denver,

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Billy Vera and the Beaters. That's that song at this moment.

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If anybody's familiar with that, they could look it up.

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But he has gold records, you know. So I grew

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up witnessing that from you know, as long as I

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can remember being around music, and so it was I

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was very lucky and very fortunate in a very surreal

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way too. My life has been very surreal that I

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was amongst these superstar people that were just like you know,

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everyday people. So it was very influential in my life.

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So it was really cool. Anything you want to know

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you just asked me.

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Now, did you. It's kind of I'm not sure how

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to ask it. Like I've done, I've done different things

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with my life, and I have my daughter that I

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raised and who's now twenty eight. So I've worked with

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some different celebrities. But her is like, no big like

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she's like, mom, I really don't care kind of thing,

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like she doesn't really She's a lovely lady, young lady.

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She cares, of course, but meaning like she just it

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wasn't a big deal to her. It wasn't like anything

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outside of normal. So with you growing up was did

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you find it different? Did you feel like just a

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home was home and dad's friends were Dad's friends. Did

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it seem like that or was it like, oh, the

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stage and the lights and the travel did that happen.

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I'm kind of asking a couple of quess.

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No, they're all really good questions, actually, and.

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That had a big impact on you.

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Yeah, it's very surreal looking back, but it was normal

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growing up. I mean, I didn't know any difference. So

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when you're a youngster and you're in this you know environment,

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it's just this is just how it is. You just

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don't know different until you get older, and then you

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look back and you go, wow, what a life. I mean,

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just just being on the sidelines of my dad's career

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was enough living that one person can do in a

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lifestyle lifetime. To see what I've seen and what I've

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been around, you know, and it's been a very influential

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part of my life. Naturally, the genetics of music just

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passed through me. And you know, I didn't even have

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to learn how to play drums. I just had it

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in me, it was crazy. But but to answer that question,

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like I remember stories, just to give you an idea,

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put in perspective, my dad played for a band that

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opened for Linda Lnstadt and I was eight years old,

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and I remember being backstage, you know, the lights, all

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of that scene going on the stage, looking at you know,

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ten thousand people clapping, and that energy was always so

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exciting to see. It was just like, Wow, my dad's

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out there with the lights and people are clapping. It

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was like, this is really cool, you know. And I

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remember being backstage and because I was alone because my

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dad was on stage, they put me in the room

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with Linda Ronstadt, whom my dad's band opened for. And

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so Linda back then was just, you know, so beautiful

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in the seventies. You know, I'm fifty five years old,

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just to put things in perspective. Fifty five, we're talking

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about the seventies here, and Linda was still young and

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vibrant and beautiful and I and she always was. But

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you know, I was backstage and I just saw her

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and just had a crush on her into eight years old,

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and I sat on her lap and she kissed me

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on the cheek and it was just normal, like, I mean,

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that was just my life and that played its part

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into so many different other bands and situations and just

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real cool stuff. I mean, I'd be happy to go

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on and on. How long do you.

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Have we have a little bit of time.

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Well, I do you have any other questions there? I mean,

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I could just start going and telling you stories. I'm

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pretty pretty much an open book when it comes to that.

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But well, what was the time or do you recall

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the time when you kind of found your instrument to

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play or did you have the opportunity where you got

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to try all different instruments?

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And yeah, well my dad when I was young, when

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he wasn't playing on off, he was a he worked

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at a sam Ash, one of the original sam Ash

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music stores in New York. And so I was growing

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up and you know, learning little instruments I could do

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in school, like the recorder, like tapping drums. You know,

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they had the violins and all that. But when it

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came to trumpet, I really picked up the trumpet. And

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so my dad, I remember him buying me one from

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the Samash store and you know, get me all set

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up and I started playing at school and I just

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naturally had musical talent, like I could hear music and

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understand it. It's genetics or whatever. Some people have it,

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some people don't. It's just strange. But it was very

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natural to me. And whenever I had teachers teaching, I

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picked it up very quickly and I excelled. At one point,

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I was like the number one chair player for trumpet

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in my in my middle school band and jazz band

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and all that. And when my teacher got wind of

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who my dad was because he asked me, are you

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chuck for your I know, I chucked you a baseball

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player that's playing with all these ops on yep, that's

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my dad. So that gave me a little bit extra

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boost I guess, you know, a little favoritism too, so

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that helped. But you know, I had to walk the

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walk and play, play the play, play the notes, you know,

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and make sure I did my job right. But it

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was it was always nice to be a little bit

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in the shadow of my dad, you know, when it

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came to that stuff.

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So did you get a chance to ever tour with

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him kind of backstage or yeah?

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story I have. I think it was kind of like

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in those seventies, like the late seventies, maybe early eighties.

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my dad had moved to Los Angeles and I was

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living in New York at the time, and so he

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would pick me up, you know, during the holidays or whatever.

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And this one year he was on tour in New

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York City and so he picked me up and he

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was playing with I think it was Nicolett Larson at

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the time, and they had a tour bus, a really

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cool tour bus, you know, with the decker bunks and

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all of that stuff in it. And I remember him

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telling me, you know, I'm going to take you on

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tour with us from New York to Washington, d C.

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And when we're done in Washington, d C. I'll bring

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you back. So you're going to be on the bus

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with us. And I was excited, like this is the ever,

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you know, to be on a tour bus that's at

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like eight, nine years old, whatever it was, and to

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go out and be backstage at all these concerts. I

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just can't express how cool it was. And you know,

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I saw a few things, you know, rock star lifestyle

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that a little kid probably shouldn't see. But I don't

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know if it's appropriate to talk about, but it was.

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But you know, you grew up a little bit quicker

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when you see those things. But it was interesting either

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way you look at it. And I was able to

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be on a bus and with a band and see

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that lifestyle, you know, like what you see in the

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in the movies or on TV. Sure it was pretty accurate,

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and it's pretty cool to be an eight year old

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witnessing that and going for a ride on a bus

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rock band. And it was just very like I said,

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it's very surreal when you when you think about, you know,

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how I how I was raised, and how I grew

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up around that, you know.

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Sure, yeah, I'm sorry. Were you going to say something?

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tell you interesting stories about really cool stuff too. I

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would be I would go out to Los Angeles from

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New York. My dad lived in LA at the time,

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and he would send me on a plane to LA

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every summer to see him, and that I would be

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around the you know, whatever he was doing. He was

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doing studio work. I was in the studio with him

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and Billion Beaters recorded their album. I was in the studio,

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watching twenty takes of one song over and over and

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over again, getting kind of bored as a kid, as

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you you could imagine. And then I've also seen Slay,

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you know, Kim Carnes, I don't know, probably familiar with

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Kim Carnes's Betty Davis Eye that song he was playing

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with her. I was in a big, huge, you know,

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sound studio when they were rehearsing that band Seanna Na.

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I was rehearsing next door back in the seventies. They

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were a big, you know, cool TV show band. I mean,

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it was just crazy. And then then he started playing

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with John Denver and Billy Vera and the Beaters and

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kind of simultaneously and I got to meet John Denver

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and what a sweet man he was, and I got

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Billy Vera and the Beaters. Billy Vera is still a

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very good friend of ours, and he may be watching

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Billy if you're out there. He probably saw this on

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my on my page. But you know, these are people

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that have written songs for Dolly Parton, I mean numerous

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kinds of stuff, and they had their own gold records

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as well, you know, so growing up around that was again,

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I can't reiterate enough. How surreal it was looking back

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and thinking about that now in my normal, everyday life

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here in South Florida, that I was a kid amongst

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all of that. Yeah, I remember one thing in particular

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that was the coolest thing as a kid that I

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just want to share that I used to watch a

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show on TV called The Dukes of Hazzard. It was like,

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you know, we were kids. We used to pretend we

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were the Dukes of Hazard. So one summer I was

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flown out to LA and this guy, Hert Peterson, who

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was in John Denver's band, was a you look up Herb.

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He's been on pretty much every album as well. He

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played banjo and singing for John. And we went to

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his house to play with his kids in the pool

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and I'm looking and Tom Wopat, who was one of

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the characters on The Dukes of Hazzard, was right there

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at the pool side just having a casual conversation with

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my dad and Herb. I guess they were working on

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his country album because he was a country singer. Okay,

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And I nearly had a conniption fit in the pool

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because I saw this guy was my hero right there

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in front of it. I've never been so starstruck in

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my life, and that one moment I remember being really started.

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But all of this was just you know, normal life

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for me, you know, and very interesting stuff, so very cool.

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Well, I do want to hear more stories, but I

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also want to I also want to mention because this

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is something that I think you and I, I mean,

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we have different different stories, but okay, I'll focus on myself.

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Kind of the idea that when you grow up and

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you the lifestyle, the fame, the fortune, you know, that

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looks great. But what what I grew up not knowing

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was the human part of it. Like there's a given

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the take, Like you can have as much as you want,

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but there's oh ways a give and a take, and

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there's always you know, almost like a balance or a juggle.

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I mean, for all of us, it's a juggle, right,

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and so some things in that juggle you have to

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put down, and some things you juggle, but not as

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much as more or less you can. Only you only

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have so much attention for so many things at one time.

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So my big question is and you, like I said earlier,

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your dad was a dear friend of mine. And I

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got to hear some great stories and we've become friends.

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And I don't know if you want to share, like

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you're a phenomenal dad, what you've and I only know

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you so much, but what you've, what you put into

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your family, I wish I wish you were like this

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poster billboard, because you know, I raise my daughter. It

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takes a lot, and I know what goes into being

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know what you have to put aside, and I know

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what goes into being that parent. So I admire you

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for who you are. And I know your dad did too,

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because your dad just praised you. Because your dad would

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say to me, I don't know how he I don't

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know how he does it, but he's such a great dad.

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He goes because he didn't get that from me.

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Well that's emotionally touching to me. So to bring the

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human aspect in and how that all affected me as

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a child, like being a part of all of that.

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I mean, it wasn't always happy times. You know, my

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dad was away most of the time. I was on tour.

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He was going around the world flying, and I wasn't

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always there. So a lot of the years of my

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life he wasn't around. When I was young, I didn't

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understand that as much as I do. As I'm older,

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I've had to learn how to reevaluate my childhood, you know,

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if that makes any sense and makes sense of it.

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But I realized, you know, obviously he was given a

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very amazing opportunity his life because of his talent to

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play music and playing music if you take it to

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that level, and I don't know any way to sugarcoat it,

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but it just is a selfish act because you have

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to sacrifice so much to do something, and when you

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have a lot of talent like that, it's like, how

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do you hold it against somebody to not live their

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dream or to let it affect how you perceive your life?

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And I've had to learn that balance over a lot

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of years, you know, that dynamic. And he was always

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a good dad. I mean, he loved me. He did

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whatever he could bring me to his life and be

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part of it. But at the same time, he loved

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being the person that he was as a musician. And

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you know, think about it, how many people out there

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that play music would die for the opportunity for one

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minute to be on a stage for sixty thousand people

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with John Denver, you know, backing him up in Tokyo, Japan,

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you know, with private jets picking you up and stuff.

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So I can't really hold it against him. He lived

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his dream and for that, For that, I always looked

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at him as though he was my hero, and he

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was always on a pedestal as far as I'm concerned.

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I always remember seeing him with that little stage light

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on his head, you know, yes, and yeah, I missed that.

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I miss him on that. So I looked at my

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life when I was young, you know, with that lack

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of a father figure in my life growing up, and

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so being that I had my foot in the door

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to be a professional musician if I wanted at any time.

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I had the musical talent as well. I just chose

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a different path for myself. I chose to be present

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and a part of my family and sacrifice the talent somewhat.

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I do different things talent wise. I've always been in

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the arts, so I designed and build swimming and I've

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had my own development construction company in the past, and

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I've always been creative and building or doing something related

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to the arts. So I chose a different path when

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it came to that. And I, you know, my daughter

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is just you know I had my daughter late in life,

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but man, be a father is just the greatest gift ever.

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And I've sacrificed playing music to be a good father.

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I don't hold that against my father in any way.

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I just chose a different path for me. And and ironically,

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my daughter is a singer and she's singing solos in

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the upcoming Christmas concerts. And I don't even push that

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on her. She just is naturally, you know, endowed with

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musical talent. I guess. So it's a very very cool thing.

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I love that. A couple of questions detouring I'm zigzagging,

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Where are you located?

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I am a sales manager and partial I look at,

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you know, being one of the core people here at

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the company. But it's pool Prosbuilder and you can go

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to poolprosbuilder dot com. We build luxury pools, design and

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build pools is what I do. So I you know,

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we're in the South Florida area or we're out of

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out of Coconut Creek, Florida, and we do everything from

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worked for a few already, and this is one of

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the best by far in the business. So I'm proud

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to be here.

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Yeah, going back to your drumming, are you still just

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for the fun of it, drumming on the side. Are

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you still playing out locally?

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Are you just well, yeah, that's a good question. I mean,

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I didn't even really get to that part. But I

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went from playing trumpet when I was young and having

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to be in a marching band. They asked me to

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be in a marching band and wear tights and be

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a patriot, and I just wasn't my thing because I

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learned how to My father taught me about how to

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listen to music and read music and stuff like that.

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So I dropped. I put the trumpet down and never

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picked it up again. And I went from a first

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chair to a note chair, and then I just decided

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to play drums. And drums came from me sitting behind

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the drummer beyond instead of being backstage. Sometimes I'd have

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to be behind the drummer and I would watch them

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all four arms and legs moving, and I just found

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that the coolest thing. And I was athletic, so the

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ambidextrous part kicked in and it was just a natural

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transition for me to play drums. And so I played

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on and off in LA when I moved to Florida.

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I ended up playing more later in life than I

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did when I was younger, and I played with with

464
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.759
some blues bands, some decent players down here, Mark Telesca,

465
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.400
I did this small stuff with JP Sores and a

466
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.680
lot of some of the big names I've been sharing

467
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.920
the stage with, and it's very awesome. And until I

468
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.640
had my daughter, I was playing three to four nights

469
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.480
a week, and once my daughter was born and I

470
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:19.799
wanted to be present, I had to tell everybody I

471
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.960
had to scale that back, and it went from three

472
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.200
four nights a week to maybe two nights a week,

473
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:28.880
and then one night a week, and now I'm currently

474
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.720
at zero nights a week, which I'm okay with. It's

475
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:36.319
a great sacrifice because I'm able to focus my attention

476
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.720
now my daughter and what she's doing. I mean, I'm

477
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.039
fifty five, so I've lived that part of my life already.

478
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.359
You know, it's been fun. But to answer your question,

479
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:46.200
I have a project coming up with a guy named

480
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:49.880
Jack Schulman, possibly for Beatles on the Beach. Are you

481
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:50.920
familiar with Beatle Yes?

482
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.880
In fact, I got the email from Darryl.

483
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.480
Heartwell Daniel Hartwell, yeah.

484
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:59.279
Daniel Hart, it's over in Boca. Yes.

485
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.720
They have the Beatles on the Beach is typically in

486
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.880
Delray Beach, and they have the Old School Square and

487
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:09.519
they have a big stage there and they bring in

488
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:13.319
some big acts. Mickey Dolan's I believe, was there last year,

489
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:17.319
and a whole bunch of other artists Beaten the Blues

490
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.400
Beatles I think, or there are a bunch of different

491
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.799
bands that have played there. So Jack is putting together

492
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.119
something which I actually have to go to tonight to

493
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.160
rehearse with and start my first night. So I'm pretty

494
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:32.279
excited about that. To me, music is therapy.

495
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.680
Is this the one that Morgan Friedman is gonna host,

496
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.880
because there's one coming up that he's gonna host.

497
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:41.400
Really, I didn't know who was going to host this

498
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:42.759
one yet to be honest with you, I don't know

499
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.400
all the details yet, so it's all new to me,

500
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:49.480
so it's quite possible. I mean, Daniel is able. You know,

501
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:54.279
he's written a book about John Lennon, you know, and

502
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.240
all different kinds of stuff, so he's been just pictures

503
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.720
of him and meetings that he's had with Ringo Star

504
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:06.599
and my dad. Actually, uh, ironically speaking of that, his

505
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.400
buddy who played with Nicolette that I know, Bryan Brian

506
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.680
ray r a y not Brian May. He is the

507
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.759
guitarist for Paul McCartney currently and has been playing with

508
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.920
Paul for for years. And I guess you know, we've

509
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.640
we've got ties to the Beatles in some ways. So

510
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.880
it's it's going to be an interesting function and I'm

511
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:32.559
looking forward to playing something at this event, so pretty excited.

512
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.039
Well, can you share with our listeners because I don't.

513
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:40.000
I kind of forgot when it's happening, Like when the

514
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:41.680
when the show is happening, do you remember?

515
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.880
I didn't expect to promote it, but it is usually

516
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.279
I think in March or somewhere around then.

517
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:53.200
Yeah, I guess listeners just type in.

518
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:57.880
Beatlemania, Beatles on the Beach, Beatles on the beach in

519
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:02.640
Delray Beach, Florida, and you should be able to, you know,

520
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.079
find that real quickly and looking forward to that. I'm

521
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.119
not sure what our act is. I'm not sure what

522
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:10.400
our band's going to be that I'm in, but it's

523
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.519
it's a new one and I'm showing up there tonight

524
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:16.440
to find out. So yeah, so it's going to be exciting.

525
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:17.799
So I'm really looking forward to that.

526
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.960
So I don't know if you know. And this is

527
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:24.759
not this show is not about me. It's about you

528
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:29.240
and your dad, and but I'm wanting to share with you.

529
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.640
I've played piano since I was five, right, so I've

530
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:37.240
been playing my whole life. It wasn't until your dad

531
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:42.039
and I, uh, we're talking about music and and and

532
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:46.799
just you know, we we had gone out a few

533
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.880
times for lunch and it was just so nice to

534
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.160
hear so many of his stories. But it wasn't until

535
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:57.759
your dad introduced me to the Nashville Number System. M

536
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.519
He's like, you have to have this. He goes, I'm

537
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:04.559
going to order this book for you. It's okay, I'm like,

538
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:06.279
I can, I can order it. He's like, but you

539
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.920
have to get this book. So I ordered the book

540
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.079
and I like, all right, I got and he goes, okay,

541
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.359
well that's how it goes, Nashville number system. You have

542
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:19.160
to go buy that. So you know it was he

543
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.640
he knows it well to break down of it. It's

544
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.599
still a little bit Greek to me because I think differently, right,

545
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.000
But but I really appreciated that.

546
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.279
That's cool. Yeah, that national numbers I have. You know,

547
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.920
my dad passed away last October for those that don't

548
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.400
know of Alzheimer's, and so I went through all of

549
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.839
his stuff and you know, I'm finding his charts all

550
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.039
over the place with these numbers like five, five four

551
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:47.240
four four three treats. And I had no idea what

552
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:50.119
that was. I mean, I knew it was the number

553
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.960
system that he used, right, I never learned it. And

554
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.079
as a drummer, you know, well, going back to as

555
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.440
a trumpet player, I learned how to read music. And

556
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.680
as a when I saw music on a sheet, I

557
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.759
was just too overwhelmed with how many notes and beats

558
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:08.079
there were that it just blew my mind. I didn't

559
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.000
think I could keep up with it. So playing by

560
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.039
ears the way, I kind of learned it, and he

561
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.599
taught me how to listen beat, the soul in the

562
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.519
back end of the beat, and where it should be

563
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.400
in relative to his playing as a bass player. I

564
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.279
never learned to play bass. It wasn't an interest that

565
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.119
I had for whatever reason. But I'm really glad that

566
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.079
I didn't because I was a drummer. If I was

567
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.720
a bass player, we wouldn't be able to share the

568
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:35.799
stage together.

569
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:35.920
You know.

570
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.880
And so for many years I got to be in

571
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.200
a band with my dad locally here with Jerry Lehman

572
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.559
and a few other players and stuff. So we've gotten

573
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:47.839
to share the stage at the Funky Biscuit and some

574
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.559
really big, you know, really nice venues to be. I mean,

575
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.200
we made the wall together at the Funky Biscuit, which

576
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.480
is something near and dear to my heart that we

577
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.880
have a photo of us playing together and it's mounted

578
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.519
on the wall at the Funky Disk. So being able

579
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.400
to go back to the number system, it is he's

580
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.279
learned a lot of ways to make charts and I

581
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.440
still have copies of those charts that I keep near

582
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:15.759
and dear to me. And yeah, he I mean, he

583
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:18.720
taught me everything I know about how to listen to music,

584
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:22.680
and that's one of the biggest things you need to

585
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.440
acquire as a musician is to be able to listen

586
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:31.200
first and hear the soul here the back ends of notes,

587
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.119
and to not be too busy, and to stay in

588
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.640
the pocket and to know you're to stay in your

589
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:41.000
lane when you have to, and to keep it simple

590
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:46.799
and structural. And I've learned everything through that, through that mentality, I'll.

591
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.880
Never forget again. It's a different story because he's not

592
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.920
my dad. With a friend, I'll never forget. I played

593
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.200
piano one time for him and he just stood there

594
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.039
and he listened, and I go, what do you think, Chuck,

595
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:03.200
And he goes in needs some resolution, right, And I

596
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.559
thought that was great. I never forgot that. And to

597
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.759
our listeners out there, I'm gonna zig zag again. I

598
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:12.680
was classically trained, so I learned like how to read

599
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:16.279
from the book, how to read the notes. And I

600
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.440
remember being really young, and I had a total of

601
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.079
five music teachers over the years, over like ten years,

602
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.279
fifteen years, and a lot of them quit on me

603
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:28.599
because I'm like, I just want to do my own thing,

604
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.559
like and if you've heard me play now, you know

605
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.119
I just kind of do my own thing. So but

606
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:36.240
they would get upset with me. They like, no, this

607
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.559
is their structure. You have to you know, you have

608
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.839
to play it this way. Now, as a teacher, I

609
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.759
know they're you know, you have to teach foundation before

610
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.519
you can kind of let loose. So I get that.

611
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.359
But what I would love for you to share with

612
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.839
our audience, and I'm gonna go, I'm just gonna like

613
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:56.920
tap on the iceberg, the tip of the iceberg on

614
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:00.160
this because there's it can go so deep. You can

615
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.240
and you've read music too, you can read music, but

616
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:08.239
to listen to music and play, it's a totally different

617
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:12.519
part of the brain, and it's a totally different way

618
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.519
of playing because it's not I'm going to let you finish.

619
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.320
No, I understand exactly where you're going with that. And

620
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.280
you know the best way to explain that is for

621
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.400
anybody if you're out there, if you've played in jam

622
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.039
bands or if you've gone to jams or anything like that,

623
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.440
you can hear the difference between a player that just

624
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.800
plays technical meaning they play the notes where the notes

625
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.800
are supposed to go, and the structure of the sound

626
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.880
and all of that. But when you hold a note

627
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.320
a certain way or bend a note a certain way,

628
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.320
or put a note in a place that makes sense,

629
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:51.880
but it's not busy. You're not playing too many notes,

630
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.400
but you're playing the right notes the right place in

631
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.119
the song, just a comfortable place. It smooths the sound

632
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:03.400
out and it actually refines the sound and creates You

633
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:06.679
could definitely hear the more professionalism in that sound versus

634
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:10.039
just tapping notes and playing them where they're supposed to go.

635
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:15.119
There's a big difference when you listen to a guitarist

636
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.599
that is, you know, a virtuoso versus somebody who's just

637
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.519
who may even be a professional, who may be a professional,

638
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:26.199
but is not at that level. And you could hear

639
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.199
the difference of how people hold a note in the

640
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.079
right place. And that's one thing my dad stressed, as

641
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.639
you said, he wanted things to resonate. He wanted to

642
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.840
place notes and hold them the right length so that

643
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:42.079
they made sense and they filled in that space. As

644
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.519
a bass player, and he said that even with drums,

645
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.679
you know to watch your fills, make sure if your

646
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.239
fills make sense, make sure they're on time, and that

647
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.199
you hold your even your symbols. You hit your symbols

648
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.920
where they belong so they resonate to fill in that space.

649
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:01.599
It was very similar and bass and rhythm guitar or

650
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.239
the rhythm section of a band, and so they all

651
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.199
are very important to each other and play off of

652
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.280
each other. So it was nice to have that knowledge

653
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.239
bestowed upon me as a drummer coming from a bass player.

654
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.320
And I actually know some great drummers that are good

655
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.559
bass players too, which is really interesting because it's a

656
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.119
very rhythmic instrument.

657
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:26.800
Yeah, that is that is interesting, and it was what's

658
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:32.400
crazy is that all musicians out there we play because

659
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.199
we have a passion for it, right, because we've learned

660
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:37.360
what we've learned, or we can just play by ear

661
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.039
for some of us. The crazy thing that I just like,

662
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.719
I'm in awe of is that if you tear it

663
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.519
all down and I've played guitar and I played other violin,

664
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:52.239
but piano is my instrument. And if you break all

665
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.800
the patterns down and just look for like the one

666
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:59.639
main there's twelve keys, right, so there are thousands and

667
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.400
hundreds and I don't want to say millions as well,

668
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.239
there might be of songs out there all created out

669
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:08.199
of twelve.

670
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.880
Keys, right, Yeah.

671
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:14.079
And it's just so amazing like in this lifetime, how

672
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.960
privileged we are to be exposed to so much different

673
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:22.119
sound that's made with twelve notes exactly.

674
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:26.119
And not only that, every human being is different, and

675
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:33.360
every human being feels and responds to anything in life

676
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.960
a certain a different way. And you may hear a

677
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.360
note different than somebody else. Here's a note. And so

678
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.119
that's why we have such diversity in music and so

679
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.920
many different kinds of you know, options with music to

680
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.559
play or to listen to. And it's always good to

681
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:57.199
cultivate your mind with as many different types of music

682
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.559
so that you can pick and choose in there to

683
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:03.199
create your And sometimes creativity really comes from all those

684
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:07.639
bits and pieces that you pick from from everywhere. And

685
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:11.000
if you're writing music or writing lyrics, your stories. Everybody's

686
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:15.039
stories are somewhat different, so many cases, and some songs

687
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.880
about things, you know, I think sings stings song every

688
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:23.559
breath you take. People. I remember an interview that he

689
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:25.400
had where he said that people play that at their

690
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:27.360
wedding and say, that's one of our favorite songs. And

691
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:29.679
the funny thing he says about it is that it's

692
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:30.960
a song about stalking.

693
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:32.679
And so.

694
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:38.039
You know, some people hear the melodies or hear music

695
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:41.039
a different way and it resonates a certain way to them.

696
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:43.719
But the true meaning behind that song is stalking somebody.

697
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.480
Every breath you take, every movie you make, I'm watching you.

698
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:50.480
You know, it's not like not a love song, but

699
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.840
it sounds like one if you listen to the melodies

700
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.920
and the way he played it. And that's the genius

701
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.760
between between him and others that he found a way

702
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:03.239
to maybe mock music in a sense and make it

703
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:07.360
different for the ear. But everybody receives music and plays

704
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:11.679
music like it's their own language, you know, be very different.

705
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.079
Right, And there there is the foundation as I mean,

706
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.760
i'm talking, I'm teacher talking now, there is the foundation

707
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:23.360
of it. But then like take like another good friend

708
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.920
of mine is Victor Wooten. He's like, forget about the theory,

709
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.920
just toss it out the window. He's like, just play right,

710
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.039
and and it's so true. And you know too, if

711
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.960
when you're just when you're creating, when you're composing, when

712
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.639
you're playing, like your mind does not attached. Your mind

713
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:46.079
kind of like went backstage and there's just this different

714
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.880
flow that comes out and it's just so beautiful.

715
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:53.480
It's called the zone, right the zone, the zone, and

716
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.440
it is an interesting thing when it happens. I mean,

717
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:01.760
I always feel that music when you even if it

718
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.400
doesn't come across. If you're just starting. Let's put it

719
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.760
this way. If you're starting and you put three people

720
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.079
in a room and they start playing music and they

721
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:13.559
finally come together and it makes somewhat sense, that little

722
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.039
bit of sense fills you with like this, I gotta

723
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.000
move forward, I got to make this better. I got

724
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.480
this is just awesome. You get a natural high from

725
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:25.599
knowing that you created something with other people, just with

726
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:31.119
an instrument, and that is pleasing and resonates to other people,

727
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.840
and it's just an incredible feeling. And if you're just starting,

728
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.239
it's great to just keep starting, keep practicing, put yourself

729
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:43.840
in that position to grow and to listen. And it's

730
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:47.119
never it takes some time. It's never just instant with everybody,

731
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.440
because you know, you play music with other people to

732
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:53.000
make a full sound. And you know, some bands stay

733
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.760
together for eighty years. Some people last not even six

734
00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:01.760
months together. You know, it's it's a personality, it's a collaboration.

735
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:07.519
It's a relationship with music, you know, and it's really

736
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.480
a cool thing. So for those people that are learning

737
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.199
music right now and want to get together a dance,

738
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.199
don't be afraid to get in a room with other

739
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.599
people in play. It's the greatest, greatest thing you can do.

740
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.280
It's the greatest yes, and it's it's the group of

741
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.880
people that you'll be surrounded by are so supportive because

742
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:29.159
none of us got to where we are without having

743
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:30.159
to start from the beginning.

744
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:30.760
Right.

745
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:35.440
So whatever your or whatever, whoever your inspirations have been,

746
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.760
whether you're just beginning now or you begin as a child,

747
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.440
you know we're we're always learning from each other. We're

748
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.559
always growing. It's never like bake a cake and okay,

749
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:48.760
the cake's ready to eat. That's it. Okay, now it's

750
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.519
time to clean up. It's never that with music. It's

751
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.960
always you're always creating a new recipe.

752
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:59.119
More or less, I agree. What I find most interesting

753
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:03.840
about miss and music is I think most there's going

754
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.039
to be catty people and anything that you do, but

755
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.320
generally speaking, musicians create that. They just know they have

756
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.679
this art inside of them that they share with others,

757
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:18.320
and there's this camaraderie and family vibe and togetherness and

758
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:22.639
support that musicians give each other. It's really an amazing

759
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.760
community to be a part of. I have some of

760
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.400
the best I'm going to say mostly all of my

761
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.960
friends are musicians, true true friends, And I can walk

762
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.079
into an event that I haven't seen people for two

763
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.880
three years and we just instantly embrace and hug and

764
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.679
talk about life. We don't even talk about music sometimes,

765
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:44.519
we just talk about our lives. You know. It's just

766
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.760
such a nice bond that that music brought together in people,

767
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:53.519
and it's something that it's a common thread that I mean,

768
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.239
I think everybody likes to listen to music, at least

769
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.760
I don't know anybody that doesn't like to listen to music,

770
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.360
whatever it may be, you know, So if you have

771
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.480
that in you, you could kind of relate to, you know,

772
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:08.400
if you created that same music and had that commonality

773
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.880
with other people. So it really is quite a gift

774
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.559
that I've been given by my dad and that I've

775
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.920
cultured over the time, because it does take time to

776
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:24.400
culture that gift and learn it and make it work

777
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.679
in a sense that creates, you know, these bands and

778
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.519
music and songs. It's just it's just an awesome, awesome

779
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.199
gift that I was given, so yes.

780
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.880
So there's a couple of things we're gonna get ready

781
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:43.599
to close off the show. But I just wanted to

782
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.320
bring up quickly you mentioned like you kind of said

783
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:49.480
like it's never too late to get involved in music,

784
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.280
and I said on other shows, my oldest student is

785
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:56.840
ninety five. Oh that's awesome and she still plays. Yeah.

786
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.840
But what I wanted to just finish off with again

787
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.559
in admiration for you as a dad and for our

788
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.880
listeners out there, you know, and going by from raising

789
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.800
my daughter and I went through some kind of time

790
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.719
and I don't want to talk too much about this,

791
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.079
but because we don't have much time left, family comes first,

792
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:26.280
right the music, Because I went through something in my

793
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:29.119
past where my dad had passed away and I had

794
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.320
to reevaluate my life, my priorities, and I had to

795
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:35.000
put some stuff down and say, you know what, this

796
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.079
will I will come back to you because I can.

797
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.039
But my daughter's only going to be this age for this,

798
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.400
you know, for this long, Like when today is over,

799
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:46.639
there's tomorrow, and so you can't relive today thinking you'll

800
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.719
make it up tomorrow. So for our listeners out there

801
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:53.320
that have been where I've been, maybe we're been where

802
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:55.320
you've been, where it's like go go go, you know,

803
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:57.360
got to like focus on me and my passion and

804
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.360
keep it going. Like you can't replace family time. You

805
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.599
can't replace raising your kids. And so again I just

806
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:10.320
you know, I'm gonna say, I love you for what

807
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.519
you chose to focus on, and I think that's beautiful.

808
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:18.280
You can't replace that and your gift you will always

809
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:20.800
have and to share.

810
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.880
Well, I appreciate that. That's very kind and sweet. And

811
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:25.760
you've always been very kind and sweet. We know each

812
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:27.880
other for a long time now, and so thank you

813
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:31.320
for that. I will say though that you know, although

814
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.400
I made a different choice when it comes to music

815
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.800
as far as being a professional musician or playing more

816
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.159
often than I would, you know that I would like

817
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.760
to do. I focus now on my daughter, and like

818
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.360
I said, the genetics of her now singing. I go

819
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.079
to her, her choir shows, I go to you know,

820
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:53.000
she's just cheerleaded in the Delray Beach Christmas Parade. I mean,

821
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:56.920
she's you know, the pleasure I'm getting out of seeing

822
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.559
her following our footsteps just naturally. I can take her

823
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:02.480
to the guitar Center and she won't. I can't get

824
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.360
her out of there. She loves her. It's like a

825
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.199
toy store for her. It's amazing. I don't even I

826
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.480
don't even push it on her. So, like I said,

827
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.000
it's just a different way. Like the music is still

828
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.840
in our family. We talk about music all the time.

829
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.480
We talk about my dad all the time. You know,

830
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:23.400
she understands, you know, who he was and his mark

831
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.000
on the world, and she's just going to carry that

832
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.199
and and that's going to be a choice that she's

833
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.320
going to make for herself. But I have a pretty

834
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.679
good intuition that she's going to be very involved in

835
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:36.079
music as she gets old her I'm.

836
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:41.599
Sure that's wonderful. No, now, che thank you so much

837
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:45.679
for being a part of the show today. There's probably

838
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:50.079
hundreds of other stories that you would I would love

839
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:54.119
to hear, and I'm sure our listeners would to maybe

840
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:55.679
sometimes like to come back on the show.

841
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:59.840
Sure, yeah, we can talk more about that, no problem.

842
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.239
I'd love to share it. I'm an open book. I

843
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:06.159
have nothing, you know. I'm a very transparent person. Sometimes

844
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.480
that's good and sometimes it's not so good. But I

845
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.360
appreciate the opportunity to share with everybody. And I hope

846
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.639
that people are not afraid to or have a fear

847
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.519
of getting out there and playing music. Yeah, you know,

848
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.800
at whatever level you're at, it doesn't matter. Just get

849
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.840
out there, express it. Playing music takes you to a

850
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.119
different place. It takes you away from the problems of

851
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.400
the world and you get that time in your own

852
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:35.239
head to focus on music. It just gives you a

853
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.679
nice vacation from the reality of the world sometimes.

854
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.639
Yes, yes, well on that note, thank you, Chuck. We

855
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.760
will continue to keep in touch and for everybody out there,

856
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.679
Happy holidays, Marry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, happy Kwanza, and I

857
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.079
might be forgetting some other stuff out there, but God

858
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:59.079
bless and may everyone have a safe holiday. And tune

859
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.000
in next week to see who my guests will be.

860
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:05.360
Then, likewise, happy holidays everybody, and thank you again. Thanks Lisia,

861
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.079
you have a great Christmas in New York.

862
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.119
Okay, thank you too. Okay, Hi, thank you so much

863
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.480
for joining us today. That was Chuck Fiori Junior, and

864
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:19.679
we got to hear about some of his dad's stories

865
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:30.920
and some of his stories growing up. Tune in next

866
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.239
week to find out who our musical guest will be.

867
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:36.639
Help me keep music alive,