March 2, 2026

The Sound of Gold with guest Christopher Maloney

The Sound of Gold with guest Christopher Maloney
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Season 1

Guest today is Christopher Maloney! A talented musician, teacher, Director,  Producer, Songwriter, and more. Chrus is aldo the founder of Practice Warriors, an online music podcast and classes.Tune in today as Chris expresses his love for music and the many ways he inspires his audiences near and far.

The Sound of Gold is broadcast live Mondays at 4PM ET / 1PM PT on K4HD Radio - Hollywood Talk Radio (www.k4hd.com) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com). The Sound of Gold TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com).

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Hi, welcome to the Sound of Gold. It's good to

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have you back, and I'm excited to be here. As always,

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Welcome to the Sound of Goals. Our focus is on music, musicians,

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music teachers, music schools, music venues, and anything that has

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to do with music. I'm here in my home studio

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at my piano, and we are in the second season

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of The Sound of Gold, and in the season I

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probably will mention this other shows. Stay tuned towards the

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end of the show. I have a little bit of

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a surprise of playing a little bit more for you

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than I have in the first season. So I'm excited

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about that. But even more so, I am so excited

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about having the guests that I have to welcome today.

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And not only is this person a dear friend, a

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fabulous musician, and gosh, there's so many there's I believe

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we are each a tree with many branches. And this

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guest that I've invited to join with us today is

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not only did in one or two ways, but he

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is this tree with many branches. And I would like

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to welcome my dear friend, Christopher Maloney.

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Oh my gosh, what am I doing here?

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Hi, Christopher?

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I was having lunch with some friends. And how long

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here on the screen? What happened? I feel like Mike

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TV from Holy WALKA.

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Welcome, welcome, it's been I was trying. I was thinking

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of it before our call today. And we have to

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know each other over ten years. I don't even know

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how long we know each other.

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I think it was fifty years we served together in

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the Ford administration. Those were some while times, you know,

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seventy six to eighty. I remember, Well, it's yep, it's

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definitely been a while.

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Yes, it has been, and I have I don't know

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if you can see I know from my viewers, my

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audience viewers, you can see us. And then for my listeners,

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I have my cat sitting on my bench and she's

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the grandma of my group, and so she's just shedding everywhere,

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So it's like floating in the air here.

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But you know that the term shedding is kind of

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interesting with the music show because shedding is, as you know,

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a term for a period of intense practicing. So if

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I'm like, all bad, I've been shedding on this song

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for like two weeks. So your cat is just continuing

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on with the whole music thing.

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Oh yeah, she's all about it, all about it. So Christopher,

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I know. I remember Absolute Music Studios in Jupiter, Florida.

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You and your wife were the presidents of that school

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and such a huge influence here in Jupiter and Florida

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and all southern Florida. And you were in Florida out

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you're in Portugal. And not only did you make an

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impact here and influence so many students, so many performers,

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even to the point of getting or or supporting them

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on the Voice. We have some friends in common that

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have been on the Voice. Not only have you made

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your impact here, you're making an impact in Portugal. And

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you are not only a musician, a singer, songwriter, was

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or studio owner. I mean, I can keep going on

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and on. I did some more research. You were you

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were backstage pass you. You know, you have albums, you've recorded,

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You've just recorded a new album. Do you I have

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a question, do you ever get to sleep at all?

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Yeah? Usually when I'm driving, really great, really great opportunity

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to catch up on some z's. You know, I have

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a couple of meals. Fortunately I don't drive anymore, uh,

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because I don't need to hear. But yeah, I spent

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my time between between my old and Jupiter and kind

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a place here in Portugal. And yeah, it's a blessing

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and curse because there's a lot of great things to do.

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There's a lot of fun things to do. There's a

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lot of things I really want to do. Pardon me,

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I have a little tickle my throat which is not

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going away, No worries, Sorry about that, radio viewers. But

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but the curses, you know, when when do you have

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time to do it all?

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True? True, you've done so much you just well, let's

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start with now. You've just recently finished an album called

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Lost and Found. And for those of you that want

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to listen to Christopher's recent work, it's on YouTube Boston

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Found Christopher Maloney.

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Yeah, we we, we did. There's eleven songs on the record,

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so every song got its own music video that we recorded,

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and there was a couple there were more performance based,

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so we actually also released performance only versions of those

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where I'm playing all the instruments and yep. So the

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music videos are on YouTube and then my three solo albums.

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You can find them wherever wherever people's stream music.

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Okay, now I have a question for you. I got

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to review some of your I mean, I know you,

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but I re reviewed some of your work and I

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watched some of the videos listen to a lot of

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the lyrics, and I don't know, maybe you can elaborate

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on this. Loston found. I got the sense from some

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of the lyrics. And again I'm not there with you,

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and I'm not a part of the lyrics, but I'm

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what I'm understanding is that the lyrics are really telling

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me you've gone through this transformation, this transformation and it

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as a writer, I'm gonna kind of go zig As

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a writer, I've written work before, songs or books, and

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you know, it's really very healthy to take this like

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introverted route tom speaking for myself for healing, and I know,

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like some of the books I've written has really helped

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me in that way. So with that being said, going

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back to you and your album Lost and Found, what

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can you tell us what transpired, like what inspired you

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to share what you did and why.

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That's a great question. I appreciate you asking it. I mean,

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the first two solo albums I did, and they were,

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you know, twenty years ago. They were very transformational periods

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of my life, very challenging periods, and I thought there

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were very therapeutic albums, and people who listened to it

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found a lot of emotional depths in those. But in

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all honesty, Lost and Found had been written over about

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a ten year period in time where I really wasn't

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creating a lot of new music, and although a lot

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of the lyrics did come come later, as they usually

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do with me, but I will say that the album,

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because the first two albums are are definitely conceptual albums.

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They literally tell a story or there is a an

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intentional common thread, and I was kind of bumm that

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lyrically this album wasn't going to do it. But as

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the song's progressed and as the subject matter came, and

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as I was putting the lyrics together, I did absolutely

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notice the common thread. And you're absolutely right it's transformational.

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Every song has some sort of of either transformation or

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a recognition of grace, you know, either seeing someone else's

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grace and wanting to aspire to that, or you know,

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being in the middle. You know, I'm not the man

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I used to be. I'm not the man I'm gonna be,

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So I just sit here in the middle, lost and found.

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You know. That's like and every song, as I looked

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at it after the fact, was about some form of grace,

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appreciating some place you want to be, giving yourself forgiveness,

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wanting to extend grace to people you don't really want

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to give it to. So it was all there. But

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it was interesting. It was never unlike the first two records.

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It was not intentional at all. So it was kind

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of a cool like byproduct of compiling. Maybe it was

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just the fact that the lyric writing did come together

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in a shorter period of time than the music did

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because I had you know, a lot of these songs

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were sort of like if you listen to the record,

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a lot of the musical bits were recorded six years ago,

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seven years ago, but the vocals obviously were all recorded

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just last year. And then of course there were a

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couple of songs where the lyrics weren't done, you know,

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so it was like I wait to the last minute,

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and so yeah, I think that it could have been

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that sort of similar mind space. But yeah, I am

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glad that looking back, it's like, yeah, it's there. Is

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that that proponent of grace And I appreciate you you

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recognizing that. It's always cool when someone creates something for

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someone else to recognize and you're like.

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All right, right now, you had mentioned I read some

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of your posts today as well, not that I haven't

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seen him before, but it really hit home. You were

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sitting at a bar, you're in Portugal, you're having a beer,

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You're hearing this song, and then you're like, oh, wait

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a minute, I wrote that song.

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That's yeah, that was that was that was yeah, that

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was That was surreal. That was really strange. And it

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wasn't a song that was a single. It was a

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very deep album track. And it's funny. I didn't hear

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the song up until the bridge. So the bridge is

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an instrumental. It's kind of a progressive rock thing, and

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so I didn't hear the first two verses, first two

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yeah We're my or I'm singing but so that was

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the weird part of it too, Like, wait a minute,

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I don't know how many beers I am, but I

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think it was just the first one. So I can't

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believe it on that. But that was a very cool thing,

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and it did. It did bring me back to you

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know again your your great point about lyrics and writing

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and trying to heal yourself and transformation. You know, that

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album came out in two thousand and two. It was

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written around two thousand and one, very challenging time. If

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the two thousand and two me saw the twenty twenty

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sixth well at the time of twenty twenty five me,

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I think he would have been like, Okay, we got

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through this. I think we got through this. If the

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twenty twenty five met saw the guy a quarter of

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a century ago, guy would have put his arm right. Look, man,

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he got more to go through. But here we are.

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We got through it. We get through everything, and let's

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just let's just again just try to extend that race.

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Sure, sure, thank you so, Christopher. A lot of my

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listeners are maybe into music, or thinking about getting involved

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in music, or maybe afraid to take that step or

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that skip with that in mind, I've come to terms.

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Maybe maybe it's an age thing. I don't know, but

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value is not about how much money you have in

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the bank. Value is about what you invest in yourself

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and how you how you bring that forward and be creative.

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You are one of the most successful people I know.

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You are one of the most valued friends. Well you're

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my friend anyway. But you put so much time and

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energy into your talent and into your your craft. Can

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you give our listeners, whether they're watching or listening, you

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could you share with us kind of what your journey's

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been like up to now, and there's so much maybe

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you could just kind of ate us through it.

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Oh, well said, Well said Lisa, And I'm gonna I'm

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gonna have to hire you as my is my hype man.

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And for that, that's very kind words of you for

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you to say. You know, basically, I just played because

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I wanted to place thirteen years old MTV. You know,

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it was big at the time. I got to see

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people playing Oh bass. Bass is my primary instrument, it

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always will be, and and I just got excited about it.

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And I already i'd already quit two instruments. You know,

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I tried to recorder and I quit. I tried the

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drums and I quit, And so there was no blueprint

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about me, you know, doing this ever, And it was

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just I found the instrument that spoke to me. It's

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a strange instrument bass guitar. You know, it's on pianos,

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not singing, it's not guitar. It's not even drums, you know. Ooh,

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you know fun with this. You know, it's bass. It's weird.

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this thing? And uh, but it just spoke to me.

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is that if you did not have success with learning

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music at one point, you may have chosen the wrong instrument.

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is that maybe it wasn't the right time for you.

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me a bass guitar. I had to buy my own

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two of them, the first two in my own paper

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root money. So you know, I have a lot of

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adult students, and I've talked to a lot of adults,

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and they always lament, God, I wish I did this sooner. Oh.

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I quit when I was this, and I always tell

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them the same thing. Your time is not so whenever

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you come to your instrument, whenever you find it, whenever

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you decide to work hard on it and commit to it,

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that's the perfect time. And I appreciate you talking about talent,

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but I don't have talent. I don't. It was really

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just making a decision of I'm gonna work hard at this.

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be in a band but to be a session musician,

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I knew I had to be able to do anything

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anyone asked, and so I really committed myself to building,

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you know, my skills as high as I could. And

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and starting to sing, oh, I was horrible at all

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of that, and I didn't start that stuff till my twenties.

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no you, yeah you do. You're not good, but you

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weren't good at base and now you are at a

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very high level, so you're not good at this. You're

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not good at that, so just apply yourself and be patients, practice,

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persist patience. Those are the three things and that's always

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really important to remember.

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as a music teacher myself and a performer, and I

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mean this is music is my life. I mean I

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have family too, but you know, music is in my

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veins as as it is with you, and it's it's

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a consistency, and you know, I think, I don't know,

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maybe you can relate to this. When I was growing up,

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I always thought, oh, you know, let's like like a child,

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we we do something, really we get bored, we go

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on to something else. But I found that the more

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you're consistent with something and grow on that, you you nurture,

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the the education you nurture, the the commitment you nurture,

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the the focus, and it helps you in so many

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different areas of your life.

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you know this as well as anyone.

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took a four year break from doing it because after

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Absolute Music and we started Practice Warriors, I needed a break.

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I had been teaching in some capacity for like thirty

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five years, and so it's nice to take that time

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off and I'm actually getting back into it. And I

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always tell people, you know, just think about something that

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you were not good at, but fishing, skating, public speaking,

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building a house, you know, whatever. But we all have

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our own skills, accounting, I mean, whatever it is, and

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just just look back at what you how you were

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then and how you are now in the incremental steps

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and then thats apply that grace to you and be

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gentle with yourself during this process. And remember or that

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every great musician that you hear has gone through exactly

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what you're going through. Now. Nobody rolled out of bed

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and could shred on the guitar, you know. And even

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the great singers, they they all train. One of my

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good buddies, Ken Stacy. Ken's a great singer. He's singing.

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He's the lead singer of Ambrosia for about ten years.

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He was Michael Jackson's backup singer when he you know,

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for this is in tour when he when he died,

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and you know, he's worked with Elton John all these people. Well,

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Ken has been Kenny Logan's vocal coach for the last

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five year. Kenny Logins like this guy since nineteen seventy

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he's got one of the best voices in pop and

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he's still taking lessons to this day. So just I'm like, wow, okay,

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I just sort of thought, you know, you just had

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a gift. But even the best folks are always looking

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to grow, develop, and sometimes maintain well, you know, especially

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when it comes to voice. So just just realize that.

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Just throw away the word talent and just go all right,

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Like you said, I want to apply myself and I've

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been successful in one thing, so I will just be

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patient with this other thing. And you know, try to

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try to measure growth in long periods of time. So

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if you take like three or four lessons, that's a

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fool's errand commit yourself to a minimum of like three

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to six months. Yeah, and that's where as you you know,

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that's where you're going to start to see big, big growth.

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I tell my students and I personally still take lessons

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after forty five years of playing, I still take lessons

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because there's always as a musician, there's always something more

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to learn. There's always a different respective, there's always maybe

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that these are a little bit metaphors for life in general.

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You know, there's there's always something to be better at.

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There's always something. I had Avery Summers on my show

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last week and I was saying, you know, it's almost

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like we are our own greatest competition. It's always like

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we got to up up the ante, like we have

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to up the last show, the last performance, and it's

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really not so much for the audience, but it's for

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ourselves because the more we have to give, the greater.

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It's not success, it's the greater I would say accomplishment.

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But I feel like the greater we can give to

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our audience, the greater, the greater we can share our

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gifts with the audience. Yeah.

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I think that's a great way to put Lisa. I mean,

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it's it's really you just you just want to do

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what you want to do. You know, you want to

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have the facility to to write the way you want

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to write, and to play the way you want to play,

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and to to share it with people. And and you

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you mentioned something earlier that I thought was really really

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cool that you know, when you when you can apply

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yourself and build skills musically, you do start to think

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like if I could do that, what else can I do?

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What else can I apply myself towards? If I can

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make a stick with some strings sound good, or a

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box with some keys, you know, like sound good? That

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isn't can I really kind of do anything? I mean,

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all I gotta do is practice and be consistent with it,

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and persist in my practicing and be patient and so yeah,

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I mean I've done all you mentioned backstage past, which

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is yeah, that's a dip into the past. That was

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a TV pilot I shot and my friend Glenn Hughes,

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the former bass player and singer with a deep purple

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was was my guest. And you know, I I saw

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it inside their studio thought it was a great show, right,

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And I thought, why do we have anything like this

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for musicians? And I thought, okay, well, I teach at

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this school. I've got these camera facilities. It was there

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in Hollywood, California. I know these people, and so we

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shot that pilot. I had no knowledge of video editor,

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I had no idea how to do any of it.

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I just had the idea and I just did it.

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like three cameras. I had like a janky camera of

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my own, getting like the audience shots, and so then

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I got like all this footage and I didn't know

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how to edit it. So I took a lesson and

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I hired a UCLA film student or something, and we

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got together for like two hours and I said, show

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me how to put this together, and he did, and

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then I and there you go. And so then after

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I did that, I'm like, well, geez, I'm in one

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of these bands. I think we can do a concert DVD.

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So more skills, we think that thing. We sell it

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all over the world. So it's like you get these

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ideas in your mind, you just go, well, I wanted

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I want to do it. So whether it's I want

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to play this kind of a song, but I'm not

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good enough to do it, well, let me build those skills.

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Oh I have an idea to write a book. You've

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written two books for what I know, so like, oh, well,

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let me see how to do it. So it's it's

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again coming back to what you said. Life is all

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about learning and life is all about growing. And I

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think people who say you know, well kind of figured

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it all out it's a it's a drug because you're

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kind of missing out in some good things.

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Yes, you have to mention to our audience Practice Warriors.

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You have some great interviews on there presently and some

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great lessons to really to really get involved with and

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follow along with. I haven't. I still get emails. I

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think I do, or I did for a while. I

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get I get so many emails now. But yes, so

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for our listeners, Practice Warriors, yeah, you just there.

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Practice Warriors came about because it was one of these

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things of like dealing with so many students, and I

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had always dealt with professional students, like like folks who

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were in like a top music school they were going

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to go on to play with. Uh you know some

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of my students thirty seconds to Mars Jay z Rihanna

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litz Fair. Those guys are motivating, they're ready to rock.

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But then when I started working with hobbyists and people

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who just wanted to do it for fun, I noticed

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a similarity in their what we've been talking about this

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great conversation, their lack of motivation, inspiration, you know, their

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negative associations with what they were able to do. So

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I basically created a class to teach people how to practice,

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how do you actually practice, what do you practice? Worry

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do you practice? Why do you practice? How long should

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you practice? And so yeah, I developed a masterclass at

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practice warriors dot com. And then to make it a

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little more interesting, I interviewed all these different musicians and

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people who have music careers and basically just said, what

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did you do when you were upset about your planning?

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What did you do when you felt like you weren't

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getting better? So I think it's a nice little place

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for musicians to come learn great practice strategies, get inspired.

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And yeah, it was a really great thing to put together.

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Now I want to ask you. I don't know, we're

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probably going to have to have another show, but for you, okay,

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you record, you just recorded another album. You perform. I

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don't know what Porsch feels like. I haven't been there,

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but you have performed on stage, You've been to LA,

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You've you've gotten in that arena. How what can you

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share with their audience to say how.

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Do you do that?

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Like?

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How do you do you just show up and be

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like hey, I'm I'm you know, going to sing and

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play here? I mean, can you give us an in

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on how we go about doing that.

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Oh that's a great question. I guess it just depends

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on what you do. You know, when I was younger,

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I was a bass player, and so I basically needed

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a band. So I would, you know, find bands through

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high school connections. My private teachers knew, you know, their students.

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When I went to college, there was a whole plethora

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of people to play with. But then when I decided, Okay,

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I'm going to be a musician full time, I moved

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to Los Angeles and I decided and I went to

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music school there, Musicians Institute, and so for there it

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was a lot of networking, meeting people, letting people know

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I was available. People would hire me to play in

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their bands. I had some projects, but I was really

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like a gun for hire. That's what I wanted to do.

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So I did that. I when I was in LA

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for almost twenty years, and yeah, SO did that and

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taught as well. You know what I what at that time,

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maybe seven years into it, I wanted to put out

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my own records and sing and sing, and so what

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I did is I I had a little pa. So

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I went to a local bar that like a a

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total dive bar, and I said, what's your worst night?

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They said, Monday night is terrible. I go, great, I'm

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gonna come in and sing every Monday night for two hours.

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and that really helped get my my uh my skills together.

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And then I just going around to all these open

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mic nights to do like, oh I could warm up

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doing two hours, but how do I sound if I

464
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.440
just have one song and I have a crap pa

465
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:08.400
or you know whatever. So you know, for that instance,

466
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:10.759
I almost had to go back words because I had

467
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:13.359
already you know, tour to play with all these people,

468
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.480
and now I'm doing like open mics. But I recognize

469
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.839
that that was like training. I was like going back

470
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.200
for training. And so you know, when I when I

471
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.000
you know, when I come here to Portugal, it's you know,

472
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.599
I got to meet some local jazz musicians. Those are

473
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.480
the ones I met first, and I played jazz for

474
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:36.039
for many years, and so they're like, well, come and

475
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.599
play with us and do this and that. So right

476
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.480
now I don't do a lot of life playing. I

477
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:44.319
just finished this record and now I'm doing some uh

478
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.880
some music for Discovery Network. Some of the shows there

479
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:53.359
so it's really great. It's very, very challenging, but it's it.

480
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:56.400
But it's lonely too, you know. It's it's always important

481
00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.440
to try to get out, play with people, play for people.

482
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.480
So it is a good balance. I'm not altogether sure

483
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.119
I answered your question is the way the way you attended,

484
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.160
but I hope it helps. So look, if whatever you do,

485
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.559
you just got to find avenues to do it. If

486
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:16.839
you want to sing songs, there's open mic nights, jam nights.

487
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.680
If you play drugs or bass or any other rhythm

488
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.640
section instrument, you got to find a band. You know,

489
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.119
you just got to get out there. Talk to local

490
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:28.920
music teachers, private music teachers. They're a great source.

491
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.559
Yes, I agree, And just get out there. And the

492
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:35.119
only person that limits us is ourselves. So you know

493
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:38.000
as well as I do. We've had students that, oh, yeah,

494
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.599
I'd like to play piano, but I gave it up

495
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.480
when I was a kid. Yeah I can't do that.

496
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.960
Yes you can. It's just a matter of making the commitment,

497
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:50.319
sticking to it, and having the discipline to practice and

498
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.680
put the time in. And you know what there is

499
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:57.039
I've learned, and I also teach this with practicing. It

500
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.319
can be very frustrating when we don't know live in

501
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.400
this microwave society, this Amazon dot com. I want it

502
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.839
like in the middle of the night, you know. Package.

503
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.160
The greatest gift being a musician, I'll speak for myself,

504
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.440
is that the more focus and the more time I

505
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:19.240
put into playing a piece I'm playing a piece actually

506
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.799
that's not my own, it really helps me focus and

507
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.400
makes me. It branches off, as I said earlier, branches

508
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.200
off into different areas of my life because I'm more direct.

509
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:35.839
I'm more like on on key so and then playing

510
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:38.880
my own stuff. Then it's uh, you know this too.

511
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:43.240
When you're a musician, you have grown in your craft.

512
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.680
You get in the zone. And when you're in the zone,

513
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.839
that's not really something you can explain. You just go

514
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.079
there and you play, and it's almost a gift you

515
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.079
give yourself. But you have to start with the foundations.

516
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:58.839
Yeah, and I think you know you've You've been alluding

517
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.519
to this a few times. Is you gotta have the

518
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.119
faith that your effort's gonna equal reward. I think that's

519
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.920
the biggest challenge. If people could only see themselves six

520
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.200
months in advance and where they would be and what

521
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.680
they would be able to do. You know, they would

522
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.559
be like, Oh, that's how good I'm gonna be. Shoot,

523
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.160
I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna practice twice as hard.

524
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.440
It's that disc It's like, you know, you're three weeks

525
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.200
into it and your fingers are still not independent on

526
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.279
the keyboard, or you're blowing into the horn you sound

527
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.160
like a suicidal duck, or your fingers are still earning

528
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.279
the guitar, you know, and it's like you just you

529
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.720
just never think it's gonna work for you. And then

530
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.319
you start saying all that bs about oh I don't

531
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:47.799
have talent. Oh it's not for me. I'm not skilled.

532
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.880
I got a tenier, I have sausage fingers, you know,

533
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:55.279
all these things about your deficiencies. It's like, no, you

534
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.680
will get better. I know you don't see it now,

535
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.839
but you will. And then as soon as you do it,

536
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.599
six months goes by. Then, like you're saying, then you

537
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:09.599
get in the zone and you're like, holy cow, because

538
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.599
this happens a lot. Someone will be playing something and

539
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.799
they'll be doing a good job, and I'll go, you know,

540
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.759
like a month ago, you couldn't play that. You thought

541
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:22.480
that was hard and they go, well, no, it's not hard,

542
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:26.160
it's easy. I'm like, well, a month ago it was hard,

543
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.079
and now you're saying it's easy. So is it EASi

544
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.359
or hard? And they're like, well, I thought it was hard,

545
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.240
but I guess it's easy. And I go, well, how

546
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.480
about the fact that it wasn't hard or easy because

547
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.559
it didn't change. All that it was is that it

548
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:44.480
was unfamiliar. You worked on it, it became more familiar, so

549
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.200
you thought it was hard. And so basically, anything that

550
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.119
you think is hard is just something you need to

551
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.519
be more familiar with. When you get more familiar with it,

552
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:55.839
then you can do it.

553
00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:01.640
Absolutely, absolutely and the greatest gift that any musician can

554
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.119
give themselves. And if you are thinking about starting to

555
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:09.119
play an instrument, you are considered a musician. So when

556
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:15.440
you apply yourself, remember we're human beings. Our greatest I

557
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.240
guess well, I don't know how to say, I don't

558
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:24.240
know what would be the right word for this, but limitation, judgment, expectations,

559
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:27.480
put them in like, dispose of them, get rid of them,

560
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:32.119
because those are the three that will stop you from progressing.

561
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.720
It's not fair to say, oh, I'm going to know

562
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:39.039
this song in three months, and give yourself that limitation,

563
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.519
you know, when you sit and you practice. I've heard

564
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:47.119
and I do this too. Go in with a childlike mine, like,

565
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.079
don't expect yourself, like be open to the magic of

566
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.640
what you can create because being a musician, as I

567
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:59.119
tell my young students, you're also a magician because the

568
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:03.039
more you connect with the instrument, you'll be amazed at

569
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:04.640
what you're able to create.

570
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.920
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I'm definitely trademarking the term musician.

571
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:13.440
And uh no, you didn't say it, but you would

572
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.199
have owed me a quarter if you did. But you're

573
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.360
absolutely right, and there is there is a great balance

574
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.360
between goal setting because that is important, you know, and

575
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.000
you say, I'm going to get this done in three weeks.

576
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.679
But if you don't, then why didn't you? So maybe

577
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.760
that was an unrealistic expectation. Maybe you understand you thought

578
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.039
you underestimated the challenge of it, or you just didn't

579
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.239
apply yourself or things came up. So I think again,

580
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.800
extending that grace. You know, Okay, here's here's my goal.

581
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:49.920
I didn't achieve it. Why didn't I achieve it? Okay,

582
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.920
then let's adjust it, and then let's start to build

583
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.280
realistic goals that will that will push us in a

584
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:03.000
positive way, but noth you know, make us feel bad about,

585
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.599
you know, what we're doing. We always just want to

586
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:10.039
try to stay as positive as possible because practicing and

587
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:15.159
self improvement, whether it's physical you know, like physical exercise

588
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.119
or mental well being or anything, it requires work and effort.

589
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.480
So you want to try to make there's no getting

590
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.280
your own deck, you know, so you want to just

591
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.760
make it as joyful or as pleasant of an experience

592
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:29.800
as possible.

593
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.920
Absolutely, absolutely, And on that note, and we're getting close

594
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:40.000
to our closing up for today. But I've recently used

595
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.480
this with my older students and I said, okay, like

596
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.960
give me an idea, like what what recently had to

597
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:48.159
be fixed in your house. And they'll say, okay, the shower. Okay,

598
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.400
So you hire some people that come in, they say,

599
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.519
all right, yeah, my taking it six weeks to get

600
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.840
it done, But then it ends up taking two months

601
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:59.199
because you just stuff, stuff comes up, or stuff is

602
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.800
realized or or you know, parts need to be ordered.

603
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:06.239
So look at like practicing music as if like you're

604
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:10.159
working on parts that need to be fixed and that's

605
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.119
kind of like the practicing of it and not it

606
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.639
doesn't always have to be a performance. The fun is

607
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:17.679
is the practice.

608
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:20.039
Well, if you can, if you can do that, like

609
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.320
if you can, if you can make practicing fun, if

610
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:28.039
you can you know, joyfully struggle. You know all I've

611
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:32.039
played this twelve times. I have to play it twenty

612
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:34.599
thousand more. You know what I mean. But if you

613
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.000
can be joyful about it. And again, a lot of

614
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.480
it has to do with faith that if I put

615
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.199
in this time, it will it will happen for me.

616
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.400
And I think that if you again, I just wish

617
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:48.000
we had a time machine. And that's why I'm sure

618
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:51.199
you do this with your students. You know, they say

619
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.519
this is kicking my butt, I'm motivated, and you go, yeah,

620
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.440
but this other thing kicked your butt and you achieved it,

621
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.559
so you you already know how to be successful at this.

622
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.039
This is just your new challenge. And so you know,

623
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.280
if you fix the shower at eight weeks it took

624
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.760
eight weeks, If it took four, great, all right, we're

625
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.320
at a schedule. But you know it takes what it

626
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.840
takes and just let it happen.

627
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.039
Awesome, awesome, Well, thank you so much, Christopher for being

628
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:26.519
on our show today. Christopher Maloney music educator on Facebook

629
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:30.480
and we can also find you on YouTube and practice

630
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.599
Warriors And in closing you mentioned it. You brought it

631
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:39.519
up behind the after studio with mister Lipton. One of

632
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.960
the questions that I always loved was when you get

633
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.599
to the pearly gates at the end of your life,

634
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.159
what would what would what would you say?

635
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:52.519
What would I say? Well? What would I say? Or

636
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.199
what do I think he's going to say to me?

637
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.639
Well? Well, okay, what what do you want to go with?

638
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.119
I'm good with what you want to go with? What

639
00:37:59.159 --> 00:37:59.920
do you think he would say to you?

640
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.559
I would hope that I would be told what is

641
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.840
it like? Five words? Right? I think it would be

642
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:10.679
you did it right? Kid?

643
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:11.599
Nice?

644
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:12.400
Right?

645
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.159
Kid? Yeah, I think that would be I think that'd

646
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:16.559
be good. I'd be happy with that.

647
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:20.199
Okay, that's great. Well, Christopher, thank you so much for

648
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.440
being on our show today. I'd love to have you

649
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.360
back another time. There's so much more that we could

650
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.239
share and inspire our audience with when it comes to

651
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:34.119
music and education, and in the meantime, be safe, be well,

652
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:35.920
and rock on.

653
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.559
That sounds great, Lisa, this was awesome and of course

654
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:40.920
it's always great to see you, so thanks so much

655
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.960
for having me on, and I hope hope the listeners

656
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:46.320
enjoyed it as well. I'll look look forward to hearing

657
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:47.119
your play too.

658
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.280
Thank you, thank you. So we'll sit back and enjoy

659
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.960
for my audiences. Whether you're watching TV or listening. If

660
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.119
you're driving, do not close your eyes. But if you're

661
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.559
in a space and a place at home or wherever,

662
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.559
in a place where it's safe and you can relax,

663
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:07.400
close your eyes. It's a Monday evening here in Florida,

664
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:11.079
it's a later Monday evening in Portugal, and wherever you

665
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.239
are in the world, doesn't really matter what time of

666
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.840
day it is. Just relax and I'm going to play

667
00:39:17.840 --> 00:41:47.480
a little bit for you all. M If you're just

668
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.440
logging on, we have a few minutes left. I am

669
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.360
composing in the moment. They called me the instinct composer

670
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:59.119
thanks to Gary frost Uh and I am playing energy

671
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.760
that I feel and wherever I go and I get

672
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:03.599
to do this, I get to pick up energy that

673
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.280
I feel in the room, and so it's never the

674
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.199
same and that's kind of cool. Well, I hope you

675
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:14.400
tune in next week to find out who our guests

676
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:20.119
will be. I'm not telling, but today I've had an

677
00:42:20.159 --> 00:43:41.480
amazing guests, mister Christopher Maloney ugure.

678
00:43:48.480 --> 00:44:14.199
But thank you, thank you, thank you nice, thank you, and.

679
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.960
Thank you again Christopher for being here. Any last minute

680
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:18.920
words you'd like to share with our listeners.

681
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:21.239
I think that was pretty balding of you to sit

682
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:26.119
there and improvise live on the spot. That is for

683
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.599
those viewers there, that is not for the faint of heart,

684
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:33.679
sit there and literally spontaneously compose, and that was great.

685
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:35.440
I was actually going to ask you if that was

686
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:38.519
because I know you do. You do this a lot live.

687
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:39.400
Uh.

688
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.039
I was gonna ask you, like, those are really cool

689
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.079
chords you had going on there, so I was wondering

690
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.239
if it was a prepared piece. So so kudos to you.

691
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.960
As far as last minute things, I don't know. I

692
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.719
think the most important thing for your for your listeners

693
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:57.760
is you know anyone can can make music, and anyone

694
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.280
can make music hard of their lives. You don't need tailing,

695
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:03.639
you don't need any special skills, you don't need a

696
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.559
magic formula. If there was a potion, I would have

697
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.760
made it I would have had it take a lot

698
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.880
of money. So uh, you know, it's just just have

699
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.639
the desire to do it, find a good teacher like Lisa,

700
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:23.159
and just move move forward. Anyone can do it.

701
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.440
Yes, thank you, thank you, so true true. And to

702
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:31.639
answer your question, I compose in the moment. Like I said,

703
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:34.559
Gary Frost caused me the instat composer, So I just

704
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.519
kind of go into that zone and I play. I

705
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:41.039
play what I feel and and the more I do

706
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.159
it I could. I played for like three years straight.

707
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.920
I was playing for audiences around the world, and it

708
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:50.360
just goes where it goes.

709
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:54.519
Well, I will I will now publicly profess my love

710
00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:00.239
for Gary Frost is a true bit about town. And uh,

711
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.719
it doesn't surprise me. He gave me, he gave you

712
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.920
such a clever moniker as the as as that.

713
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.960
So well done, well, thank you, and he worked with you,

714
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.360
and so he's a branch from your tree, a fallen branch,

715
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:19.679
great guy, Yes, yes he is so well. Thanks again, Christopher.

716
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.960
We're just about out of time for real, and uh

717
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:25.239
and I will see you on the other side, but

718
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:36.880
we're not there yet. But yeah, yeah, no, we've got it.