Jan. 26, 2026

The Sound of Gold with guest Aaron Garner the creator of Piano Marvel

The Sound of Gold with guest Aaron Garner the creator of Piano Marvel
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Season 1

What is Piano Marvel? Who is Aaron Garner? Tune into our show to learn how piano Marvel is impacting the internet. Piano students of all ages and at all levels can learn piano through this online piano school program. Piano lessons are set up and offered through an easy access website. Tune in to learn more and how you can sign up for a free trial.

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Gold. I'm so glad

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that you're here. And if you've been with us before,

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welcome back. And if you're new, welcome. I'm here in

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my home studio with my cat, Cali, and she likes

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to play piano two sometimes. Yeah. My focus for this

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show is all about music. It is all about keeping

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music alive and focusing on musicians, music teachers, music schools,

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music venues, and anything else that has to do with music,

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which is so much and other than being a radio

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show host, I am also a music teacher. I teach

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here in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, and I teach several

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different schools as well as private lessons. In addition to

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being a teacher, I am also a student. I continue

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to keep myself I don't not gonna say educated, but

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keep myself fresh, right, because the more I learn, the

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more I get to teach, and the more I learn

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about different perspectives and different ways of teaching how to

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play the piano. It not only makes me a better player,

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but it also makes me a better teacher, because then

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I get to show up for my students and always

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keep them not on their toes, but keep their interest.

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I will say that I do teach live. However, when

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I take lessons, I take online lessons because of my

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busy schedule, and that works for me. I learn so

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much from online classes. However, as a teacher, I'm going

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to say, oh, it's better one on one. However, in

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the same paragraph, I'm going to say, it depends on

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your schedule. And if you really, really really want to

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learn how to play an instrument, don't think you don't

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have the time for it. You make the time. And

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there are so many schools in your community wherever you're

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tuning in from. Just google music class and you will

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find a local venue according to a busy schedule. I

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promise you if you go online and look for online

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music classes, you will find that as well. And I

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am so excited today to invite my guest Aaron Gerner

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from Piano Marvel to our show. And Aaron, are you

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with us? I am, I can hear you, yes, good

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good erin thank you so much for making the time today.

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I know you have a busy, busy schedule and I've

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been following you for years. I make mention of your

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program to my students, not to take away from private lessons,

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but you are like the in addition to private lessons,

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like when kids are on vacation or kids are traveling,

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everybody has an iPad and they're able to log on,

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and so I just I'm always recommending you, and there's

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so much to say about your program before we get

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to that part. Though you and I were both musicians,

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we didn't start out here. We didn't start out playing

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like we play or teaching the way we teach. I

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will love for our listeners and myself included, to get

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a little bit of history of what's inspired you. Where

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did you start and how did you get to where

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you are now?

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Well, Lisa, it's a it's a very interesting story because

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I was not going to be a musician. I was

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My first love was sports. I loved football above all

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other sports, and that's all I thought about when when

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I was young. But my mother she wanted me to

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be the violinist of the family. She had nine children,

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and each one of them was assigned a different instrument.

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She thought she was going to build an orchestra and

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should have built a baseball team. So I didn't really

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like the violin because I just didn't have patience for it.

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And my brother, he was the pianist, but he rode

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a motorcycle. He loved his motorcycle, and we would have

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to drive like twenty twenty five miles from one city

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all the way to another city to get to my

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orchestra lesson, and I would put me on the back

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of his motorcycle and strap my violin to my back

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and off we'd go. And remember sitting there and I

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just hated violin lessons. And then my brother actually died

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when on a motorcycle accident when I was ten years old. Sorry,

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and so I my mom just went fu teaching and

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quit went into a depression, and so I decided, I

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don't know why, but I decided to take up the piano. Okay,

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Remember I found a John Thompson book and I was

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sitting on the piano, and so I just went through

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it in like a day and started the next book,

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and I got bored, so I went into Uh. I

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found a song for a lease, and I learned to

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play that one really fast and played it and somebody's like, hey,

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you're amazing. So I'm like, okay, I'll try my next song.

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So the next song I tried it was like Chopin's

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Revolutionary Issue. So I'm in six stupid, hard songs and

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no business doing it at all. But I didn't have

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any guidance or any teacher kind of figured out how

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to read notes on my own, so I was picking

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up really bad habits. But of course, so it was

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going to be a football player. It didn't matter. I'm

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just doing this for fun. But about the time when

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I was in high school, I had decided by then

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I was going to be a neurosurgeon. Okay, so going

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into that that was the career. But my mom was like, hey,

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you know, you're getting pretty good at piano. Maybe we

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should put you in a piano competition. So I entered

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this competition and I got destroyed. I think it was awful.

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I played. I think it was a pathotique sonata.

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Okay, I love that piece.

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Judge just said, you know what, you have raw talent.

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I'm like, I've got raw talent. I think it was

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just you have no training whatsoever. This kid needs some help.

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But we couldn't afford lessons, and so the judge actually

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talked to one of the professors at the college there

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and said to be willing to pay or teach the

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student without any pay, and he agreed to. We couldn't

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afford it, and so we I think my mom did

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pay what she could afford whenever she could. But that

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year I won first place at state in an MT

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and a competition, and so I'm like, wow, maybe I

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like this thing. And I eventually ended up feeling like, okay,

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music is my calling. I prayed about it and just

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felt this really strong impression that I needed to go

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into music. And I was really mad about that, Like,

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mostly it is because I didn't think musicians can teachers

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make any money or pianists, and I grew up poor.

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I didn't want to be poor the rest of my life.

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So I think I was I wanted something really hard

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that I thought was hard, and something that made a

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lot of money, and so I was That's my whole reason.

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I think. I just I was a neurosurgeon. But I

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did enjoy music and it was fun. And I applied

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for a scholarship into a college and I got a scholarship,

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and so I got to the college. And where did

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you go?

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Did you go to? I was?

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I was accepted at by U Provo, And so when

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I got there, I started studying with the professors there,

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and one of them, my main professor, said Hey, I

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want you to read this this music for me, this book.

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And I'm like, can I have a week? He's like,

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what do you mean? I said, well, I can't just

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read it. I gotta I gotta figure out the notes

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and put it together and memorize it and then I'll

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play it for you next week. He's like, you mean

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you can't read. They forgot to ask me to site

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read before they gave me the scholarship. And I'm like, yeah,

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I didn't really have a traditional training of how to

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get into music, and so they took the scholarship away

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from me the next year and I'm like, oh, so immediately,

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I'm like my sight reading hurt me.

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Yeah, I feel crushed.

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Oh man, I started hiding it, which you would do

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obviously if it hurts you, you don't let people know

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you can't say reading. So I went back and I

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studied at a university where I first started because my

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professor there knew that I couldn't read. I mean, I

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won the competition, but I couldn't read, No big deal whatever,

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And so I studied with him and he put me

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in a collegiate competition and I won first place in

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the collegiate competition. I am getting ready to do a

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master's degree in piano, and so I start applying for

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different degrees across the country and one of the schools

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I applied to was the music school Releaseman. They said,

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come out and audition for us. I out there, got

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on a bus. It took three days. I was sitting

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on a bus from one city of all the way

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across the country. And I show up and there's four

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hundred people applaying for two positions. No, so the first

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question they ask because they knew I could play, but

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they're like, so I read this and immediately I'm like,

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oh no, So they saw me attempt it and they're

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like next. So obviously I didn't get that that position there,

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and so I applied for another school and same thing happened.

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They said, right, oh, and so I got accepted into

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a school at USC in California, and that was to

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do film scoring because I had a passion for sure.

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Yeah, I love that kind of stuff.

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Yeah, well another school in Colorado. See you boulder the audition,

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So come back in a couple of years when you

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can read better. Right again. And so the last school

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was unc okay, really Colorado. And you know, I'm getting

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used to these questions, and so they're about to ask

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me to sight read. Okay, I feel it coming, and

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I said, do you guys have a composition program? And

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they excited and completely forgot to ask me to sight

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read and just sidetrackeded and they gave me a big

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scholarship and I had a teaching assistantship there and it

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was great. I got into my master's and doctorate there

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by that it was kind of too late, and they're like, well,

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we don't know why you can't read. And I tried

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and tried to figure it out, but it became something

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that was a sore spot for me. And I'm like,

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when I teach, I am not going to have my

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students go through that same pain that I went through,

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I'm going to teach them how to read. And so

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I have become part of Piano Marvel was born of

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that problem where I was looking for a way to

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help students across the world learn to read better. Music

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literacy has been declining since nineteen sixties, has just been

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going down and down and down, and so I am

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looking for wiz that we can turn music literacy around.

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And so one of the I guess one of the

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stories was when I didn't really tell you how I

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built piano mar role or how that came about. But

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I was in probably my masters.

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Hold that thought. I want to get back to that.

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I want to ask, So, when you were going through

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the journey out in the valley of playing and not

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site reading, did you play by ear?

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I had a very good ear, but I did not

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play by ear. I knew where every note lived on

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the grand staff. I just couldn't do it quickly, okay,

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And so I would read the notes figure it out.

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I could do rhythms, and I would listen to recordings,

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so I not how it should sound. But I also

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was good at math, and so I figured out where

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the notes should go and then I would just memorize

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them like that. So then I would just practice looking

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at my fingers, and my memory was really quick. I

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learned a piano concerto, sixty one page piano concerto in

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like twenty one days. Memorize all million notes whatever it is, right,

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So my memory became very good because that's how I learned.

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My reading was very bad.

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Okay, So then so your journey inspired you to I'm

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assuming and please please interrupt me to do research into like, hey,

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I can't read the only one going through this, even

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though when we're going through stuff, we kind of feel

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it because it's so painful, emotionally painful. On I think

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self esteem mostly, but I mean fill in my blanks here.

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what inspired me to help other people was what I

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you know, avoid that or make that their strength, and

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so that kind of became my strength. Because many teachers

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who never struggled with reading. Just assume their students figured

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out or not. They've they've never gone through the painful

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process of learning how to read, if you're not, just

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gifted and just pick it up naturally. So that became

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one of my strengths because I could analyze I've been there,

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my assignment was to teach music majors who needed to

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they could go teach, but they had to get a

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piano proficiency exam past and so they would have to

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play their scales and of course, and one of the

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things that I wanted to do was make sure that

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they read music when they left the school and they

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could sit out a piano and play the alto part

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or whatever they needed a company acquire. And so I

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that we were using to teach from. They were boring,

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I'm going to just start grabbing books and having them

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read easy stuff that's really fun, and i'd have them

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check the books out. They never did it. They're like uh.

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skill and pass this class and get it over with.

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were really cool. Music case was when I stumbled across

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that showed there was like a rhythm game on there

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where you'd press the space bar. This was way back.

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you'd get like a scored off if your timing was wrong.

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way to put notes behind it so you could play

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the notes, show you ones you got right in which

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ones you got wrong, and give you a score and

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make it like a video game type idea. Nobody had

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done it before. The technology didn't even exist, And so

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I approached a company and I said how much would

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this cost? Remember I'm a grad student right now, master student,

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and I think the first thing they said was, well,

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we'll take a look at it for two hundred thousand.

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for some and like that, I'll let my big company

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handle it. And so I went through my my master's

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student and then my doctorate, and then after that I

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I was teaching and I decided to come back to it.

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I'm like, I saw a program that was doing something similar,

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and I thought, they're getting close. Maybe I'll ask them,

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right they would be willing to, and they said, you know,

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your idea is good, but there is no market for

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pianos pianos teachers. That hurts me mad because there is

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a market. It's my world like, and they're like, you know,

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there's just piano teachers everywhere. It's hard to the market

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to them and their students. So they said no. So

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I got mad. My wife and I decided to take

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a trip back to another company. Uh, and we asked them,

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is this possible for you guys to develop this? You

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guys have done some other things in the music realm,

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sure this is something new And they said, well, we

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think we might be able to do this. It'll be

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about six hundred thousand dollars out And so I don't

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know what was going through my wife's mind that we're

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sitting next to me, and I remember correctly, I looked

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at him and I said, we'll start next month. I'll

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have them. And I don't know if she swallowed her

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tongue said what are you going to tell a kid? Like?

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How would cliance this thing? But she was very, very supportive,

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and she's like, Okay, I guess we're doing this. So

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we went home and I started talking to friends and

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I told them business idea and they're like, you need

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to put this on on paper and make a business proposal.

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a proposal, and I came up with six hundred thousand

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dollars wonderful, and we went ahead, and you know, it's

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nineteen million dollars later is what it has cost us. Now,

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I didn't know what I was getting into, but I

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still had a passion to build this thing, and it

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was I didn't I did not know what I was

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getting into when I did it, but I never gave

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up because I saw a vision and I you know,

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it's been really fun to see it grow and to

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have the ability to dream something up. And now we

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have a thirty thirty person development team where I think

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seventeen full time developers where we can dream something up

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and have them go build it. And it's really fun

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to see that. And I have a passion and a

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dream that this we can have everybody on this planet

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be literate in music.

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I love that. I love that idea. I have so

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many questions for you to start out though, for our

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listeners out there, can you can you? How would I

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say this? Will you please share with us? If you

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were the student logging on to Piano Marvel, what would

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you what could you expect like? If you're the student,

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could you expect in the website? What would you what

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would be like? Do you have different programs? Do you

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have like time values? Do you have note reading? Do

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you have different levels? Again a lot.

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From from the person who's never used piano Marvel. What

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does it do?

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Yes?

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I have people ask me that question all the time.

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It's the one question that I have the hardest time.

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Like you would think I would be able to just

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this is what Piano Marvel is, this is what it does.

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It is so hard because we're a company that innovates

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so quickly on building new ideas to help learn learning

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to play the piano, that it's branching off into so

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many things that it does it's hard to say this

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is what it does. Okay, So now what I focus

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on is the site reading.

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Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah.

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So if somebody says, what does piano marvel? I say, well,

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it gives you feedback, instant feedback of an assessment which

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knows you played right and which ones you did wrong.

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But we built something called the SASSER. It's the standard

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Assessment of sight reading, which we came out with the

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idea in two thousand and nine and then started marketing it.

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The idea was you could sit down and take a test,

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play a song, and it would grade you and tell

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you what your score is, and decide if you could

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get a go to a harder song, and then a

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harder song, and it would push you to your limit,

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and that that limit, it would tell you your site

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reading score. Is this specifically a concrete site reading store,

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which nobody's ever done before. Okay, I'll go into a

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room of musicians and I'll say how many of you

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sit read? Well, how many of you are bad at

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site reading? And half the time the people who said

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I'm bad at sight reading are better than the ones

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who said they're good at sight reading because there's no

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concrete assessment of saying, here's how well I read. And

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so that's what the Sassar Standard Assessment of Site Reading

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was designed to do, is to say, any pianist in

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the world to sit down, take the test, and it

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would tell them from one hundred to nineteen hundred what

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their site reading score is. So if somebody came into

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a college and said you need to be at a

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nine hundred, you can actually go in and just practice

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your reading in Piano Marvel. So you get up to

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nine hundred, then you know you're ready to go in

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and audition for that school. And so a lot of

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schools are actually taking the SASSER that Standard Assessment of

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Site Reading and saying we expect you to be at

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this level before you can come in or what place

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you w in a class depending on your Sassar score.

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So that's one of the things that we've done with

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Piano Marvel. The other thing we've done so imagine a

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book like let's say you have a piano book and

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you've got song you're playing Mary had a little lamb

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learning how to do that, and then you go to

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the next song, play that what typically happens, and what

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I had done for my students is I would assign

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them two, three, four songs, and I say go home,

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practice them, come back, and then I'll listen to them.

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If they're good enough, I will sign it. Okay, I'll

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give you a smiley face and I'll write your name

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on it or initial or something, and then we'll move

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on to the next song. Listen to that, and I

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would pass it up for computer, pass it off for them.

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And so, in fact, a computer can tell you if

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you've missed the note, if you've missed the rhythm. And

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this is where I was spending like eighty percent of

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my time spoon fitting students saying here's the rhythm, No,

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let me help you with that. Oh, here's the wrong notes.

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Oh this is wrong, that's wrong. Eighty percent of your

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time is just getting get into their fingers, and then

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the fun begins once they get let's say they're playing

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the song. You know, a piano teacher, it takes eighty

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percent of your time just to get to that point.

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Then the fund begins to make it exciting. And so

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I thought, well, if I can get a computer to

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do what it does best, which just sit there and

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babysit and give feedback and it can sit and listen

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without getting tired, and then I can take that twenty

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percent of making it musical. So I do that full time.

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That's kind of what I had dreams is kind of

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separate the just the sitting and watching students practice from

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the musicality what humans do best, the artistry partner.

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I love that. Now, for we are live, there are

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listeners out there that are watching us, and then there

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are listeners out there that are just listening. So for

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those listeners out there that are just listening, how can

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they reach you your program? How can they find you quickly?

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Okay, go to piano marvel dot com and everything should

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be self explanatory. All they have to do piano marvel

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dot com on the website and you can try a

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free account. Everything is written on there, there's videos that

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explain it all. It's pretty self explanatory. If you're interested

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in learning piano, then get on there. There's even a

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contact us at piano marvel dot com email. Just send

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an email to contact us at piano marvel dot com.

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We have a great staff that will help if you

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have any technical problems or difficulties. That's one thing really

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nice about our company. We have Matt, so's that Josh.

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We've got a team that will help anybody who asks, Hey,

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how do I I'm trying this on my computer, I'm

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trying to get on my smartphone and I have this

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problem or I've got this question, even stuff like fingering,

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like I don't know how to do this fingering, And

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you know, our team will help you get through any

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of these questions that you have. It's a great tech

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support and support for any theory questions or anything you have.

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Awesome, thank you. So I want to talk a little

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bit more. We mentioned earlier, or we had conversation earlier

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about literacy, and I had actually a piano a few

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piano students earlier today and one of my older piano students.

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We're working and for our listeners out there, if you

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play piano, you'll know there's the travel claft, the bass cleft,

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the right hand, the left hand, and if you play

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a different instrument, it's a little different. But we're focusing

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on the piano. So with my older student and I

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make it, I try and use analogies, and I try

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and be silly, and so what I've said to all

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of my students, and I mean to disrespect anybody again,

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I'm being silly. Right hand. If you write with your

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right hand, it's easy to read the music and play

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playing with the left hand. Even for left hand writers,

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the left hand is the slower child, is what I say.

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And so we need to give it a little bit

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more attention, a little bit more love, because it needs

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it learns just a little bit slower. And that's okay.

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We're just gonna love it, love that left hand a

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little bit more so we can learn to play now.

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I was working with my student today and it somehow

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like I have this aha moment, and I thought, okay,

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first of all, and this wasn't just today, this has

465
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been my thing this past year. Let's focus first on

466
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.200
the left hand with reading music, because because the left

467
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:49.160
hand takes longer, let's give it that attention first. Because

468
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:51.839
the right hand, once it knows, it knows, and it's

469
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:57.440
just easier. So the brain has some way of having

470
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:03.079
of taking a longer time to understand reading the notes.

471
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.480
It's almost like a coordination. And I'm wanting to understand

472
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.079
and tap into this more. And maybe with your research

473
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.000
you can share a little bit with our listeners, like

474
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.440
that left hand learning to play the piano. No matter

475
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.720
who it is, it's the slower child, and it's just

476
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:24.440
the eye hand coordination. It just takes longer. What can

477
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.440
you tell us about your studies?

478
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.640
Oh, I love I love this because I've spent so

479
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.160
many years developing right hand and left hand coordination and

480
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.960
hand together coordination, and have gone through debates with many

481
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.559
many teachers on the different theories out there. Panna Marble

482
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:46.799
is really really designed well to help learn the coordination

483
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:50.359
between the hands. Okay, I don't know if you're if

484
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:53.039
you've ever heard this before, but they called the piano

485
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.240
the genius instrument.

486
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.720
Okay, I love that brains.

487
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.640
Are are up into two core cortexes, right, so you

488
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.319
get the right and the left hemisphere, and these are

489
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:10.960
combined in the middle by this this highway of information.

490
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:13.720
This goes back and forth training right and left, and

491
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.640
you're doing this with music all the time, and it's

492
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:23.759
extremely extremely complex. Well, this corpus colossum is what's called

493
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.519
the highway in between these two hemispheres. Did you know

494
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:33.240
that that studying an instrument is by far the best

495
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.960
way to develop the Corpus colossum. They haven't found any

496
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.559
other thing that can develop it as fast and efficiently

497
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.440
as studying an instrument, and particularly the piano because of

498
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.200
the complexity. And most other instruments you've got one note

499
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.200
and you've and you've got your fingers in one place

500
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.720
and you just play along and it's very difficult. But

501
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:01.279
when you combine that to piano through your hands play

502
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:07.200
not just one place, but I can play any hire keyboard,

503
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:12.200
it expands the complexity enormously. And so one day I

504
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:17.839
was at a at a middle school. My students are

505
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.960
actually they were. They were calling the kids with straight

506
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:22.640
a's that come out, and they're like, all right, all

507
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.759
the kids straight a's come out. And one kid, I'm like, hey,

508
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.480
that kid's my piano student. And they call the next kid.

509
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.359
I'm like, that kids my piano student. The next one

510
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:33.519
is my piano student. Like sixteen of the kids, nine

511
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.160
of them were my piano students. I'm like, wow, that's

512
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.640
really interesting. They were very straight A student. And I thought,

513
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:46.000
either pana makes you smart or only smart kids can

514
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:50.279
do piano. I don't know, I don't know what which

515
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:55.000
which is true, but it does develop the brain especially piano,

516
00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:01.079
so so well that I feel like every buddy, everybody

517
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.119
on the planet should really study it. For whatever you

518
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.359
go into, it's going to help you with everything your

519
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:13.160
brain development. Absolutely, it's a phenomenal thing. And piano Marvel

520
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:18.200
goes into like studying the left hand and the right

521
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.759
hand and systematically putting those things together so that it

522
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.000
doesn't feel like this monumental task. We have something that

523
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.920
we invented called the learn mode, where you go in

524
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.799
and you slowly learn one hand at a time, and

525
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.400
in just one section, it shows you to the red

526
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:40.400
and green notes and it gives you a score, and

527
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.440
then you just do it again and again until you

528
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:48.160
get it and it all teachers tell their students practice slow,

529
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:53.240
because if you practice slow, you will learn fast. Just listen. No,

530
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.880
why don't students listen because they're impatient. They don't want

531
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.720
to go slow. It's boring, it's hard, it's too much.

532
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.160
But if they would practice slow, if they were disciplined

533
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.559
to go slow and get it right, they would learn

534
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.079
so much faster. Anna Marvel is designed to do that

535
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.880
in tiny sections wherever rewards you. When you get one

536
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.920
hundred percent, then you move up a little faster, and

537
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.319
then a little faster, and then pretty soon you have

538
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.920
this section done really well with one hand. You do

539
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:22.920
the same thing with the other hand, and then you

540
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:28.640
put them together. And it's designed for professional practicing that

541
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.160
takes usually college students like four years to learn how

542
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.039
to practice professionally. It tricks them into learning right off

543
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.400
the bat. With all this research that we put into

544
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.759
this and the technology that we built to support it,

545
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.680
it's pretty It's been a very very fun project.

546
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.440
A couple of things I want to ask and want

547
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:52.200
to mention. I've been teaching over over twenty years and

548
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.279
I've been playing since I was five, and so this

549
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.799
is my life. I mean, I live and breathe. I mean,

550
00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.519
this is this is what I love to do, love

551
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:03.359
to play, to teach and so and even myself I'm

552
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.839
a student as well. I still like to take lessons.

553
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.519
As you met heard earlier, I still love to learn

554
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.519
being a teacher when I'm with my students, and I

555
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.079
remind myself of this when I get to play student

556
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:21.880
as well. When things get frustrating, stop kind of take

557
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:25.319
a break and look at it from a different perspective,

558
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:29.160
perspective and look at it like problem solving, like figur

559
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:31.599
it out, like, don't get frustrated with it, just like

560
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.640
stop and be like all right, let's let's take another

561
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:38.000
approach at this. And I love Piano Marvel. It's very

562
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:45.039
colorful and very interactive, and it works at each person's level,

563
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.720
so you don't have to feel like, oh, I'm just

564
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.640
a beginner or I'm so advanced, like it just works

565
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.880
where you're at, so there's no there's nobody there to

566
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.079
judge you, kind of like other than yourself. So for

567
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.960
listeners out there, you had mentioned piano Marvel dot com

568
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.039
is easy to connect with, and I also wanted to

569
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.679
mention that I know as a piano teacher, I have

570
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:12.440
students that lots of times pick hard pieces and they

571
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.280
were like, oh, well I want to learn this piece,

572
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.880
And I'll say, okay, well let's find you an easier

573
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:20.119
version to learn from and they're like, well, how long

574
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.199
is it going to take me to learn it? So

575
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:26.519
with Piano Marvel, with your teachings, what words of wisdom

576
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.320
can you share with our listeners as far as how

577
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:32.440
long it would take a piece to learn? And yes,

578
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.280
start with an easier version, not the harder version.

579
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:40.800
Yeah, that's actually very tricky. I don't know if piano

580
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.440
Marvel has the answer for that. And that's one reason

581
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:50.159
that having a piano teacher is super super valuable because

582
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.320
the piano teacher can assess a student and say, this

583
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.360
piece it's your personality and I know your ability to

584
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.480
this song such your personality too, but it will kill

585
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:07.119
you and you will quit music, even if it's their

586
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.800
favorite song in the world, like they you know, it's

587
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.360
their pop song that they love. You're like, I've seen

588
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.639
students do it before. They're going to try it and

589
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:16.599
it's going to kill them. They're going to quit. You

590
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.559
have to get the right level with with that with

591
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.760
that student, and you have to get the right piece

592
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.119
for the student that's going to keep them motivated. It's

593
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.039
that's maybe one of the hardest things about being a

594
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.920
teacher is just like finding the right piece and that'll

595
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.239
fit with students. And there's so many pieces out there

596
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.360
that's as dangerous to learn as far as how long

597
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.360
it takes a person to learn. That can also be

598
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.639
very tricky. You know, I talked about the learn method

599
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:48.639
that learns interesting. It has a section in piano level

600
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:50.440
where you can start, Let's say you're learning for a

601
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:56.679
least Okay, the first part. It will say, okay, learn

602
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:03.400
that left hand and to start there, and it gives

603
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:06.400
you a percentage completion when you finish it, because you

604
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.000
are now three percent complete learning the song. So if

605
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.239
you spent five minutes doing that, you can do the

606
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.239
math and say, oh, I'll be done by the end

607
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.039
of next week. And so it does help you kind

608
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.079
of get a feel for, wow, I'm learning this fastard

609
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:22.840
than I thought I would because it breaks it up

610
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:27.400
into learning sections. What I noticed it doesn't do is

611
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:32.119
like sometimes students get stuck on that that are here,

612
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.360
and they'll spend for forty minutes trying to figure out

613
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.199
that pattern in their hand and they're like, I just

614
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.440
can't coordinate my hand, and then they realize once they

615
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.639
get it, the rest of the song is just a

616
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.639
repeat of similar patterns, and so then they feel like, oh,

617
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:49.920
it took me, I only got three percent of the

618
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.199
way done and took me forty minutes and take me forever.

619
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.400
But they don't realize what's coming up next in the

620
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.119
song is a lot of repetition, so even that can

621
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.440
be misleading to then you need a piano teacher to

622
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.320
say let me, let me show you what's coming up

623
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.400
in the future, so you can, you know, feel that

624
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.960
motivation if you see a student slipping in that motivation,

625
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.760
and so I would I would highly highly recommend piano

626
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:19.320
teacher or a parent who can be that guide and

627
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.400
that motivation and you got to stick to it because

628
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.119
learning piano is hard. And even even with piano Marvel

629
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:29.400
that makes it fun. I guess what, it's still hard.

630
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:30.239
It still work.

631
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.679
Yeah, but the genius instrument and why it's so good

632
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.079
on your brain is because it's hard. It's not like

633
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:39.840
watching Netflix, which is really easy, and that's what everybody does.

634
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:41.519
And so we're just getting stupider.

635
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.159
So well, we have a couple a few more minutes.

636
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.199
I want to ask, Okay, I'm gonna refer to my

637
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.960
my approach and then you can you can help me

638
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.760
with this. So when I teach, I focus on Let's

639
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:58.760
say one of my students is working on a hard

640
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:02.159
piece and it's a five page piece. I like to

641
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:06.599
focus on chunking, right, So all right, So let's say

642
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.880
Bobby knows how to play the beginning like he doesn't

643
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.360
even need to sheet music anymore. So I'll say a right,

644
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:17.000
let's let's kind of leave that alone, and so let's

645
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.079
fload to different areas of the song. If you have,

646
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.760
you know, ten minutes a day, go sit at the

647
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:26.000
piano and pick an area of chunking, just to practice

648
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:28.840
out that song, almost like taking a puzzle apart. Just

649
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.400
work on puzzle pieces and called which I call chunking,

650
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:35.960
which in the music world is called chunking. So but

651
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.039
leave the beginning alone because you already know that. And

652
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:42.840
the more you play the beginning and you're so good

653
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:44.400
at it, you're not gonna want to learn the rest

654
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.960
of the song because you're just gonna get so frustrated

655
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.599
because it's going to take longer than the rest. So

656
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:53.800
how does piano marvel come along and say, okay, the beginning,

657
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.960
you've got the beginning, let's focus on like your your

658
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:02.599
challenging measures. Does it have a way because it's a computer,

659
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:03.559
it's not the teacher.

660
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.519
Fact, this is what the piano marble is designed to do,

661
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:11.480
is the chunking. We call it slicing. So slicing you

662
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:14.480
go into a chop slicing or a mint slicing, and

663
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.039
it does that. It takes every piece and once you

664
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.559
finish it it goes to the next section and then

665
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.960
the next section, so you're not just wasting time only

666
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.599
working on the part you're good at. You're because you've

667
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:28.840
already got the gold star on that one. And then

668
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.280
it does a review, so it comes back to those

669
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.360
those pieces and putting them all together. So it's really

670
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.679
really amazing. How I would say, different piano teachers have

671
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.159
told me, if you're learning a piece, this makes helps

672
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:48.559
you learn it four to five times faster than if

673
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.599
you don't have that chunking system that Piano Marble has

674
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.639
with the interactive assessment. And so once you get the

675
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.679
golden star or that golden you get one hundred percent,

676
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.079
it gives you a little star that's gold. Once you

677
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.039
get that and you move on to the next thing.

678
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.400
That keeps you from just sticking around just doing the

679
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.119
same thing over and over, and you move on to

680
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:10.159
the next part.

681
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.000
Next part, next part, right, And that's I mean, that's

682
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.320
what I tell my students. I'm like, there's a difference

683
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.159
between practice and performance. If you're going to practice, you're

684
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.440
practicing parts of the song. You don't always want to

685
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.280
sit at the piano and just play beginning to the

686
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:27.400
part where you get frustrated, and then you're like, all right,

687
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.119
I'm done for today. You want to focus on the

688
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.440
different areas that are more challenging to smooth them out.

689
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.239
And I've done some studying myself where they've said, I please,

690
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.480
I'm open to your feedback. But some of the studying

691
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:47.679
I've done is your brain doesn't when you're chunking and

692
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:49.800
when you're like going to page five and then jump

693
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.440
into page three, your brain is not looking for the

694
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.519
order of it. Like you can memorize the beginning and

695
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.960
in your mind you might know how popular song goes

696
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:03.480
that you're playing, but when you're practicing it, your brain

697
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:07.519
doesn't need to know that because it's am I making sense?

698
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:07.840
Could you?

699
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:08.320
Yeah?

700
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:14.800
Because I've spent thousands and thousands of hours practicing and teaching,

701
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.840
and so I've I understand you know, the mechanics that

702
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.360
go behind it. What we try to do with piano

703
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.760
Marvel is we take all that research and we build

704
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.400
it in so it's so you don't have to know

705
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.239
all the research. It just feeds you the next thing

706
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.199
in the order that makes your body learn the song,

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so that when you finish through this learning mode, you

708
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can go through and play through the song seamlessly without

709
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any problem. It's it's fascinating to like all the research

710
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:49.400
that that goes behind the scenes inside it.

711
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.840
Yeah, and so it's pianomarvel dot com. And what I

712
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.079
also love about your program is that you don't need

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00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:59.119
a book, you don't need papers. As a music teacher,

714
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.239
I have so many songs, songs and so many books

715
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:05.559
that yeah, I'm thankful for them, but it's it takes

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up space.

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So I personally do like the paper. I usually print

718
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the songs that I'm learning.

719
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.920
Yeah, I do too, which we do.

720
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.400
Allow the printing of music, okay, except for on pop songs.

721
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.360
You have to actually pay extra for the pop songs

722
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.360
because we have a contract with Helenoard and Alfred and

723
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:27.519
all the music publishers.

724
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:32.760
Okay, So we have again just a couple of minutes left.

725
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Are there any words or any any advice or short

726
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.039
story that you'd like to share with our listeners that

727
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.079
have been with us today learning more about piano Marvel.

728
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I do have something to ask, and I applaud you

729
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:54.599
because you are a music advocate. The music helps our mind,

730
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our bodies. Every career we go into music just builds

731
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:04.639
us and is enjoyable, it's hard, and so sometimes it's

732
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.559
not funded in schools, they'll cut the music program not

733
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:14.719
understanding what they're doing. Like, so anybody who's listening, please

734
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.840
be a music advocate and help others understand how powerful

735
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that studying music really is in every aspect of our life.

736
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.880
It's so true, so true, and it's it developed so

737
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:34.360
many disciplinary how would you say it? It just helps

738
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.239
form so much in other areas of our life, like

739
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.599
you said, and discipline is one of them. It just

740
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.199
helps structure your your thinking, your your way of being.

741
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And as a musician, it's just I don't know why

742
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:54.760
why anybody wouldn't would you want to learn a music instrument,

743
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:57.239
especially piano because it's black and white, it's easy to

744
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:03.880
look at where your your your neck is kind of

745
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:08.039
like tilted. So it's just the piano, if I could

746
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:12.440
be partial, it's the piano to learn on. As you know, Eric,

747
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.519
thank you so much for being on the show today.

748
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:16.360
Thanks Lisa.

749
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Yeah, and I will continue to rave about piano marvel

750
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and share that with my students, and thank you. I

751
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.280
think I might take a gander back into it myself

752
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:28.519
and and go.

753
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.760
Get your site reading tests see what see what your

754
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:31.760
SEIT reading score is.

755
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:35.760
Yeah, a little complex, But this year.

756
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.280
I'm going to take it every single week and I'm

757
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:41.039
going to pass twelve hundred this year. That's my goal.

758
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:43.880
Okay, yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to go on there

759
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.159
and I might, like I said, I might have.

760
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Your first day. Then just know you're better than me.

761
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.719
Well I don't know about but thank you eron and

762
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.599
we'll keep in touch. And if there's anything you else

763
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:03.000
you want to share with me, thank you email and

764
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.400
I'll be more than happy to help promote and to

765
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:10.000
keep you guys, you know, to keep all musicians and

766
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.679
all music a lot. That's my purpose here is that

767
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.079
we got to keep this going because this is what's real,

768
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:18.880
not AI, not not you know. AI is great for

769
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.559
a lot of things, I guess, but but you you

770
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.800
can't a human. You can have the instrument, but without

771
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.679
the human being bringing it to life, it doesn't there's

772
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:29.559
no life.

773
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:32.039
In it, and it doesn't feed. It doesn't feed the

774
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:36.159
soul to just watch a computer work. What feeds the

775
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:40.519
soul is us developing ourselves and watching our children develop

776
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:41.800
their talents.

777
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.519
Yes, it's it's an investment that keeps on giving. Yes,

778
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:52.639
thank you so much, Aaron, thank you well, take care, Guye.

779
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.079
Thank you so much for tuning in today. And we

780
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had Aaron Garner on from Piano Marvel pianomarvel dot com.

781
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.199
Check it out. It is a great program. There's a

782
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.760
from what I remember, there was a thirty day free

783
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.079
trial to check out and kind of see what it's

784
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.639
all about. And no matter where you are in the world,

785
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:20.320
you can find it online. And in the meantime, I'm

786
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.519
going to play a little bit here and just want

787
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:26.199
to remind you that the reason I do this again

788
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is help me keep music alive because music is beautiful.

789
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:36.599
It's all around us. I mean really, sound is vibration,

790
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:48.639
it's energy, and we all vibrate from energy. The more

791
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:53.480
we tap into sound and vibration, higher our well being is.

792
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.760
I look forward to next week's show. Tune in you

793
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.480
can find out who my guest is.

794
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:21.440
Thanks that for next week.

795
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Thank you for being here with me today. I'm glad

796
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you are here.